TGP vs MGP traffic...... Test results - GoFuckYourself.com

UltraSonic · 10-11-2005, 06:25 PM

We where wondering if there would be a big quality difference between TGP and MGP traffic so we came up with a test, here is what we did:

First we setup a campaign (link tracker) for all our TGP and MGP galleries to see which one gave wich signup and ratio. We also added a counter to each gallery (different counter for each gallery) to see what amount of traffic each gallery would get.

We did some calculating so that we submitted our TGP galleries to TGPs wich had a total amount of traffic about the same as the MGPs where we submitted our MGP galleries to.

We made 1 gallery a day for each, submitted 6 days a week for 4 weeks, mostly partner accounts.

We stopped counting signups and ratios (for this test) when both MGP and TGP galleries had recieved about the same amount of traffic total.

We use niche based galleries and submit them ONLY to that category, for both. We used 16 thumbs for TGP and 3 20 sec clips AVI format for MGP.

Used same niche for both: female ejaculation (squirting) and used a PIC based paysite for my TGP galleries and a movie based paysite for my MGP galleries although this doesn't mean that both paysites had pics and movies, just a mather of tour layout.

Here are the numbers:

MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups.
TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups.
Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks.

Clickthruw gallery - paysite had a difference of 1.27% in the favour of MGP traffic.

DamageX · 10-11-2005, 06:28 PM

Not bad. With the low bandwidth prices these days, I'd say that's a definite advantage for movie galleries. Provided all those signups were each worth the same.

sonofsam · 10-11-2005, 06:28 PM

thanks for sharing that info

Jer · 10-11-2005, 06:28 PM

Nice test, thanks for sharing it!

nofx · 10-11-2005, 06:42 PM

TGP traffic converts great on all the new tours we have at AMC

Sosa · 10-11-2005, 06:53 PM

good info, I have done alot better with MGP galleries

KCat · 10-11-2005, 06:57 PM

Excellent test! Thanks for sharing your results. I tend to get more traffic to photo galleries, so always found the results tough to compare.

Apollo · 10-11-2005, 06:59 PM

Nice comparison ...thanks for providing that for us

jollyperv · 10-11-2005, 07:09 PM

Let's see the bandwidth stats now.

the Shemp · 10-11-2005, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

We where wondering if there would be a big quality difference between TGP and MGP traffic so we came up with a test, here is what we did:

First we setup a campaign (link tracker) for all our TGP and MGP galleries to see which one gave wich signup and ratio. We also added a counter to each gallery (different counter for each gallery) to see what amount of traffic each gallery would get.

We did some calculating so that we submitted our TGP galleries to TGPs wich had a total amount of traffic about the same as the MGPs where we submitted our MGP galleries to.

We made 1 gallery a day for each, submitted 6 days a week for 4 weeks, mostly partner accounts.

We stopped counting signups and ratios (for this test) when both MGP and TGP galleries had recieved about the same amount of traffic total.

We use niche based galleries and submit them ONLY to that category, for both. We used 16 thumbs for TGP and 3 20 sec clips AVI format for MGP.

Used same niche for both: female ejaculation (squirting) and used a PIC based paysite for my TGP galleries and a movie based paysite for my MGP galleries although this doesn't mean that both paysites had pics and movies, just a mather of tour layout.

Here are the numbers:

MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups.
TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups.
Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks.

Clickthruw gallery - paysite had a difference of 1.27% in the favour of MGP traffic.

did you submit to sites that are mixed TGP/MPG ?

UltraSonic · 10-11-2005, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp

did you submit to sites that are mixed TGP/MPG ?

No, MGP only movies and TGP only pics.

AmateurFlix · 10-11-2005, 08:44 PM

interesting results

was this using different paysites or just different tours on the same paysite?

the Shemp · 10-11-2005, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

No, MGP only movies and TGP only pics.

thanks for the info..

DamageX · 10-11-2005, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

interesting results

was this using different paysites or just different tours on the same paysite?

Good question!

Series · 10-11-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

We stopped counting signups and ratios (for this test) when both MGP and TGP galleries had recieved about the same amount of traffic total.

How much difference in time between the two?

High Quality · 10-11-2005, 10:08 PM

Difference is 11 signups, or lets say, $350. BW bill = $500 more.

Argoz · 10-11-2005, 10:14 PM

Nice test, thanks for sharing it!

.:R I O:. · 10-11-2005, 10:24 PM

cool,sounds interesting

circlekhabib · 10-11-2005, 10:30 PM

"MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups.
TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups.
Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks."

I'd hate to see the ratios from first page click.
they had to of sucked really bad

Series · 10-11-2005, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by circlekhabib

"MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups.
TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups.
Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks."

I'd hate to see the ratios from first page click.
they had to of sucked really bad

hhmm... good point... that doesn't sound right :?

wargames · 10-11-2005, 10:47 PM

Very cool and intresting test you ran. Thanks for sharing UltraSonic

asl · 10-11-2005, 11:08 PM

Thanks for the results

stevo · 10-11-2005, 11:15 PM

Thats good considering most movie gallery posts dont accept avi files...

studiocritic · 10-11-2005, 11:29 PM

We do a lot of complex split testing with our mainstream marketing, and from what I've learned there, I have a few constructive questions. Don't mistake this as criticism, thats a lot of great info, and thanks for sharing.

1) What were first page ratios? 2nd page ratios are skewed on different traffic sources.
2) How much time elapsed between the TGP test and the MGP test, or were these simultaneously done?
2a) If they were simultaneously done, you couldn't have used the same positions on the TGPs, so these results are somewhat skewed. How did you compensate for this?
3) Did you use different paysites for the MGP and the TGP traffic? Different tours? Unfortunately, this would render most of the test unusable. As we all know, tiny changes in similar tours can wildly alter conversion ratios.

Finally, in conclusion - 24 days of data may seem like a lot, but it's really not all that much. So I'd recommend against anyone making "policy" decisions based on this stuff. Nice work, though.. it's exciting to see other people applying common sense and math to adult!

-Mike

hjnet · 10-11-2005, 11:45 PM

Comparing MGP and TGP Galleries is rather complex,

-MGP galleries tend to get more traffic from TGP/MGP hybrids, cause some of their surfers rather enjoy Movies than Pictures.

-MGP galleries tend to get listed a bit more often on TGP/MGP hybrids, cause there are less MGP Gallery submitters than TGP Gallery submitters.

-But MGP Galleries eat more Bandwidth

-And MGP Galleries are a bit more risky for "beginners" cause you'd have to start with a bigger upfront investment

-On the other side TGP Galleries can be submitted at more places, cause there are more TGPs than MGPs.

-TGP Galleries are a bit easier to SEO

So in the end it depends on so many factors that almost everybody would get different results, I personally try to do both

Pornopat · 10-12-2005, 12:29 AM

"avi for mpeg."
Do you mean the movies were avi or mpeg?

jollyperv · 10-12-2005, 12:36 AM

Before any of you noobs go and try to jump into the MGP game, better do some research...you will lose your fucking ASS on bandwidth, I guarantee it.

SleazyDream · 10-12-2005, 12:47 AM

you sir, are a moron

margarita · 10-12-2005, 01:10 AM

Nice test but there is no general comparison between tgp and mgp. Try to change niche to softcore and you'll see

elitetec · 10-12-2005, 01:15 AM

Movie galleries i switch to

jollyperv · 10-12-2005, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream

you sir, are a moron

Were you addressing me?

Fuckin Bill · 10-12-2005, 03:27 AM

This needs to be done comparing cost to profit though. Conversions don't mean a thing if it isn't cutting a profit over the extra bandwidth usage that movies bring. It's good stuff to know...but doesn't tell the money side of the story.

Rui · 10-12-2005, 03:53 AM

That actualy makes sense and is similar to the rest we see

Thanks for sharing the test tho

This sort of post are rare @ GFY nowadays

UltraSonic · 10-12-2005, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by studiocritic

We do a lot of complex split testing with our mainstream marketing, and from what I've learned there, I have a few constructive questions. Don't mistake this as criticism, thats a lot of great info, and thanks for sharing.

1) What were first page ratios? 2nd page ratios are skewed on different traffic sources.
2) How much time elapsed between the TGP test and the MGP test, or were these simultaneously done?
2a) If they were simultaneously done, you couldn't have used the same positions on the TGPs, so these results are somewhat skewed. How did you compensate for this?
3) Did you use different paysites for the MGP and the TGP traffic? Different tours? Unfortunately, this would render most of the test unusable. As we all know, tiny changes in similar tours can wildly alter conversion ratios.

Finally, in conclusion - 24 days of data may seem like a lot, but it's really not all that much. So I'd recommend against anyone making "policy" decisions based on this stuff. Nice work, though.. it's exciting to see other people applying common sense and math to adult!

-Mike

Howdy Mike,

We always use our 2nd page views as ratios. The test ended for MGP about 2 weeks prior for TGP. We used 1 paysite but the tour for TGP was thumb based and for MGP was movie based.

Hope this answeres some of your questions.

solonline · 10-12-2005, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

We where wondering if there would be a big quality difference between TGP and MGP traffic so we came up with a test, here is what we did:

First we setup a campaign (link tracker) for all our TGP and MGP galleries to see which one gave wich signup and ratio. We also added a counter to each gallery (different counter for each gallery) to see what amount of traffic each gallery would get.

We did some calculating so that we submitted our TGP galleries to TGPs wich had a total amount of traffic about the same as the MGPs where we submitted our MGP galleries to.

We made 1 gallery a day for each, submitted 6 days a week for 4 weeks, mostly partner accounts.

We stopped counting signups and ratios (for this test) when both MGP and TGP galleries had recieved about the same amount of traffic total.

We use niche based galleries and submit them ONLY to that category, for both. We used 16 thumbs for TGP and 3 20 sec clips AVI format for MGP.

Used same niche for both: female ejaculation (squirting) and used a PIC based paysite for my TGP galleries and a movie based paysite for my MGP galleries although this doesn't mean that both paysites had pics and movies, just a mather of tour layout.

Here are the numbers:

MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups.
TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups.
Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks.

Clickthruw gallery - paysite had a difference of 1.27% in the favour of MGP traffic.

Good post

I agree with your results, we tend to get better conversions with Movies galls.

dtoolbox · 10-12-2005, 06:56 AM

i just got posted in thehun last day with this mgp gallery

Creampie Models

Creampie Models 0 0 0 999 930 0:930 35 0:35
Total 0 0 0 1059 983 0:983 43 0:43

930 uniques w/o any single signup

solonline · 10-12-2005, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtoolbox

i just got posted in thehun last day with this mgp gallery

Creampie Models

Creampie Models 0 0 0 999 930 0:930 35 0:35
Total 0 0 0 1059 983 0:983 43 0:43

930 uniques w/o any single signup

We had a few gallerys on the hun approved a few months back.
Loads of traffic, but conversions were crap. Dont know what its like for other markets.. but didnt work for us

dylan4U · 10-12-2005, 07:14 AM

more stuff like this. I like it. Thank you guys

bigdog · 10-12-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtoolbox

i just got posted in thehun last day with this mgp gallery

Creampie Models

Creampie Models 0 0 0 999 930 0:930 35 0:35
Total 0 0 0 1059 983 0:983 43 0:43

930 uniques w/o any single signup

only 930 unquies from a hun gallery seems low

UltraSonic · 10-12-2005, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtoolbox

i just got posted in thehun last day with this mgp gallery

Creampie Models

Creampie Models 0 0 0 999 930 0:930 35 0:35
Total 0 0 0 1059 983 0:983 43 0:43

930 uniques w/o any single signup

I hope those where 930 uniques to the join page else something must have been very wrong.

Rinaldo · 10-12-2005, 07:39 AM

Excellent post

Please contact me Via ICQ or email.

circlekhabib · 10-12-2005, 07:48 AM

what the first page results will show is the amount
of traffic not making it to the second page
either because the page sucks or is being lost
to an entrance console (if there is one) or
a tracking "glitch".

no offense but based on averages Ive seen with
many tours over many years these ratios suck really bad.
easy enough to do the math.

also the person who posted concerning the money factor
makes the only other point that really matters in this thread.
I'm gonna guess the profit margins from mgp are not so hot.

Brad Mitchell · 10-12-2005, 07:51 AM

Very nice of you to share the information with everyone

Cheers

Brad

circlekhabib · 10-12-2005, 07:52 AM

the person with the hun gallery example,
I cannot read your sales pitch on top.
very tiny on my screen and not much esle
there to entice me outside of the movies.

surfers do read and surely you rather they read
your blurb and goto the paysite tour without
clicking your movies first. right?

I see why the clicks were so low.
no offense but the gallery is just another free porn
free loader extravaganza

DamageX · 10-12-2005, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigdog

only 930 unquies from a hun gallery seems low

Quote:

Originally Posted by UltraSonic

I hope those where 930 uniques to the join page else something must have been very wrong.

You didn't see his gallery?

jayeff · 10-12-2005, 08:00 AM

Well done for attempting to analyze this kind of data, but the results are as likely to be misleading as helpful.

First because although your galleries handled what at first glance seems like a decent amount of traffic, it is still highly likely that if you ran a similar test again, you might see a different picture. Positive results (in this case sales) are not distributed evenly, they cluster together and particularly when there are relatively so few positive results, you could get a very different results in subsequent tests.

But even were the results reliable, you are assuming that you have tested the difference between TGPs and MGPs, when that is not the case. At best you have actually tested the performance of the traffic from specific TGP's and MGP's and even saying that ignores the fact that you also sent the traffic to two different sites and (presumably) used different gallery layouts. Nor can you ignore differences between the content displayed on your galleries, not only that some of it was still images and some video clips.

Last but not least, it is entirely possible, even likely, that your results were skewed by your choice of niche. Squirting is if you like, a "dynamic" topic, and as such, lends itself to being displayed in movie form. Had you compared squirting movies against stills from a niche in which a clear view of the model herself was the primary interest, again you might have seen very different results.

Nicky · 10-12-2005, 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dtoolbox

i just got posted in thehun last day with this mgp gallery

Creampie Models

Creampie Models 0 0 0 999 930 0:930 35 0:35
Total 0 0 0 1059 983 0:983 43 0:43

930 uniques w/o any single signup

So far this year I havent had a Hun listing tha hasnt pulled 5+ sales....

10-11-2005, 06:25 PM	#1
UltraSonic Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: UltraVirtuality Posts: 1,728	TGP vs MGP traffic...... Test results We where wondering if there would be a big quality difference between TGP and MGP traffic so we came up with a test, here is what we did: First we setup a campaign (link tracker) for all our TGP and MGP galleries to see which one gave wich signup and ratio. We also added a counter to each gallery (different counter for each gallery) to see what amount of traffic each gallery would get. We did some calculating so that we submitted our TGP galleries to TGPs wich had a total amount of traffic about the same as the MGPs where we submitted our MGP galleries to. We made 1 gallery a day for each, submitted 6 days a week for 4 weeks, mostly partner accounts. We stopped counting signups and ratios (for this test) when both MGP and TGP galleries had recieved about the same amount of traffic total. We use niche based galleries and submit them ONLY to that category, for both. We used 16 thumbs for TGP and 3 20 sec clips AVI format for MGP. Used same niche for both: female ejaculation (squirting) and used a PIC based paysite for my TGP galleries and a movie based paysite for my MGP galleries although this doesn't mean that both paysites had pics and movies, just a mather of tour layout. Here are the numbers: MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups. TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups. Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks. Clickthruw gallery - paysite had a difference of 1.27% in the favour of MGP traffic. __________________ Your Blend, Your Product

10-11-2005, 06:28 PM	#2
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Not bad. With the low bandwidth prices these days, I'd say that's a definite advantage for movie galleries. Provided all those signups were each worth the same. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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Sosa In Tushy Land Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Nebraska Posts: 40,149	good info, I have done alot better with MGP galleries

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10-11-2005, 08:44 PM	#12
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10-11-2005, 10:30 PM	#19
circlekhabib Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 490	"MGP ratio: 1:672 counted 35 signups. TGP ratio: 1:912 counted 24 signups. Ratio taken from second page view, unique clicks." I'd hate to see the ratios from first page click. they had to of sucked really bad

10-11-2005, 10:47 PM	#21
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10-11-2005, 11:15 PM	#23
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10-11-2005, 11:29 PM	#24
studiocritic Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,442	We do a lot of complex split testing with our mainstream marketing, and from what I've learned there, I have a few constructive questions. Don't mistake this as criticism, thats a lot of great info, and thanks for sharing. 1) What were first page ratios? 2nd page ratios are skewed on different traffic sources. 2) How much time elapsed between the TGP test and the MGP test, or were these simultaneously done? 2a) If they were simultaneously done, you couldn't have used the same positions on the TGPs, so these results are somewhat skewed. How did you compensate for this? 3) Did you use different paysites for the MGP and the TGP traffic? Different tours? Unfortunately, this would render most of the test unusable. As we all know, tiny changes in similar tours can wildly alter conversion ratios. Finally, in conclusion - 24 days of data may seem like a lot, but it's really not all that much. So I'd recommend against anyone making "policy" decisions based on this stuff. Nice work, though.. it's exciting to see other people applying common sense and math to adult! -Mike

10-11-2005, 11:45 PM	#25
hjnet Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: European Union Posts: 3,815	Comparing MGP and TGP Galleries is rather complex, -MGP galleries tend to get more traffic from TGP/MGP hybrids, cause some of their surfers rather enjoy Movies than Pictures. -MGP galleries tend to get listed a bit more often on TGP/MGP hybrids, cause there are less MGP Gallery submitters than TGP Gallery submitters. -But MGP Galleries eat more Bandwidth -And MGP Galleries are a bit more risky for "beginners" cause you'd have to start with a bigger upfront investment -On the other side TGP Galleries can be submitted at more places, cause there are more TGPs than MGPs. -TGP Galleries are a bit easier to SEO So in the end it depends on so many factors that almost everybody would get different results, I personally try to do both

10-12-2005, 12:29 AM	#26
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10-12-2005, 12:36 AM	#27
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10-12-2005, 03:27 AM	#32
Fuckin Bill Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,020	This needs to be done comparing cost to profit though. Conversions don't mean a thing if it isn't cutting a profit over the extra bandwidth usage that movies bring. It's good stuff to know...but doesn't tell the money side of the story.

10-12-2005, 03:53 AM	#33
Rui web Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: On icq: 85-483-060 Posts: 9,533	That actualy makes sense and is similar to the rest we see Thanks for sharing the test tho This sort of post are rare @ GFY nowadays

10-12-2005, 06:56 AM	#36
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10-12-2005, 07:39 AM	#41
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10-12-2005, 07:48 AM	#42
circlekhabib Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 490	what the first page results will show is the amount of traffic not making it to the second page either because the page sucks or is being lost to an entrance console (if there is one) or a tracking "glitch". no offense but based on averages Ive seen with many tours over many years these ratios suck really bad. easy enough to do the math. also the person who posted concerning the money factor makes the only other point that really matters in this thread. I'm gonna guess the profit margins from mgp are not so hot.

10-12-2005, 07:51 AM	#43
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10-12-2005, 07:52 AM	#44
circlekhabib Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 490	the person with the hun gallery example, I cannot read your sales pitch on top. very tiny on my screen and not much esle there to entice me outside of the movies. surfers do read and surely you rather they read your blurb and goto the paysite tour without clicking your movies first. right? I see why the clicks were so low. no offense but the gallery is just another free porn free loader extravaganza

10-12-2005, 08:00 AM	#46
jayeff Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 2,944	Well done for attempting to analyze this kind of data, but the results are as likely to be misleading as helpful. First because although your galleries handled what at first glance seems like a decent amount of traffic, it is still highly likely that if you ran a similar test again, you might see a different picture. Positive results (in this case sales) are not distributed evenly, they cluster together and particularly when there are relatively so few positive results, you could get a very different results in subsequent tests. But even were the results reliable, you are assuming that you have tested the difference between TGPs and MGPs, when that is not the case. At best you have actually tested the performance of the traffic from specific TGP's and MGP's and even saying that ignores the fact that you also sent the traffic to two different sites and (presumably) used different gallery layouts. Nor can you ignore differences between the content displayed on your galleries, not only that some of it was still images and some video clips. Last but not least, it is entirely possible, even likely, that your results were skewed by your choice of niche. Squirting is if you like, a "dynamic" topic, and as such, lends itself to being displayed in movie form. Had you compared squirting movies against stills from a niche in which a clear view of the model herself was the primary interest, again you might have seen very different results.