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Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:06 PM

This is the second time I'm going to try to pull this. The first one was a mess, the girl was too unstable and I dont even want to talk about it.

Now this girl is a lot smarter and older, and she really wants this to happen. The only problem is she wont show her face, this is Portugal and noone ever went that far. The good news is we dont have any competition. So I'll make even without showing her face, she will wear a mask all the time.

I dont want to make any noob mistakes, so I'll ask you a few questions.

I'm planning to use CC Bill Europe. I dont find anything about it on the website, but I think I have to pay $1500 to use Visa, right? Is that a one time payment? And can I use it on multiple sites after I pay once?

Can anyone show me a template for the contract between webmasters and models on single girl sites? I want to have at least a 2 year guarantee that the site will be online and updated, even if she wants to shut it down.

Is there anything else that I should be worried about? Any help is welcome.

AaronM · 10-10-2005, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

The only problem is she wont show her face,

I dont want to make any noob mistakes

Too late.

eamedia · 10-10-2005, 12:10 PM

your lawyer should have some answers for you...

fitzmulti · 10-10-2005, 12:14 PM

[QUOTE=Tuga]
I dont want to make any noob mistakes, is there anything else that I should be worried about? The only problem is she wont show her face, she will wear a mask all the time.QUOTE]

Save your $...get a girl who will show her face.

Manowar · 10-10-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Too late.

Agreed

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM

Too late.

Try to understand something. This is Portugal. The portuguese adult paysite market is non existant. There's some poorly translated sites, some portuguese sites with old foreign content, and that's it.

This will be the first really portuguese single girl with a paysite. And I have a lot of portuguese adult traffic and know 90% of the portuguese webmasters.

So try to keep that in mind when giving advice.

I probably wont bother making an english version of the site because of the face thing, but this is another market. And I want to turn that flaw into a fetish thing, not sure if I can do it well, but it's worth a try.

pornguy · 10-10-2005, 12:16 PM

Do your self a favor, and take the advice that the people give here. It is not a personal attack.

Get an attorney first. he will help with all of the legal end. Then find another model. and then call CCBILL, and ask them your questions.

xNetworx · 10-10-2005, 12:17 PM

Find a girl that will show her face... what the hell are you going to name the site like www.torso18.com or www.neckdownnancy.com? Not trying to be an ass, but the no face idea is wack!

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by fitzmulti

Save your $...get a girl who will show her face.

That is a nice dream, but impossible in Portugal. If I could find such a girl, she would be but ugly. There is noone doing a really portuguese porn site, so showing her body is better than showing nothing. And she will do a lot of board posting, chat, and webcam. This is old news for all of you on GFY, but it's something the portuguese web as never seen.

xNetworx · 10-10-2005, 12:21 PM

Why don't you buy exclusive content of a model that will show her face and just say she is in Portugal.

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy

Do your self a favor, and take the advice that the people give here. It is not a personal attack.

Get an attorney first. he will help with all of the legal end. Then find another model. and then call CCBILL, and ask them your questions.

I want advice, I asked for it, so I can take it. But I dont want you too tell me not to do it, that is not an option

You may know a lot more than me about paysites, but you know nothing about portuguese surfers and models, so I'm trying to give you that info.

If you lived in a land where there are no single girl sites, and you had the chance to make the first one with a flaw, would you forget about it or try to make the best out of it?

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pimpporn

Why don't you buy exclusive content of a model that will show her face and just say she is in Portugal.

Ok that's a good question. I actually made something like that once. But I think nothing can replace an actual live girl that will post on sex boards, chat with members, etc, etc... I can see that hiding the face is a big problem, but I can also see the big advantage of having the only girl with a paysite in my country.

FelixFlow · 10-10-2005, 12:26 PM

you're putting this site on the web, not opening it up on main avenue in your town:

THE ENTIRE WORLD'S PAYSITES ARE YOUR COMPETITION

stop saying you will have nobody competing against you

get a model that will show her face, from spain, and say she's from portugal

otherswise, this will be your second mistake

FelixFlow · 10-10-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

but I can also see the big advantage of having the only girl with a paysite in my country.

get your head out of your ass, there is no advantage...you want to make a girl a "star" when she wants to remain anonymous !!!

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlow

you're putting this site on the web, not opening it up on main avenue in your town:

THE ENTIRE WORLD'S PAYSITES ARE YOUR COMPETITION

stop saying you will have nobody competing against you

get a model that will show her face, from spain, and say she's from portugal

otherswise, this will be your second mistake

Portuguese people wont join foreign adult paysites, sorry. I do know my traffic, I can make more sales in a month with a shitty genuine portuguese porn site, than any foreign mega-site can do. Go figure.

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FelixFlow

get your head out of your ass, there is no advantage...you want to make a girl a "star" when she wants to remain anonymous !!!

The biggest blog in Portugal that was made into a book, is anonymous.

Keyra Augustina has the most famous ass in the world, and I cant even remember if I ever saw her face.

I know it's not good to have to hide her face, but I also know it will sell anyway. I asked for advice as a noob in paysite managing, but I am not a noob webmaster and I know my country and my traffic better than anyone, so spare me the attitude.

mkx · 10-10-2005, 12:40 PM

I have a portuguese model, she shows a lot more than her face

adonthenet · 10-10-2005, 12:45 PM

Tuga I can just wish you lots of luck...
and the 1500$ for ccbill as far as i know can be for multiple sites...

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mkx

I have a portuguese model, she shows a lot more than her face

Interesting, does she live in Portugal? Is she on a site marketed to portuguese people?

Doctor Dre · 10-10-2005, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

Try to understand something. This is Portugal. The portuguese adult paysite market is non existant. There's some poorly translated sites, some portuguese sites with old foreign content, and that's it.

This will be the first really portuguese single girl with a paysite. And I have a lot of portuguese adult traffic and know 90% of the portuguese webmasters.

So try to keep that in mind when giving advice.

I probably wont bother making an english version of the site because of the face thing, but this is another market. And I want to turn that flaw into a fetish thing, not sure if I can do it well, but it's worth a try.

Why are you asking for advice on a board if you take it as attacks ?

Well let me attack you now : You will never succeed with a girl that won't show her face. Move on to the next model and stop beeing so stubborn. Portugese people can go on american paysites too you know ...

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:47 PM

Even on portuguese webcam sites, 90% of the models are brasilian.

Even on portuguese strip clubs, 90% of the girls are brasilian or from eastern countries ehehe, and that's a restricted environment, not the world wide web where uncle joe can see them.

Doctor Dre · 10-10-2005, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuga

The biggest blog in Portugal that was made into a book, is anonymous.

Keyra Augustina has the most famous ass in the world, and I cant even remember if I ever saw her face.

I know it's not good to have to hide her face, but I also know it will sell anyway. I asked for advice as a noob in paysite managing, but I am not a noob webmaster and I know my country and my traffic better than anyone, so spare me the attitude.

Tuga you might consider moving to america, finding a site that speaks portugese and do a single girl site with her ... that'd be a lot smarter.

Keyra Augustina ?!? Who the hell is she ?

Doctor Dre · 10-10-2005, 12:49 PM

I gotta agree, she has a nice rear end

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Why are you asking for advice on a board if you take it as attacks ?

Well let me attack you now : You will never succeed with a girl that won't show her face. Move on to the next model and stop beeing so stubborn. Portugese people can go on american paysites too you know ...

I said it before, I'll try to explain it again. Just because I'm asking for advice doesnt mean I'll take everything you throw at me as the way to go, nor that I dont have my own oppinion. And most of all, I wont drop it because the whole GFY doesnt think it can work.

I never asked, should I do it, will it sell? I already made up my mind about it, and I know it will sell better than Tawnee Stone. I know that because I promote Tawnee and all the others since 2001 and I now have the biggest portuguese sex board, and I still cant sell those sites. Anything made in Portugal sells better than the greatest american paysites. I make a lot of cash with the portuguese version of AFF, because there's portuguese people there. I can post some pretty ugly profiles of fat old women, and it sells! That I already know for sure.

Tuga · 10-10-2005, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

Tuga you might consider moving to america, finding a site that speaks portugese and do a single girl site with her ... that'd be a lot smarter.

Keyra Augustina ?!? Who the hell is she ?

Moving to America is not an option, if I move it has to be to a place better than where I am now

And you dont know Keyra? Who's the noob now?

deleteduser · 10-10-2005, 01:00 PM

People from Portugal might now have their own single girl paysites and probably no real portoguese paysites at all - but this is the internet. 90% of them will have a bangbus.com account.

10-10-2005, 12:06 PM	#1
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Starting a new single girl paysite This is the second time I'm going to try to pull this. The first one was a mess, the girl was too unstable and I dont even want to talk about it. Now this girl is a lot smarter and older, and she really wants this to happen. The only problem is she wont show her face, this is Portugal and noone ever went that far. The good news is we dont have any competition. So I'll make even without showing her face, she will wear a mask all the time. I dont want to make any noob mistakes, so I'll ask you a few questions. I'm planning to use CC Bill Europe. I dont find anything about it on the website, but I think I have to pay $1500 to use Visa, right? Is that a one time payment? And can I use it on multiple sites after I pay once? Can anyone show me a template for the contract between webmasters and models on single girl sites? I want to have at least a 2 year guarantee that the site will be online and updated, even if she wants to shut it down. Is there anything else that I should be worried about? Any help is welcome. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Find a girl that will show her face... what the hell are you going to name the site like www.torso18.com or www.neckdownnancy.com? Not trying to be an ass, but the no face idea is wack!

10-10-2005, 12:21 PM	#10
xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Why don't you buy exclusive content of a model that will show her face and just say she is in Portugal.

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mkx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 4,001	I have a portuguese model, she shows a lot more than her face

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adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	Tuga I can just wish you lots of luck... and the 1500$ for ccbill as far as i know can be for multiple sites...

10-10-2005, 12:47 PM	#21
Tuga Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Portugal Posts: 7,678	Even on portuguese webcam sites, 90% of the models are brasilian. Even on portuguese strip clubs, 90% of the girls are brasilian or from eastern countries ehehe, and that's a restricted environment, not the world wide web where uncle joe can see them. __________________ Go Fuck Yourself! ICQ 101411627

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deleteduser Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 2,218	People from Portugal might now have their own single girl paysites and probably no real portoguese paysites at all - but this is the internet. 90% of them will have a bangbus.com account. __________________ ICQ #58981463 Promote my PornAccess Site: 2Chicks1Dick