Big red...care to share pics of the perfect boobs??????

What's the difference between a mom with three kids and a MILF?

Liposuction!!!

Unless someone's features are grossly distorted then let looks be one of the things that makes us unique. I think women do it for themselves not only out of vanity but also to please those they want to please.

1st things 1st anyone that says they are doing it only for themselves is full of shit. you dont intend nor focus on the attention it will draw as you take it for granted. but havent you ever smiled when someone made you a compliment? there. we all feed on self esteem, some more, some less but still. now some girls are just born with defects and i can understand that. as for liposuccion, fake boobs, etc, that is just plain vicious. girls do it to get attention i dont care what you say. its the same reason why you wont leave the house without makeup in the mornings. (at this point some girl will claim that she does not use makeup so shes an exception GOOD FOR YOU!) call me mysogistic or however it is you write it loll but its a fact; girls are in constant competition. plus they have to disguise themselves in order to fool a man into supporting their lifestyles :upsidedow its allright though its not your fault, part of your brain's potential has to be saved for the reproductive function ;)

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Yeah, most of what you said is a crock. (not of silicone..but of shit)

Are you female?

Can't be...you are an idiot in your statement.

Some people may get them for attention...
Some people may get them for medical reasons (like breast reconstruction due to cancer)
But leave the people who make that decision and the reasons WHY they make that decision alone...it is theirs. To judge them off of it, or to make stupid male comments like what you did... is dumb.

You want to know how much of the male brain is dedicated to reproduction? The level of hormones in the male's body? And why was the porn industry created? To satisfy the needs of men.
Just lately it has been swinging more to satisfy the needs of women..and get more artistic in nature rather than animalistic...

So if we want to get bigger boobs or bigger butts or lips of whatever, and say we are doing it for ourselves (if we are telling the truth or not) leave it be. The fact that we care enough about ourselves to feel attractive...or even want to feel attractive to others, or even feel better about ourselves...is a healthy thing for the self esteem. Overdoing it, is NOT (as we all have stated).


Brain's potential for reproductive function, my flat azz...


Your statement was so sexest it makes me want to puke. Come into the 21st century, would you? :mad:

But I love you for expressing your opinion.
Don't get me wrong...

Group hug.

well i am pretty damn sure we are not talking about medical reasons here are we? im not. yes my statement is very sexist as i am. i believe most girls lack attention why would you disguise yourself with makeup every morning? so you can look better than you really are? way to go self esteem ;) i also generalize from a personnal experience of mine. one of my ex's had her boobs done while with me but was unconfortable dropping the top in the bed i then proceeded to conclude that if it wasnt for me, and it sure as shit werent for her since she already looked fuckin great, it was for other people. we all want attention on different levels, however females seem to base their whole lifestyles upon first impressions. i would say that over 60% of products that are female-targetted have to do with looks, and thats irrefutable. therefore we live in a democracy so except for a few dykes and a few ugly beeyatches, they all have seen the power that looks give to them, and therefore i understand WHY they would do it. i just find it down right vicious. im not saying you have bad intentions or anything, BUT i believe men are stronger in their commitments. yes it is sexist, it is a lots of things but most of all its true. anybody who denies that is biased and is judging from "exceptions" or "minorities". and i still love you too, lets group hug so i can feel your fake boobs bouncing on my well-trained pecs (see i work out i do it for my health but subconsciously i probably enjoy the look it gives me too...plus at least i earned it heheh)

Who puts on make-up every morning past the age of 18??? I don't have a single female friend who has time to waste on that shit. I remember getting up 30 minutes earlier than I had to back in high school so I could do my make-up, but by the time I hit college, way too many other priorities.

Now I put on make-up if I'm going out for a nice dinner or I'm doing a shoot. Otherwise, just way too busy.

As for plastic surgery, it is really none of anyone else's business. It must be nice to sit high on your throne & judge everyone else. That holier than thou attitude is so very attractive & not something money can buy! :thumbsup

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look there is no point in arguing this. the other girl mentionned that men have hormones and that porn is an industry made exclusively to fill the male need. now i can find exceptions, and plenty of them, but the truth of the matter is, most men are obsessed with sex, and most females are attention whores. im not saying each and every single one of you is. not each and every1 of you had surgery either. point being : quit living in denial

You can start a thread on GFY and your boob job will be paid for.

p.s. I don't think there is anythign wrong w/ it...in moderation.

KCat has a good point.

Attention whore? (geez.....)

And I earned my boobs as much as you earned your pecs. No man bought anything for me, and no man should have to. Just like women who wear hair weaves and extensions as well...when people ask if it's their hair...they say "Yeah it's mine.... I BOUGHT IT- even got the reciept..want to see?". Same principle.

What you say is true due to the sadness of the media and societies views on women and how we SHOULD act and SHOULD be. I am no dyke or femme (yet I would declare myself a feminist)...but I would defend a woman anyday over the statements of a sexist, silly over testorone filled man.
But I still love men. And sometimes, I agree, women can act dumb as well. So we are both in the same boat....yet.....

It's a choice with the plastic surgery thing. Let's leave it at that. Topic getting old. (yawn)

Now can we end this topic?

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im not saying its not yours, theres no need for the receipt. neither am i saying you dont have a right to surgery. what im saying is, anyone who does it does it for the looks. anyone who denies that must have issues lying to himself AND to others on a topic that is obviously all about looks. what im also saying is that women focus a lot more on their apparence than men. now you can still try and come up with individual cases but im stating facts. i do admit i am biased since i hang around pretty girls who are obviously more superficial than average. it does not change the fact that women have a hard time accepting themselves and therefore have a lot more to prove :)
ill be waiting on your reply

Sometimes insurance will pick it up. I was on one PS forum and a lady had her insurance pay for her rhinoplasty because her doctor diagnosed her as having a 'breathing problem caused by a nasal deformity' or something like that.

I paid for my surgery by working like mad for a few months and saving the money. Other people I've met online have gotten bank loans or even financed it through companies like Medicredit. On one forum, a woman went 28,000 in debt (via loans) to get everything she wanted done at once.

One thing I do advise is making sure that you have money for the surgery on hand, plus some extra money in case things don't turn out the way that you want. That way you can have it fixed right away instead of having to wait to get more money.

nothing wrong with plastic surgery. GOOD plastic surgeons are my heroes...

I didn't get my surgery because I was insecure. I just wanted to look better. Because I look better, I do feel better on the inside.

Nothing wrong with it. I would do it if I weren't such a damn chicken because of the anaesthesia and the pain. I did consider getting breast augmentation before but I never went through it.

About the putting makeup thing on, yea I'm 27 and I still put on makeup everyday and just about all my friends do too. I'm a bit high maintenace so it takes me around 30-40 min just to do my makeup and that's just for everyday life :helpme but there's nothing wrong with it if it makes you happy. I REFUSE to leave the house bare-faced, even for errands like buying groceries. I just always like to look my best because it's important to me and you never know who you are going to run into.

I admit if I get plastic surgery done, it wouldn't be just for me, it is for attention. Even though I'm not a porn model or anything like that, just a webmaster, I'm still pretty vain and into myself, but lots of people are so it's not like I'm the only one. Right now I have other plans with my money so i don't really want to waste it on plastic surgery, also I look pretty young and good, but if I ever get wrinkles or anything like that I might consider it. Also I would never get anything like that financed, I would pay for it at once, with my own money.... no sugar daddy for me...

I would make sure to research and get the best board-certified surgeons and make sure they don't have any malpractice suits or anything like that.

It is important to have a good head on your shoulders though, because some friends I know are weird, they are never happy with their looks no matter what,if they fix their boobs, they are going to be unhappy with their nose and then stomach... Some people are just never happy and I know surgeouns screen for that as well, so they don't get whack patients who come back and shoot them because they weren't happy with a nose job.

I do admit that if i do get surgery it it's all for looks. Yea I'm superficial and not afraid to admit it. I work hard for my own money, it's earned by hard work and i can choose to spend it on whatever i like, no one can tell me any different.

And about the competition thing, it's true, we do compete among ourselves. At least me and my friends do, we talk A LOT about who's hotter than who, and "hey that chick is gorgeous , I wish I looked like her" and all that other petty stuff...

A lot of it IS competition, but I'm not afraid to admit it though. Yea, I AM shallow and I DO compete. Most of my friends do too but it's not something we like to admit to others, we only talk about it among ourselves, it's something like an open secret. I know not ALL women are like this, some really don't care about looks. But me and the people I hang with DO, so I know that the
competition factor with other women does persuade some people to get surgery.

JMoney.... you said:

im not saying its not yours, theres no need for the receipt. neither am i saying you dont have a right to surgery. what im saying is, anyone who does it does it for the looks.
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That is the point of the surgery...to look and feel better about oneself...not denying that. -------

anyone who denies that must have issues lying to himself AND to others on a topic that is obviously all about looks. what im also saying is that women focus a lot more on their apparence than men. now you can still try and come up with individual cases but im stating facts.
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Yeah, we do. We HAVE to. Media...remember. I seldom wear makeup unless I am doing a shoot. I'm a makeup artist and to tell the truth, I put it on other people so much I tire of putting it on myself. So the makeup thing too, is depending on the chic. Phogirl won't leave the heezie without it, and I envy her..I used to do makeup every morning..but now...(whew) like I said...I do it so much for others, that I dread picking up the blush brush. Don't get me wrong..I LOVE MAKEUP...but I only do it for others now. My face is ok without it..at least, others agree with me on that one, too.
We HAVE TO LOOK GOOD. It is expected of us to. Men...(lol)
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i do admit i am biased since i hang around pretty girls who are obviously more superficial than average. it does not change the fact that women have a hard time accepting themselves and therefore have a lot more to prove
ill be waiting on your reply
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Yeah, we do. And pretty girls ARE more superficial because we have to keep up the image and the whole persona of what we create (especially us chics online..more pressure to keep up.)So, you are right...you just came off wrong in the intial post...

[QUOTE=minaroyale]JMoney.... you said:


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Yeah, we do. We HAVE to. Media...remember. I seldom wear makeup unless I am doing a shoot. I'm a makeup artist and to tell the truth, I put it on other people so much I tire of putting it on myself. So the makeup thing too, is depending on the chic. Phogirl won't leave the heezie without it, and I envy her..I used to do makeup every morning..but now...(whew) like I said...I do it so much for others, that I dread picking up the blush brush. Don't get me wrong..I LOVE MAKEUP...but I only do it for others now. My face is ok without it..at least, others agree with me on that one, too.
We HAVE TO LOOK GOOD. It is expected of us to. Men...(lol)
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Yea, I am addicted to makeup, I go to makeupalley.com all the time and read reviews on EVERYTHING before I buy it. Pls I have all the MAC brushes, I love to pretend I'm a makeup artist and do smoky eyes and all that crap. Makeup is like art, you can make yourself look any way you want. I am truly addicted.
Putting makeup on is also like a ritual, sometimes it calmes me when I am stressed out. :helpme

Phogirl..if you do all that...(I used to work for MAC)
Go get yourself a model's discount. Ask for an application for a discount card. For models I think it's 25%. Save money on your makeup, gal.

MUA's get like 40%-50% depending on your work and how much you show them.

It's a ritual, yes, and it IS calming. But being in a room full of 50 models 30mins before showtime and all of them need makeup...that, THAT is not calming..that is insane- but I LOVE my work.

Been there.

Kisses-
Sun

I don't think I can get a discount, because I'm not a model, just a webmaster.... I don't buy lot of makeup anymore, but I have tons saved up from a long time ago, even though I use it a lot it seems to last forever.

Honestly, 75% of the time I think girls who get boob jobs are LESS attractive after the surgery. Add a tattoo to complete the transition. They just look like hoes.

I can see it only in cases of severe disfigurement, or for small operations such as removing blemishes, etc..

The girl on Larry King recently has had like 30 operations. She is a monster. Sad.

Did anyone watch that crazy lady on CNN Larry King last night? 29 years old, 30 PLASTIC SURGERIES, and wants more...........
Here is a transcript (it's a long read, probably a bit boring but she is seriously messed up) Larry King transcripts with Jenny Lee
Here is her personal website Jenny Lee's Website

They showed her before and after photos on the show last night, she was a very beautiful woman before! After she looks like, well, a plastic nightmare.

She was one of those people that didn't need any of them, and now she's hooked.

OOOps, her website is down. Sorry guys. It appears as though after the Larry King show last night, she got a sh*tload of traffic and they shut it down.

I watched it, she sort of looked funny afterwards. Especially near the end of the show where they were showing her putting makeup on and stuff.

It's sort of like how all people with downs syndrome have similar facial characteristics, same with these addicted to plastic surgery.
I've seen a few of these women on different shows and they all sort of get the same characteristics and weird look.

But it's her body and I am a firm believer that she can do what she wants to with it.

wow, an honest woman. maybe there is hope for the world yet.

Jenny lee is an example of gone TOO FAR. But, it's her body and she can do what she wants to. So....hey....

We're social creatures. We like being attractive to others and accepted by them. Plastic surgery is just an extension of that as is working out. Sure, part of it is for one's self, but it has a whole lot to do with wanting to look good to other people, no matter how much people deny it.

Their are limits and obviously different degrees to which one should use things like plastic surgery.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...er99/cindy.jpg

GOOD plastic surgery. Cindy Jackson...the living barbie doll...(and MILF)
www.cindyjackson.com

BAD...

I'll leave that up to personal opinion.

Whoa.