I know a lot of you dont see the need to go to conventions either from the standpoint you would like to remain anonymous or some of you do enough buisness over the net and really have no need to attend any of the offline events. Personally I have learned so much in the last couple years by attending events and hearing seminars and speeches of those who are "major players" so how many of you are vention virgins?
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me...if i would live in the states then i would propably go to convetions often, but now it seems too far away...
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they won't let me cross the border with my entourage of pedes and gophers
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As far as the adult industry is concerned, I am virgin, but I was a vention stalwart when I worked for MM.
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I'll help you with that.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I need my cherry popped.
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no needs.You dont get horny..Originally posted by Sly_RJ
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I am. It seems that it would mainly benefit those who have programs to promote. I hear it's good to go network but unless you are running Yahoo or Google, I'm not sure how networking is going to help me. Not like you are going to go in, shake a few hands and get top and permanent listings on the AVS sites from now on.
Maybe I am missing something. I'm still looking to be enlightened.
I will go one day just for the fun though.Comment
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i've never gone to a convention. i'd probably get beat up for my views here. ;) but seriously, i don't see the advantage. i guess i'd go if i was going to do the 'buy a round for BP4L' thing, but i'd have to learn of the benefits of that beforehand.
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Originally posted by salsbury
i've never gone to a convention. i'd probably get beat up for my views here. ;) but seriously, i don't see the advantage. i guess i'd go if i was going to do the 'buy a round for BP4L' thing, but i'd have to learn of the benefits of that beforehand.
well there are 3 very important things u must ask yourself before going to conventions.
1) what is my purpose of being here??
2) What can I offer other people besides a couple of nice words?
3) Do I have any type of communication skills in real life besides typing "lol"?Last edited by TDF; 10-15-2002, 11:18 AM.Sig heil
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4) will i somehow profit from this, or is it a waste of time?Originally posted by toodamnfli
well there are 3 very important things u mmust ask yourself before going to conventions.
1) what is my purpose of being here??
2) What can I offer other people besides a couple of nice words?
3) Do I have any type of communication skills in real life besides typing "lol"?
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lol3) Do I have any type of communication skills in real life besides typing "lol"?Comment
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lol4) will i somehow profit from this, or is it a waste of time?Comment
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i think that kinda ties into number one of making your purpose. I actually had a list in Florida of key people that I wanted to speak to and I pretty much accomplished that and then some.Definitely 2k well spentOriginally posted by salsbury
4) will i somehow profit from this, or is it a waste of time?
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I am sooo fucked.Originally posted by toodamnfli
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lolI am sooo fucked.Comment
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You never know ;)Originally posted by RockDaddy
I am. It seems that it would mainly benefit those who have programs to promote. I hear it's good to go network but unless you are running Yahoo or Google, I'm not sure how networking is going to help me. Not like you are going to go in, shake a few hands and get top and permanent listings on the AVS sites from now on.
Maybe I am missing something. I'm still looking to be enlightened.
I will go one day just for the fun though.
I have had top links at various places just b/c I chatted with the person before and they knew me. Not in AVSes, but on linklists and such.
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Can you share with us "virgins" what some of your accomplishments were and how they have benefited you?i think that kinda ties into number one of making your purpose. I actually had a list in Florida of key people that I wanted to speak to and I pretty much accomplished that and then some.Definitely 2k well spent
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never been to one myself.... don't see a need to go to one now.
I got partying-like-a-coked-up-monkey outta my system in my twenties, so the party aspect has little to no value for me. I don't like to gamble, so that's out. I've been to Vegas countless times, so there's nothing there I feel I desperately need to see. So..... what's left? "Networking"? I can do that from the comfort of my home.
Have fun guys..... I'll continue sitting the conventions out.
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I can totally see that. I would probably give people better listings if they approached me also. And fuck, sometimes I get better listings just because I sent an email or message saying hey.Originally posted by ZoiNk
You never know ;)
I have had top links at various places just b/c I chatted with the person before and they knew me. Not in AVSes, but on linklists and such.
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Cool, I do linksites also. You know Sleazy Dream keeps all the big rollin' tgp owners all to himself though. You would have to be Ronald McDonald himself (j/k) to get past the moat and alligators to meet them.I have had top links at various places just b/c I chatted with the person before and they knew me. Not in AVSes, but on linklists and such.Comment
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I think #4 outweighs all other considerations. Moreover, I don't think other webmasters would really let you in on their "secret formulas" for spectacular conversion rates and/or marketing outlets that still convert.Originally posted by salsbury
4) will i somehow profit from this, or is it a waste of time?
I'm not knocking conventions, I'm sure they are a great way to just relax and meet people in the biz. But in terms of profit, at least for those in my situation [2 years and still learning/expanding], the question posed by re profitability outweighs other considerations. As I've automated my business, I'm spending 60% of my time reading boards for trends/articles for tips and 40% actual production.
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Well I can definitely say that some of my accomplishments were meeting various people over the years who I have done buisness with but never sat down. The FEB crew and Boss Hawg were a load to hang with. We sat down chatted up discussed traffic(amond the hundreds of pretty ladies walking by) but many sponsors will be willing to give you tips on their product just by chatting for a few minutes. R3K sat down with me and we talked about the hosting game(which I had no fuckin slue about) and explained tons of cool shit. Mike and the Soulcash crew told me ways I could convert better with their product and now my rates are looking pretty damn goodOriginally posted by RockDaddy
Can you share with us "virgins" what some of your accomplishments were and how they have benefited you?
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I'm a virgin. Wow that was fun to say after not being one for 16 years. oh, and.....
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me me me
i always had something important to do during those dates
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Originally posted by pimplink
I think #4 outweighs all other considerations. Moreover, I don't think other webmasters would really let you in on their "secret formulas" for spectacular conversion rates and/or marketing outlets that still convert.
I'm not knocking conventions, I'm sure they are a great way to just relax and meet people in the biz. But in terms of profit, at least for those in my situation [2 years and still learning/expanding], the question posed by re profitability outweighs other considerations. As I've automated my business, I'm spending 60% of my time reading boards for trends/articles for tips and 40% actual production.
pimplink I think you hit on a very important factor into all of this. A lot of people simply cant afford to leave their computer for a few days or they will get behind. There are some of us who make this a fulltime living( like I do now) or those who do this to earm extra money on top of holding down a fulltime job. SOme people just cant spend the money to attend one of these things and then not make any money. With any convention have a plan and stick to it.This buisness is built on the relationships we make either online,on the phone,or in person. I can honetly say I remember the people I met offline will stick out more than those I chat with on ICQ ( no offense all my ICQ folks)Sig heil
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to hard to spell CON vention?Comment
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i think vention virgin is a better name than CON vention virgin...think about itOriginally posted by jreaka
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touche oh smawt one..Originally posted by jreaka
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is it 'too' hard to type 'too'?Originally posted by jreaka
to hard to spell CON vention?
oh, and...
lol
hey, I'm getting good at this lol thing.
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here's my take on the convention thing....
I can appreciate that alot of people have a really great time at them... and I don't wanna take that away, but is it really worth $2k to $5k or whatever it runs now, just to walk around talking to a few people about stuff you could just as easily talk about across the Net? I can think of much better ways to spend several thousands of dollars. Isn't the majority of it just bs schmoozing anyway?SIG TOO BIGComment
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hey, I'm getting good at this lol thing
There may be a future for you in public relations, marketing, broadcasting or maybe even as a motivational speaker?
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That's what I'm talking about. Some hard figures. Tangible return on your investment. For the program owners, probably so or they wouldn't keep doing it, but... for the majority ??but is it really worth $2k to $5k or whatever it runs nowComment
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Originally posted by RockDaddy
There may be a future for you in public relations, marketing, broadcasting or maybe even as a motivational speaker?
lol lol lol
hehehe....
bet you thought I was gonna say lol again, didn't ya'?Comment
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bet you thought I was gonna say lol again, didn't ya'?
You DID. lolComment
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I love it when the "educated" people rip on grammar and spelling.Originally posted by turbo
is it 'too' hard to type 'too'?
oh, and...
lol
hey, I'm getting good at this lol thing.
You will come back with " I have degree in whatever,school for x many years, hada hada hada"
And yet you are on a chat board called Go Fuck Yourself
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huh? dude, I didn't even graduate from high school, so take a chill pill... what, you can joke but can't take a joke back?! pussy.Originally posted by jreaka
I love it when the "educated" people rip on grammar and spelling.
You will come back with " I have degree in whatever,school for x many years, hada hada hada"
And yet you are on a chat board called Go Fuck Yourself
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I agree.Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
here's my take on the convention thing....
I can appreciate that alot of people have a really great time at them... and I don't wanna take that away, but is it really worth $2k to $5k or whatever it runs now, just to walk around talking to a few people about stuff you could just as easily talk about across the Net? I can think of much better ways to spend several thousands of dollars. Isn't the majority of it just bs schmoozing anyway?
I wouldn't mind attending one though, just to get the experience of it. Maybe spend a night with Jenna, and get to shoot the shit with the hedgehog, shake hands with Lens and a few others I've come to know online.
And of course there's gambling. I don't do it often these days, but when I do I like to push it hard. heh heh
But yeah, I seem to do okay just networking from home. So what I'm saying here is I'm still cherry.Promote Wildmatch, ImLive, Sexier.com, and more!!
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amp I agree with you 100% but then again there is always this question. What place do I have in this industry? Im sure a designer of your caliber if you were to go to a convention would have made your money back in one project. Many many people make their living by the valuable connections they make at these conventions.One word I have always lived by is you have to spend money to make money.Sure there are parties and the such but the vibe that I got was always buisness first even while getting a lap dance(thanks Blackkitty.com crew).Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
here's my take on the convention thing....
I can appreciate that alot of people have a really great time at them... and I don't wanna take that away, but is it really worth $2k to $5k or whatever it runs now, just to walk around talking to a few people about stuff you could just as easily talk about across the Net? I can think of much better ways to spend several thousands of dollars. Isn't the majority of it just bs schmoozing anyway?Sig heil
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Originally posted by turbo
huh? dude, I didn't even graduate from high school, so take a chill pill... what, you can joke but can't take a joke back?! pussy.
Now thats funny!
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This post is all too funny. I think you're in the wrong industry. I think you're on the wrong planet.Originally posted by phogirl69
I've only been webmastering for over 2 yrs but I've never been to one I'm hesitant about going because I think conventions are geared towards men, and I don't like to see other women naked and see a bunch of skank whores flashing their saggy tits and smelly tuna and whatnot.
I also have no need to see content parties and whatnot, all the other wild stuff that goes on there. What if in the middle of the convention some guy starts getting a bj or something? I swear I saw pics of that happening somewhere. I would prolly be scared
and traumatized for life, lol
I also think that men would be disrespectful towards me or accidentally mistake me as content... I already have a bad attitude sometimes and I can't handle being harassed or ogled whatever... I get irritated and no I don't think its flattering. So even tho AWE in Los Angeles is pretty close to me, I won't be going because all of those factors. O'h yeah, and I don't know any webmasters in real life so I don't want to walk around like a loser all by myself.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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Originally posted by phogirl69
I've only been webmastering for over 2 yrs but I've never been to one I'm hesitant about going because I think conventions are geared towards men, and I don't like to see other women naked and see a bunch of skank whores flashing their saggy tits and smelly tuna and whatnot.
I also have no need to see content parties and whatnot, all the other wild stuff that goes on there. What if in the middle of the convention some guy starts getting a bj or something? I swear I saw pics of that happening somewhere. I would prolly be scared
and traumatized for life, lol
I also think that men would be disrespectful towards me or accidentally mistake me as content... I already have a bad attitude sometimes and I can't handle being harassed or ogled whatever... I get irritated and no I don't think its flattering. So even tho AWE in Los Angeles is pretty close to me, I won't be going because all of those factors. O'h yeah, and I don't know any webmasters in real life so I don't want to walk around like a loser all by myself.
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thats true. I saw many many clothed women in the industry who dont get harassed like content does as long as you let people know that your not the content but the actual webmistress.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
This post is all too funny. I think you're in the wrong industry. I think you're on the wrong planet.Sig heil
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Seriously man, you'd be surprised just what being a social butterfly at a convention will get you.Originally posted by RockDaddy
I am. It seems that it would mainly benefit those who have programs to promote. I hear it's good to go network but unless you are running Yahoo or Google, I'm not sure how networking is going to help me. Not like you are going to go in, shake a few hands and get top and permanent listings on the AVS sites from now on.
Maybe I am missing something. I'm still looking to be enlightened.
I will go one day just for the fun though.
Cheers,
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Sly RJ,
How am I on the wrong planet? Is anything bout what I said untrue? What is your problem? Everything I said is true, it may not be what you like to hear, but it's true.
How am I in the wrong industry? Just because I don't want to see a bunch of naked whores means i'm in the wrong biz? Just because I sell porn over the net does not mean I have to like to
be in that kind of an atmosphere.Last edited by phogirl69; 10-15-2002, 12:55 PM.Comment
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The part about you having a bad attitude is extremely true.Originally posted by phogirl69
Sly RJ,
How am I on the wrong planet? Is anything bout what I said untrue? What is your problem? Everything I said is true, it may not be what you like to hear, but it's true.
How am I in the wrong industry? Just because I don't want to see a bunch of naked whores means i'm in the wrong biz? Just because I sell porn over the net does not mean I have to like to
be in that kind of an atmosphere.
What exactly do you do anyway? I was always under the assumption that you built porn sites. Do you not? I swear I saw one of your sites listed at Bomis, if not, someone else must be using phogirl69.
I don't understand how you can build porn sites, yet you cringe at the thought of seeing other women naked or some guy getting his dick sucked.
Please explain, I'm very interested.PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price!
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Whats to explain? I do primarily gay sites right now.Originally posted by Sly_RJ
The part about you having a bad attitude is extremely true.
What exactly do you do anyway? I was always under the assumption that you built porn sites. Do you not? I swear I saw one of your sites listed at Bomis, if not, someone else must be using phogirl69.
I don't understand how you can build porn sites, yet you cringe at the thought of seeing other women naked or some guy getting his dick sucked.
Please explain, I'm very interested.
Does that mean I want to go into a gay club, and watch 2 guys fucking then ending in a facial cumshot?
FUCK NO.
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Yeah , I have some Bomis rings I use to feed my sites so yeah they are mine. Anyways, umm... I just think of sex as a product, but I sell it over the net so I don't think it's as bad as like really doing it in person you know? I just promote affiliate programs, so I just think of it as advertising and pushing as many surfers as I can to sponsors... There's nothing wrong with a guy getting his little weenie sucked, but do I actually have to witness it in person????
Nothing wrong with naked whores either, but doesn't mean I wanna have them doing it in front of my face either.Last edited by phogirl69; 10-15-2002, 01:09 PM.Comment
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