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BeatingSkull · 10-05-2005, 05:48 PM

can someone explain to me how nats works?

i believe most of the sponsors i use track with nats.. some of them dont.

anyway, they all have linking codes with trackers. does it still track if the surfer blocks cookies? i just checked stats for the last hour & only 1 out of the last 85 uniques allowed cookies. can someone point me in the right direction on how to handle this? how can i code the site so surfer has to allow cookies to gain access.

another question is, one particular sponsor site is showing 0 clicks & i think that is 100% complete bullshit & i want to catch them redhanded.. what clicktracker should i use. one that will not fuck up the sponsors tracking code.

thank you

High Plains Drifter · 10-05-2005, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BeatingSkull

i just checked stats for the last hour & only 1 out of the last 85 uniques allowed cookies.

you sure about that?

aico · 10-05-2005, 05:54 PM

I personally don't know, but I've been told, without even asking about it, by several webmasters that they won't use (or try not to use) any sponsors who use Nats, because the sign ups suck (for them, not sure about the actual sponsor).

Just what I've been told, not saying it's true or untrue, and I won't name any names either.

nico-t · 10-05-2005, 06:02 PM

very interesting, id like to know this too

BeatingSkull · 10-05-2005, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nico-t

very interesting, id like to know this too

well, if there's something wrong with nats, i think we all want to know..

no need to name sponsor names, just what's wrong with nats

BeatingSkull · 10-06-2005, 06:28 AM

it happened again

now it says 2 distinct users accepted cookies (out of 77).

either i make the site so surfer HAS to have cookies enabled, OR i get rid of sponsors who use the cookies in tracking. this is very disturbing to me. what can i do to make sure i am getting tracked properly for no cookie surfers, because it's stating to look like 99% surfers have cookies turned off????

Zester · 10-06-2005, 07:09 AM

thread = bookmarked

nats are not the only ones using cookies for tracking

gornyhuy · 10-06-2005, 07:10 AM

I find those cookie percentages VERY hard to believe.

Rinaldo · 10-06-2005, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aico

I personally don't know, but I've been told, without even asking about it, by several webmasters that they won't use (or try not to use) any sponsors who use Nats, because the sign ups suck (for them, not sure about the actual sponsor).

Just what I've been told, not saying it's true or untrue, and I won't name any names either.

Well I tend to disagree considering we're getting praise from everyone that uses our program. The conversions aren't effected by nats in a negative way as far as you the webmaster is concerned.

Try us you'll see what I mean, if i'm wrong you can continue what you were saying.

DanielS · 10-06-2005, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by aico

I personally don't know, but I've been told, without even asking about it, by several webmasters that they won't use (or try not to use) any sponsors who use Nats, because the sign ups suck (for them, not sure about the actual sponsor).

Just what I've been told, not saying it's true or untrue, and I won't name any names either.

You're right, sign ups sucks for some webmasters using NATS sponsors. It's a lot easier to me make a signup on a Ccbill sponsor than a NAT sponsor. Also, some NATS sponsors require $100 to get a payment. With Ccbill you can have all your accounts merged. :D

TMM_John · 10-06-2005, 08:58 AM

NATS tracks via cookie, URL, and IP address.

Some affiliates claim to have problems getting joins with NATS, typically they're people complaining about not geting a join in a few thousand hits. That simply just happens sometimes.

Doctor Dre · 10-06-2005, 09:17 AM

When a compagny gets big, a lot of people will start hating on it ... but if all people can dig are a bug that shown how much people were bullshitting, and fairytales ... that's not bad

Machete_ · 10-06-2005, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre

When a compagny gets big, a lot of people will start hating on it ... but if all people can dig are a bug that shown how much people were bullshitting, and fairytales ... that's not bad

ENGRISH MTF!!!

slapass · 10-06-2005, 09:23 AM

When Nats first started lots of programs had some issues the first 2 months. It sucked as 2 of these were major parts of my income. The issues were fixed and Nats and them seem to be fine by me.

Lycanthrope · 10-06-2005, 09:26 AM

I can really only comment about NATS with one sponsor as I have sent this sponsor roughly the same amount and type of traffic when they were straight CCBILL and after they switched to NATS. The amount of sales almost doubled, the ratios are now nearly twice as good and the rebills are up. Not just because of cascading either, because the CCBILL stats are better as well.

BeatingSkull · 10-06-2005, 03:55 PM

OK.. i still am curious how to solve this low cookies #s --- wtf-- if hardly none of the surfers allow cookies, or have them shut off, then what the fuck!!

screw the fucking surfer. if he wants to see my site, then he needs his fucking cookies enabled. i'm paying for shit for these no cookie bastards to signup & i get no credit..fuck that!! please someone tell me what code i need to make it so surfer cant access my site with cookies turned off?

i just checked again!!

here is exactly what the stats show;
The web server was visited by 1 distinct users accepting cookies, as determined by individual user-identifying "cookies" received at least twice.

& that is out of 69 uniques??? imagine, if that were 6900 in the last hour, then only 100 of them would have cookies on? 1/69 100/6900 ??? that's not good

khs · 10-06-2005, 03:59 PM

google "clickme php" for a good click counter

BlingDaddy · 10-06-2005, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeatingSkull

OK.. i still am curious how to solve this low cookies #s --- wtf-- if hardly none of the surfers allow cookies, or have them shut off, then what the fuck!!

screw the fucking surfer. if he wants to see my site, then he needs his fucking cookies enabled. i'm paying for shit for these no cookie bastards to signup & i get no credit..fuck that!! please someone tell me what code i need to make it so surfer cant access my site with cookies turned off?

i just checked again!!

here is exactly what the stats show;
The web server was visited by 1 distinct users accepting cookies, as determined by individual user-identifying "cookies" received at least twice.

& that is out of 69 uniques??? imagine, if that were 6900 in the last hour, then only 100 of them would have cookies on? 1/69 100/6900 ??? that's not good

I been trying to figure this out for awhile. Dutchman was awesome at checking this shit out.

10-05-2005, 05:48 PM	#1
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	fucking educated surfers --damnit can someone explain to me how nats works? i believe most of the sponsors i use track with nats.. some of them dont. anyway, they all have linking codes with trackers. does it still track if the surfer blocks cookies? i just checked stats for the last hour & only 1 out of the last 85 uniques allowed cookies. can someone point me in the right direction on how to handle this? how can i code the site so surfer has to allow cookies to gain access. another question is, one particular sponsor site is showing 0 clicks & i think that is 100% complete bullshit & i want to catch them redhanded.. what clicktracker should i use. one that will not fuck up the sponsors tracking code. thank you __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

10-06-2005, 06:28 AM	#6
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	it happened again now it says 2 distinct users accepted cookies (out of 77). either i make the site so surfer HAS to have cookies enabled, OR i get rid of sponsors who use the cookies in tracking. this is very disturbing to me. what can i do to make sure i am getting tracked properly for no cookie surfers, because it's stating to look like 99% surfers have cookies turned off???? __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

10-06-2005, 07:09 AM	#7
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10-06-2005, 07:10 AM	#8
gornyhuy Chafed. Join Date: May 2002 Location: Face Down in Pussy Posts: 18,041	I find those cookie percentages VERY hard to believe. __________________ icq:159548293

10-06-2005, 08:58 AM	#11
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	NATS tracks via cookie, URL, and IP address. Some affiliates claim to have problems getting joins with NATS, typically they're people complaining about not geting a join in a few thousand hits. That simply just happens sometimes. __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

10-05-2005, 05:54 PM	#3
aico Moo Moo Cow Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 14,748	I personally don't know, but I've been told, without even asking about it, by several webmasters that they won't use (or try not to use) any sponsors who use Nats, because the sign ups suck (for them, not sure about the actual sponsor). Just what I've been told, not saying it's true or untrue, and I won't name any names either.

10-05-2005, 06:02 PM	#4
nico-t emperor of my world Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: nethalands Posts: 29,903	very interesting, id like to know this too

10-06-2005, 09:23 AM	#14
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	When Nats first started lots of programs had some issues the first 2 months. It sucked as 2 of these were major parts of my income. The issues were fixed and Nats and them seem to be fine by me.

10-06-2005, 09:26 AM	#15
Lycanthrope Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 4,517	I can really only comment about NATS with one sponsor as I have sent this sponsor roughly the same amount and type of traffic when they were straight CCBILL and after they switched to NATS. The amount of sales almost doubled, the ratios are now nearly twice as good and the rebills are up. Not just because of cascading either, because the CCBILL stats are better as well. __________________

10-06-2005, 03:55 PM	#16
BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	OK.. i still am curious how to solve this low cookies #s --- wtf-- if hardly none of the surfers allow cookies, or have them shut off, then what the fuck!! screw the fucking surfer. if he wants to see my site, then he needs his fucking cookies enabled. i'm paying for shit for these no cookie bastards to signup & i get no credit..fuck that!! please someone tell me what code i need to make it so surfer cant access my site with cookies turned off? i just checked again!! here is exactly what the stats show; The web server was visited by 1 distinct users accepting cookies, as determined by individual user-identifying "cookies" received at least twice. & that is out of 69 uniques??? imagine, if that were 6900 in the last hour, then only 100 of them would have cookies on? 1/69 100/6900 ??? that's not good __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

10-06-2005, 03:59 PM	#17
khs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,730	google "clickme php" for a good click counter __________________ Make MORE $$$ now! PussyCash