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NoWhErE 10-04-2005 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LittleMack
I found the Flip 4 Mac is decent for conversions, but wondered if any better for Mac. Convert at 800+ for broadband and around 250 for lowband. I find the mac system has some issues converting to Windows Media. Thanks for the feedback!! :thumbsup


Thats quite possible, MAC and Windows never did get along much ;)

3M TA3 10-04-2005 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SixNine
I'll help you dewd.
It sounds like you don't have tracks 1 and 4 enabled to export. Most non-linear editors rip Avid with their interface so most likely if you look to the beginning of the timeline you'll notice that the actual track marker is either subdued or has some other way of marking it active. It should be that easy... although I haven't cut on an Avid system in a while. :)

SixNine


hey man, that would have been the easy way out.

Here's how I finally fixed it. I realized that tracks 3 & 4 were imported at a different time than 1 & 2. digging into it, 3 & 4 were live and 1 & 2 were offline media. 2 seconds before throwing the box out of the window I reimported the offline media and WHAM. it worked.

the point of this story is...Avid sucks, all it is good for is job security for all the footage already started in Avid

NoWhErE 10-04-2005 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueMoon
hey man, that would have been the easy way out.

Here's how I finally fixed it. I realized that tracks 3 & 4 were imported at a different time than 1 & 2. digging into it, 3 & 4 were live and 1 & 2 were offline media. 2 seconds before throwing the box out of the window I reimported the offline media and WHAM. it worked.

the point of this story is...Avid sucks, all it is good for is job security for all the footage already started in Avid



Amen! :thumbsup

BluMedia 10-04-2005 11:35 PM

Do you know how to get the best quality video when rendering in Video Vegas?

Thanks,
Mark

NoWhErE 10-05-2005 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BluMedia
Do you know how to get the best quality video when rendering in Video Vegas?

Thanks,
Mark

^


Well, technically the best QUALITY video you can get is RAW video... no compression whatsover. The DV codec is pretty close to that. That will give you an AVI.

If you're looking to export to WMV, well its all about the bitrate. 2000kbs and above is pretty high quality(I think 10 000 kbs is the highest you can go, but I could be wrong on that).

MPEGs, well, MPEG 2 is DVD quality, so thats pretty good ;)

and what else? hmmm... I guess that covers the 3 standards. Well there is .mov but its not really that important :D hihi

NoWhErE 10-05-2005 01:17 PM

Bump for the evening crowd

NoWhErE 10-05-2005 11:15 PM

Bump for the night shift

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 09:41 AM

Bump for today

Gimme all you can dish out :)

Expo_Vids 10-06-2005 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halcyon
I want to set up a "news anchor" like setup. head and torso. Time...well, I'm looking for an easy solution if there is one. I'd sacrifice some quality for ease at this point.


Hal,

Check out a product called "Serious Magic". Exactly what you are looking for.

ProjectNaked 10-06-2005 10:37 AM

Thanks for the help on the [editing wmv] question. I've tried a few different things and nothing seems to come out good. double exporting a wmv cuts it down in size again resulting in a tiny picture and I can't remember what happened when converting to avi then back to wmv but it wasn't good. - Not worried about it, just gonna have the guy doing the grunt work use the edited .proj files and go from scratch.

NEXT QUESTION: How much quality is lost when capturing from minidv, exporting raw .avi to dvd disc and then using that disc as the source video. I have 200+ hours of content and harddrive space is not an option. I burn raw 20 min+/- segments to dvd disc and then use them in Premiere Pro from the drive on the computer. This way, when I need to use a video, I open the .proj file, insert the dvd, and "locate the source" - it conforms the video/audio and is ready to edit. Is there any significant quality loss from using the .avi file form a disc vs. directly from a harddrive????

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 10:45 AM

Wow, I had never heard of them, just watched the demo and it looks amazing.

Downloading the demo as we speak to give it a try!


Feedback coming soon

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectNaked
Thanks for the help on the [editing wmv] question. I've tried a few different things and nothing seems to come out good. double exporting a wmv cuts it down in size again resulting in a tiny picture and I can't remember what happened when converting to avi then back to wmv but it wasn't good. - Not worried about it, just gonna have the guy doing the grunt work use the edited .proj files and go from scratch.

NEXT QUESTION: How much quality is lost when capturing from minidv, exporting raw .avi to dvd disc and then using that disc as the source video. I have 200+ hours of content and harddrive space is not an option. I burn raw 20 min+/- segments to dvd disc and then use them in Premiere Pro from the drive on the computer. This way, when I need to use a video, I open the .proj file, insert the dvd, and "locate the source" - it conforms the video/audio and is ready to edit. Is there any significant quality loss from using the .avi file form a disc vs. directly from a harddrive????


ACtually bro, I've been doing a bit of research since you posted. There exists several wmv splitters out there that can do what you're looking for (just cutting out bits and pieces) without loss in quality.

Try something like this : http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/fil...d,23295,00.asp

If you want to actually edit your wmv. Bring it into your editing program and export the ENTIRE wmv file as an uncompressed AVI (the Microsoft DV codec works pretty good too). Then bring that AVI unto the timeline, cut it up as you please. When your done, reencode that AVI as a wmv using the SAME Bitrate as in the original wmv.

i.e if your original porn.wmv file was a 700 kbps file, then encode your final avi into a 700 kbps wmv. There will be no loss in quality.

If there is something you don't understand in the process, just contact me on ICQ

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectNaked
Thanks for the help on the [editing wmv] question. I've tried a few different things and nothing seems to come out good. double exporting a wmv cuts it down in size again resulting in a tiny picture and I can't remember what happened when converting to avi then back to wmv but it wasn't good. - Not worried about it, just gonna have the guy doing the grunt work use the edited .proj files and go from scratch.

NEXT QUESTION: How much quality is lost when capturing from minidv, exporting raw .avi to dvd disc and then using that disc as the source video. I have 200+ hours of content and harddrive space is not an option. I burn raw 20 min+/- segments to dvd disc and then use them in Premiere Pro from the drive on the computer. This way, when I need to use a video, I open the .proj file, insert the dvd, and "locate the source" - it conforms the video/audio and is ready to edit. Is there any significant quality loss from using the .avi file form a disc vs. directly from a harddrive????


Any loss will not be noticeable and nobody will care unless you plan on going showing your clips to a bunch of Motion Picture and Television Engineers.

The only loss of quality you will achieve is when you finish all your editing and you choose which format you want to export it on.

Theoritically, your process is just transfering your AVI from one storage device to another without any compression, so there is no loss in quality. Unless the DVD is scratched, but then you lose information... information and quality are 2 seperate notions.







Sooooo all in all, the answer to your question is : No :thumbsup

ProjectNaked 10-06-2005 11:01 AM

That's AWESOME! Thanks! That sounds like it should work perfectly. :thumbsup

romeoboi 10-06-2005 11:01 AM

I have flash mx and I want to add a 10 sec video clip to one of my tours. Ive imported a quicktime video of it but I dont know how to effectively preload and stream it for viewers... any help or suggestions on good tutorial sites? thanks! :)

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi
I have flash mx and I want to add a 10 sec video clip to one of my tours. Ive imported a quicktime video of it but I dont know how to effectively preload and stream it for viewers... any help or suggestions on good tutorial sites? thanks! :)


Sorry Bro, I don't know jack squat about Flash.

Try the Macromedia Forums maybe...

bu((aneer 10-06-2005 11:49 AM

great post!
Quick question-

I bought some content dvds. I seem to be losing alot of quality when I convert them to .wmv. This is how I am doing them:

1.Copy VOB files to harddrive.
2.Split VOB files into 7 smaller ones.
3.Use Flask to convert the VOB files into raw AVI files. I want to change the size to 400x300, but it seems I need to keep to multiples of 16 so I have to use the size 400x304!
4.Use cleaner to encode them into .wmv

Any better way of doing it?

thnx

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expo_Vids
Hal,

Check out a product called "Serious Magic". Exactly what you are looking for.


Just tested it out and Serious Magic is friggin AWESOME!


Thanks mate, saves me alot of trouble on certain jobs!

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 08:01 PM

Bump for the night shift

Mitch Cumstein 10-06-2005 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by High Quality
Is there a way to add branding / watermark / text on a video without losing any quality? I use vegas video 6.0 - but if there is a specific program that does this, please let me know!

HQ

Did you get this one?

Great thread BTW :thumbsup !

Evil Doer 10-06-2005 09:48 PM

100....... :pimp

woj 10-06-2005 09:48 PM

:warning :warning :warning

Doctor Dre 10-06-2005 09:49 PM

3rd page of this great thread already :P

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mitch Cumstein
Did you get this one?

Great thread BTW :thumbsup !

Ya we solved it on ICQ.


Basically, he had WMVs that he wanted to brand with his logo. But the problem is that if you take a compressed WMV into Vegas, brand it and export it, you get a Super compressed crappy looking file.

So, to brand a WMV, you must first uncompress it into an AVI. Using Microsoft's DV codec usually does a good job. No loss of quality whatsoever (be sure to keep the same aspect ration, frame size, Frame rate, etc.)

With the uncompressed AVI, do whatever you please... Watermark it, chop it up, whatever floats your boat.

When you're done changing the whole thing. Recompress that AVI into a WMV, BUT, remember to compress it exactly like the original WMV was (Same KBPS - KiloBytes Per Second), same frame rate, same EVERYTHING.)


And voila!!!

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj
:warning :warning :warning



You're loosing it bro ;)

NoWhErE 10-06-2005 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre
3rd page of this great thread already :P



Lets get it to 4!!!

Camon peeps, ask me anything.

Ever wondered how they did a certains special effect in a movie? Wanna recreate it yourself? Ask me, I'll tell you how.

underthecovers 10-07-2005 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
The reason why they use blue and green screens is for the simple fact that those 2 colours are the least dominant on a person's skin and in nature.


When performing greenscreen, you're telling the computer to eliminate a certain color from the image, well, if you were to use a white backdrop, everything that is white (including glares, eyeballs, teeth, etc) would be taken out of the image.

But green and blue are less likely to be found in images (especially the blue and green they use), so you have less chances of unwanted artifacts being lost.

Its that simple

Actually it has little to do with dominant colours and nature. green is everywhere in nature in fact it is the dominant colour. you need to get out of the city a little.

Red tends to bleed very badly so generally its avoided.

The eye is MOST sensitive to Blue. so video compression schemes throw away (compress) a lot of the blue in an image. This makes it a very poor candidate for chromakeying.

That leaves green as the only real choice left.

I wish I had known this a while back. Wasted hours of footage using a blue screen :(

I have seen a fantastic product which is a cloth made of small glass beads. it reflects green light. the camera is then fitted with special LED's around the lense which illuminate the cloth and nothing else. the result is near perfect chromakeying.

I cant recall what the product was called but it wasnt cheap.

A quick search failed to find it. but its out there somewhere
Ooops found it. Chromatte!
http://www.reflecmedia.com/content.a...=chromatte.htm


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nyana 10-07-2005 01:54 AM

I need a video editing program for watermarking videos ...... whats a good quality inexpensive one to buy ? I don't want to buy a deluxe suite package as pretty much the only thing that it will be used for is watermarking.

thanks!

NoWhErE 10-07-2005 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underthecovers
Actually it has little to do with dominant colours and nature. green is everywhere in nature in fact it is the dominant colour. you need to get out of the city a little.

Red tends to bleed very badly so generally its avoided.

The eye is MOST sensitive to Blue. so video compression schemes throw away (compress) a lot of the blue in an image. This makes it a very poor candidate for chromakeying.

That leaves green as the only real choice left.

I wish I had known this a while back. Wasted hours of footage using a blue screen :(

I have seen a fantastic product which is a cloth made of small glass beads. it reflects green light. the camera is then fitted with special LED's around the lense which illuminate the cloth and nothing else. the result is near perfect chromakeying.

I cant recall what the product was called but it wasnt cheap.

A quick search failed to find it. but its out there somewhere
Ooops found it. Chromatte!
http://www.reflecmedia.com/content.a...=chromatte.htm


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Great post!

NoWhErE 10-07-2005 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nyana
I need a video editing program for watermarking videos ...... whats a good quality inexpensive one to buy ? I don't want to buy a deluxe suite package as pretty much the only thing that it will be used for is watermarking.

thanks!


I checked your original thread and someone suggested something that seemed to be a pretty good solution to your problem.

I'd suggest the exact same thing he did

NoWhErE 10-07-2005 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underthecovers
Actually it has little to do with dominant colours and nature. green is everywhere in nature in fact it is the dominant colour. you need to get out of the city a little.

Red tends to bleed very badly so generally its avoided.

The eye is MOST sensitive to Blue. so video compression schemes throw away (compress) a lot of the blue in an image. This makes it a very poor candidate for chromakeying.

That leaves green as the only real choice left.

I wish I had known this a while back. Wasted hours of footage using a blue screen :(

I have seen a fantastic product which is a cloth made of small glass beads. it reflects green light. the camera is then fitted with special LED's around the lense which illuminate the cloth and nothing else. the result is near perfect chromakeying.

I cant recall what the product was called but it wasnt cheap.

A quick search failed to find it. but its out there somewhere
Ooops found it. Chromatte!
http://www.reflecmedia.com/content.a...=chromatte.htm


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I just checked out the product you mentioned and that is some crazy stuff... not quite sure I would spring for that though... I'd have to see it in action.

mb 10-07-2005 01:59 PM

When you rip video from a DVD and the dimensions are 720x480, is it best to encode that video to the same aspect ratio or change it to 640x480? I've asked different people and always get different answers.

To me, it makes sense to keep the encoded material exactly the same as the source... but I guess there is some mathematical equation thingie that I'm not considering.

I've also been told to "squish" the screengrabs down to 640x480 when taking them from a 720x480 source.

As you can see, I'm totally confused. My goal is to take ripped DVD material and encode it in the highest possible quality.

am I missing something?

thanks,

marc

NoWhErE 10-07-2005 03:04 PM

Well, basically, its all a question of pixels. Ripped DVD footage is in 720x480 and have rectangular pixels for a ratio of 3:2.

As for normal TV video (or even what you see on your screen), the standard is 640x480 with square pixels to give you a ratio of 4:3.

Thats why when you squish your images down to 640x480, they look better on your computer monitor. So if you're gonna RIP from a DVD and encode for the web, ya it'd be better to squish it down to 640x480 for a better, clearer, ratioed image.

underthecovers 10-08-2005 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoWhErE
I just checked out the product you mentioned and that is some crazy stuff... not quite sure I would spring for that though... I'd have to see it in action.


Look around I found a seller with a lot of videos showing it in action.

I was very impressed.

NoWhErE 10-08-2005 06:07 PM

Will do


P.S : Today's Bump :)

NoWhErE 10-10-2005 11:01 AM

Bump for Monday! :)

Go ahead, ask me anything

Toni 10-10-2005 12:49 PM

What's the best program to convert mpeg files to multipl formats of wmv in a bulk?

NoWhErE 10-10-2005 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toni
What's the best program to convert mpeg files to multipl formats of wmv in a bulk?


I don't know if there is a specific program that does this. But Adobe After Effects can create a render Queue for you. YOu just tell it what you want to render, set the settings, and hit render.

NoWhErE 10-11-2005 06:06 PM

Bringing this baby right back to the top!

bu((aneer 10-12-2005 04:31 AM

Do you accept donations? :winkwink: :winkwink:

Question-

Is 320x240 the best size to use for web video?

I bought some content dvds. I seem to be losing alot of quality when I convert them to .wmv. This is how I am doing them:

1.Copy VOB files to harddrive.
2.Split VOB files into 7 smaller ones.
3.Use Flask to convert the VOB files into raw AVI files. I want to change the size to 400x300, but it seems I need to keep to multiples of 16 so I have to use the size 400x304!
4.Use cleaner to encode them into .wmv

Any better way of doing it?

thnx


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