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theWatsonian 03-03-2002 02:04 AM

Considering all the shit that virtual accounts get for next to nothing, would you bother mirroring them?

Chris R 03-03-2002 03:00 AM

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Originally posted by theWatsonian
The problem with hosts that come out of the woodwork when Prohosters has downtime is that they simply cannot offer what we are getting. I think the virtual accounts attract those of us running a score of free and avs sites, for the most part, and do very little tgp work (or keep our galleries on free hosts like I do).

These other hosts don't understand that we can make decent sales off a few thousands surfers a month but we need gobs of space, domains, static IP addresses, email accounts for each domain and reasonable prices for bandwidth overages.

Hosts that want to get my attention need to offer the following for less than 15 bucks per month:

* up to 50 static IPs right away, no monthly charge for additional IPs
* 500MB disk space
* 10 pop email accounts and a catchall for anything sent to other domains
* FTP 24/7, naturally
* Telnet, cgi, php, optional mysql
* Online realtime stats
And, most importantly, acting like a dick when a host has problems won't make me a customer.

Now, I haven't seen any other hosts that can meet these requirements. It's probably crazy to try. Who knows...

I couldn't say it better myself.
I don't mind paying $1 or so an IP. I don't mind paying even a few dollars for bandwidth, but other hosts just don't offer what they do - find someone else that offers 100 unique IPs for free, FREE cusomt name servers, SQL, SSI on html pages, and fast 24 hour support.

Unfortunately - they are down too often. Here is the closest match I have found for what I thik is reasonable. greenguy uses them:

https://secure130.allwebsites.com/de...ableprices.php

The say on the front page you can get extra IPs for $1.00 a month, but when I try to place an order it says $5.00 and they MUST BE PLACED AT THE TIME YOU ORDER. What is the deal with that? Anyway, I am starting to lose track of the hosts I am going through. I see the spam on here all the time, but almost no one addresses the specifics.

I was told by another host (that is mentioned on here all the time) that I could have all the unique IPS I wanted. I added a dozen or so sites with them and told a friend about them He said they told him he couldn't have unique IPs. I looked at the website and it had been changed - no more unique IPs - and worse yet - found that most of my sites were not on unique IPS - even though I was promised the would be. The then became so poor at figuring every thing out - that he had to drop them. I still have some sites there - as the have good uptime and good prices.

Dualcpu 03-03-2002 03:18 AM

Stick with the old reliable hosts, back in 1997/1998 there weren't as many hosts as now.

Everyone is opening their own hosts these days, I am not suprised this causes problems.

And no, I am not going to mention any reliable hosts ;-)

sakamoto 03-03-2002 04:25 AM

PROHOSTERS GO FUCK YOURSELF!

They have destroyed all my traffic trades... bastards!:boid

pimpshost 03-03-2002 05:06 AM

Hello Wiredoctor, I have been up tonight on the message boards and I am offering help to people that ask for it. I did go and reply to all the threads with hosting questions or concerns, because that is what interests me. And I am definately not here to bash any companies or SPAM.

I just happened to be up late on a Saturday night and saw a few people are having problems with their hosting company. Some of them even asking for help or where to go. So I gave my advice. We offer great prices, we are reliable, we will help people move files from one account to another, we provide 24 hour customer support. If anyone needs help, send me an email: [email protected]

Here is the answer to yoru question:
Our providers are Level 3 and Cogent. We are on a multiple Gig-E backbone. Almost all of our traffic goes through Cogent and we use Level 3 as the backup. We host a lot of the freehosts out there on our backbone.

Dualcpu 03-03-2002 05:15 AM

Pimpshost,

So Cogent bandwidth is good?

We use UUNET, MCI WORLDCOM and IBM-NET ourselves and are very happy with them.

There is a big price difference between Cogent and others, there should be a reason for that?

amadman 03-03-2002 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pimpshost
Hello Wiredoctor, I have been up tonight on the message boards and I am offering help to people that ask for it. I did go and reply to all the threads with hosting questions or concerns, because that is what interests me.



The thread 'Hosting that meets my requirements'
May have been a good opening for you to spam your host.

But this tread is about the status/details of a host that is down.
Not people asking for a new host.

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And I am definately not here to bash any companies or SPAM.


Yes you are.(see above)

Quote:


...... Some of them even asking for help or where to go.


Not on this thread.

Quote:


So I gave my advice.


Again...nobody asked for it here.

Quote:


We offer great prices, we are reliable, we will help people move files from one account to another, we provide 24 hour customer support. If anyone needs help, send me an email: [email protected]



There it is again!

Looks like it! Smells like it! Taste like it!
Its Spam!

Sjayne 03-03-2002 08:14 AM

Well, I am on a virtual plan so I don't have my own server and it isn't a huge account either.

Just as theWatsonian said, I used prohosters for a bum load of free and AVS sites. I never used it for the TGP stuff I do..I used Oscer's host for that and never had any complaints. So, I don't use a huge amount of bandwith with them. I guess I am at about 20-30gb on that host. In addtion I use them because I have a lot of domains..both for adult and non adult projects and it is invaluable that I can just tell them to add a domain and they do and there isn't a charge.

See, until recently Prohosters were very reliable. Then they started having trouble a few months ago when they had that big outage. I mean, their own site is down so I doubt they are sitting around with their thumbs up their bums doing nothing. Also, in the past when I have needed help them have been right there to help me.

Yes, I am worried about my traffic. I am worried about the status of my AVS sites. If they get removed from the AVS systems I really dread having to go through and check to see if they are still there. Not to mention the Freenetpass premium sites that took ages to build and I had just started promoting.

I have been looking at some other hosts but I am going to give them until monday to be back up and to tell us what they are going to do to #1 make sure this doesn't happen again and #2 compensate. Especially as I just paid my bill.

mariuz 03-03-2002 08:14 AM

Pimps host = cologroup = hosting.fm
http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...threadid=50731

If your such a good quality standup host..why change the name of your company?

amadman 03-03-2002 09:09 AM

Yeah I am pretty small and only use there smallest account.

I think the biggest pull of prohosters for me was the free ip/domains.

The other hosting company I use charges $10 a month per ip :o(

So prohosters seemed like a logical choice for starting new domains.

But it has really turned sour here lately.

lawpal 03-03-2002 09:45 AM

Prohosters is back up again, but read only. No word yet on data loss.

amadman 03-03-2002 10:07 AM

Cool! At least the sites can be accesed now.

lawpal 03-03-2002 10:18 AM

no, no ftp access to remote files. not yet.

amadman 03-03-2002 10:54 AM

Yeah... What I was trying to say was that surfers and spiders can get to it now. :)

Now I need to go change some links back. :(

sakamoto 03-05-2002 11:22 AM

During the transfer to the new array a lot of files got corrupted, the cgi still do not work and the php is all messed up...
frankly that's unacceptable... shit.

theWatsonian 03-05-2002 12:53 PM

I still can't update files. A couple of my sites are missing the damn index page and htaccess is not working.
:mad:

sakamoto 03-05-2002 05:02 PM

Asking support to a Prohosters tech (Dan), after a whole day waiting:

desktop>> any news?
Dan>> i do not have access to help you
Dan>> sorry
desktop>> uh?
desktop>> what does it mean?
desktop>> hey I have been waiting here for houtrs
desktop>> hours
Dan>> I do not work here anymore
desktop>> is it a joke?

:feels-hot

theWatsonian 03-05-2002 05:12 PM

Was it a joke?

Mumble grumble....


:waaaaahh

lawpal 03-05-2002 05:22 PM

They just sent me an email saying that they are not responsible for any lost data.

:ticking

sakamoto 03-05-2002 05:26 PM

I have just discovered that they don't have any backup.. cool!

:ak47: Prohosters

theWatsonian 03-05-2002 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sakamoto
I have just discovered that they don't have any backup.. cool!

What did you expect for 15 bucks a month?
:helpme

theWatsonian 03-05-2002 06:21 PM

:feels-hot
or
:waaaaahh


I'm confused.

:helpme

sakamoto 03-05-2002 06:35 PM

I pay more than 100$ a month... sometimes much more, it depends on b/w

:ugone2far

and yes, I was on water... my fault...

theWatsonian 03-05-2002 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sakamoto
I pay more than 100$ a month... sometimes much more, it depends on b/w

I'm sorry. Too bad no other host will match PH's deal.

sakamoto 03-13-2002 06:33 PM

basically they don't give a fuck about their customers, I have seen techs banning customers from their irc channel for asking support, incredible...

PROHOSTERS :321GFY


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