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Old 09-30-2005, 11:33 PM   #1
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**Panic Attacks** Anxioty... I fuckin have its bad tonight

Does any one get them???

I feel like I'm going to have a full blown heart attack.... I go through this once a month, I know its in my head but WTF can I do to make it chill????
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:34 PM   #2
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I'm getting this shit once a year or so.
nothing you can do there , hope u wasn't alone when it's happened..
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Valium is an excellent anti-axiety medication.
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:40 PM   #4
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Does any one get them???

I feel like I'm going to have a full blown heart attack.... I go through this once a month, I know its in my head but WTF can I do to make it chill????
My bro used to get them a lot. He used to get carted off by the ambulance and shit. Thought he was having a heart attack. A change in lifestyle is how he got them to stop. A former penny stock guy, left that biz and got a job where he didn't rip people off.
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:47 PM   #5
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Go to a doctor and ask him to put you on Propranolol HCL Slow Release 40 or 80 MG
depending on your weight.

It is made for blood pressure but they also use it for stage fright and the snipers in the military use it to shoot calmer.

If you exercise it will make it so you can run your ass off and your heart will
maybe go up to 110 or in my case 90 beats per minute.
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:22 AM   #6
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All good ideas.......... Man, I have to do fucking somehing cause this shit is crazy!!

No natural cure all???

Stress is def an inducer!! But thats part of my life now!!! Maybe I should see a doc
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:23 AM   #7
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Take a xanie and hit the sack.
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The sack is what drives me crazy!! I can't sleep bro, I wake up every 1/2second in heart attack mode( its fucking crazy)
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Old 10-01-2005, 12:28 AM   #9
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nothing you can do there , hope u wasn't alone when it's happened..

All alone man! Thats another thing that fucking sucks
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The sack is what drives me crazy!! I can't sleep bro, I wake up every 1/2second in heart attack mode( its fucking crazy)
I have a friend who got some serious attacks several days a mnth , he went to an specialist and didnt take any medicine for it at all , his advice was to eat more healthy and start to work out , everytime he gots thoose attacks , he went out for a jogging trip and after 4-6 mnths it was gone ! Natural is always best , last solution`s are medicine for sure ! and some also just accept it and let it go when they got it , learn to live with it or do something about it !
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All alone man! Thats another thing that fucking sucks
don't take any chemicals , see what viking1 said.
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All good ideas.......... Man, I have to do fucking somehing cause this shit is crazy!!

No natural cure all???

Stress is def an inducer!! But thats part of my life now!!! Maybe I should see a doc
Panic attacks are HARMLESS. That's the first thing to remember. What they are really are an anxiety attack blown up big time.

Yeah..the reason your heart is beating fast and everything is because for whatever reason, you got freaked out and the adrenaline starting pumping big time because your body is conditioned to the "fight or flight" syndrome that goes back to caveman days to protect you in case of danger. Of course in panic attacks, there's no DISCERNABLE thing threatening you, so there's nothing to fight, and where will you flee to from a non-existent entity?

I used to have them big time..and what I would do is hyper-ventilate. Actually took a couple of classes on this, and MOST people do just that when they have panic attacks..this makes you dizzy and also will make your legs feel wobbly..but there's a very real explanation for that. You are EXHALING all of your carbon dioxide and taking in very short shallow breathes instead of LONG deep breaths..and then taking long deep exhales.

So, for me it was all about my breathing exercises..learning not to do the old "gasping for air" thing basically and instead, just try to concentrate on taking a SLOW breath in and then count from ten to 1 backwards and EXHALE. This allows the cardon dioxide to equalize in your system and will also naturally calm you down.

Don't get hooked on pills..most people can handle anxiety attacks if they KNOW what is going on and really make a point of doing the things that medical experts tell you to do in calming yourself. Hope this helps.

Remember..deep slow breath in..deep slow breath out.
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I have a friend who got some serious attacks several days a mnth , he went to an specialist and didnt take any medicine for it at all , his advice was to eat more healthy and start to work out , everytime he gots thoose attacks , he went out for a jogging trip and after 4-6 mnths it was gone ! Natural is always best , last solution`s are medicine for sure ! and some also just accept it and let it go when they got it , learn to live with it or do something about it !

I Train daily, and lead a very health lifestyle.

I heard (this may be bullshit) that anxioty is just excess energy built up an it effects most people at night when their trying to relax......So maybe your jogging shit might work!!'

Good Post thanks man!!
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learn to breath properly and stop the negative thinking. serioulsy breathing right helps a LOT, and talk to someone, a friend could help ya talk it all out and you will feel sooo much better.
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The solution is a lot simpler than you think. Its actually so simple you're not going to believe it. When you feel anxiety coming on, or if you are actually in a full blown attack you have to tell yourself YOU ENJOY IT. You have to tell yourself it is a good feeling. Picture yourself when you were skiing or on a rollercoaster, or something that caused adrenaline excitement. It is the exact same feeling but you are interpreting it as a bad thing which causes the panic attack. I know it sounds crazy but it works and if you can do this you will never have another panic attack again. The last one I had was 15 years ago and I actually came up with this during an attack and it stopped immediately and that is the last one I've ever had. Since then if I start feeling anxious I just tell myself bring it on, this will be fun, picture myself on a rollercoaster and its goes away as fast as it came.

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Panic attacks are HARMLESS. That's the first thing to remember. What they are really are an anxiety attack blown up big time.

Yeah..the reason your heart is beating fast and everything is because for whatever reason, you got freaked out and the adrenaline starting pumping big time because your body is conditioned to the "fight or flight" syndrome that goes back to caveman days to protect you in case of danger. Of course in panic attacks, there's no DISCERNABLE thing threatening you, so there's nothing to fight, and where will you flee to from a non-existent entity?

I used to have them big time..and what I would do is hyper-ventilate. Actually took a couple of classes on this, and MOST people do just that when they have panic attacks..this makes you dizzy and also will make your legs feel wobbly..but there's a very real explanation for that. You are EXHALING all of your carbon dioxide and taking in very short shallow breathes instead of LONG deep breaths..and then taking long deep exhales.

So, for me it was all about my breathing exercises..learning not to do the old "gasping for air" thing basically and instead, just try to concentrate on taking a SLOW breath in and then count from ten to 1 backwards and EXHALE. This allows the cardon dioxide to equalize in your system and will also naturally calm you down.

Don't get hooked on pills..most people can handle anxiety attacks if they KNOW what is going on and really make a point of doing the things that medical experts tell you to do in calming yourself. Hope this helps.

Remember..deep slow breath in..deep slow breath out.

Thanks man, makes sense...Are you a Doctor?? I never go throug breathing attaks though its more like heart shit its carzy unexplainable! but I Know for a 100% Fact its anxioty and I know its harmless but it still scares the shit out of me!
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I had them too. Am now rid of them.

Drugs are a short term fix, go for the Natural Way.

The best advice on this thread, and what cured me was KNOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING and staying calm.

Get your heart checked out by specialists - maybe two if you want two opinions, and then KNOW that your ticker is ok.

Once you have this knowledge, when you feel an attack coming, just slow breathe and tell yourself that your ticker is ok so stay calm. What helped me was distracting myself - like going to talk to someone so it wouldn't escalate or turning on the TV.

Don't keep a check on you pulse as yes your ticker will be ticking faster and harder and feeling that will only concern you more.

It took me 2 years to get over it - but if I had this advice - It would have been half that.

Hope it goes well for you.

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The solution is a lot simpler than you think. Its actually so simple you're not going to believe it. When you feel anxiety coming on, or if you are actually in a full blown attack you have to tell yourself YOU ENJOY IT. You have to tell yourself it is a good feeling. Picture yourself when you were skiing or on a rollercoaster, or something that caused adrenaline excitement. It is the exact same feeling but you are interpreting it as a bad thing which causes the panic attack. I know it sounds crazy but it works and if you can do this you will never have another panic attack again. The last one I had was 15 years ago and I actually came up with this during an attack and it stopped immediately and that is the last one I've ever had. Since then if I start feeling anxious I just tell myself bring it on, this will be fun, picture myself on a rollercoaster and its goes away as fast as it came.
what about when it breaks you out of a hard ass sleep and jolts your whole fuckning body?(at 1:00am) its hard to mellow out then...But its worth a fucking try
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I had them too. Am now rid of them.

Drugs are a short term fix, go for the Natural Way.

The best advice on this thread, and what cured me was KNOWING WHAT IS HAPPENING and staying calm.

Get your heart checked out by specialists - maybe two if you want two opinions, and then KNOW that your ticker is ok.

Once you have this knowledge, when you feel an attack coming, just slow breathe and tell yourself that your ticker is ok so stay calm. What helped me was distracting myself - like going to talk to someone so it wouldn't escalate or turning on the TV.

Don't keep a check on you pulse as yes your ticker will be ticking faster and harder and feeling that will only concern you more.

It took me 2 years to get over it - but if I had this advice - It would have been half that.

Hope it goes well for you.


Yeah I did that too. I had my heart checked 100x by several diff docs and its perfectly fine according to the "Experts" so I know its menatly induced on my part but its hard overcomming whatever the fuck this wack shit is!!!!!
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Thanks man, makes sense...Are you a Doctor?? I never go throug breathing attaks though its more like heart shit its carzy unexplainable! but I Know for a 100% Fact its anxioty and I know its harmless but it still scares the shit out of me!

No..I'm not a doctor..just someone (like many) who has had first hand experience with this and, like I said..took a couple of classes.

The reason you're heart is pounding is because your whole system is STIMULATED! You've got adrenaline pouring through you big time. Like someone else said if you were on a rollercoaster, your heart would be doing the same thing..but you're trying to SLEEP..so you're asking yourself..wtf is it doing this now? lol

Ain't a lot of rhyme or reason to panic attacks. Honestly, just lie down, and try the breathing exercises..turn on some music..something to help distract you and REALLY TRY to do SLOOOW breaths in and SLOOW breaths out.
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what about when it breaks you out of a hard ass sleep and jolts your whole fuckning body?(at 1:00am) its hard to mellow out then...But its worth a fucking try

You might be suprised to hear that a large % of those that suffer from panic attacks have them while falling asleep or are awakened by them. You're NOT having a heart attack..it aint going to kill you. You've just gotten a little scare..remember that..and remember the breathing excercises.
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Christ, you are annoying. Just fucking have a heart attack already and get over it - if you don't, then you just weren't fit enough to make the cut.

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what about when it breaks you out of a hard ass sleep and jolts your whole fuckning body?(at 1:00am) its hard to mellow out then...But its worth a fucking try

I don't know, never had one in my sleep. I don't know how normal, if you want to call attacks normal, they are to occur during sleep. Could be there are different things tha cause them, but with me I know they would start with feeling anxious and then focusing on the fear thus creating a snowball effect.
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Christ, you are annoying. Just fucking have a heart attack already and get over it - if you don't, then you just weren't fit enough to make the cut.

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Does any one get them???

I feel like I'm going to have a full blown heart attack.... I go through this once a month, I know its in my head but WTF can I do to make it chill????
have sex you'll feel better

if you can't get laid, then rub one out with a nice long j/o session

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My bro used to get them a lot. He used to get carted off by the ambulance and shit. Thought he was having a heart attack. A change in lifestyle is how he got them to stop. A former penny stock guy, left that biz and got a job where he didn't rip people off.
Hey! I never ripped people off!

A few things, before you resort to going on meds...

1) excericise
2) eliminate as much sugar as you can from your diet. this includes corn syrup and all the bullshit
3) RELAX. your heart is beating out of your chest right now cause of something that's in our DNA from caveman days..."flight or fight". see, with OR without knowing it, you're upset about something, and it got so bad your pancreas just BLASTED your blood stream with sugar. FLIGHT OR FIGHT. However, you might...or might NOT...know why. It's a HUGE freak out if you don't know why.

So...excerise. Stay away from sugar. And pinpoint in your life where your stress is coming from. It may take a professional to do this.

And finally, if you're in full blown attack, try to lay down, and breath, and flex, then relax, every muscle in your body. Also take FULL, LUNG FILLING breaths IN and OUT.

Trust me bro, you're gonna be ok.
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I get them in movie theaters too...Alot, Is that fucking normal???
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I don't know, never had one in my sleep. I don't know how normal, if you want to call attacks normal, they are to occur during sleep. Could be there are different things tha cause them, but with me I know they would start with feeling anxious and then focusing on the fear thus creating a snowball effect.

Ever heard of dreams? Remember how WEIRD and scary sometimes DREAMS can be? Could very well have been a dream that kicked off this whole thing.

And yeah..working yourself up will make it snowball..so it's time to unclench the fists and all the other muscles in your body, lay down, do some slow breathing and before you know it you will fall asleep.
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what about when it breaks you out of a hard ass sleep and jolts your whole fuckning body?(at 1:00am) its hard to mellow out then...But its worth a fucking try

Have you ever considered it possible that it also could be low blood sugar? Hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) will have the same effect.
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You can get them anywhere..hell..you just had one in your sleep! Doesn't that show you that it CAN happen anywhere? And at the same time, you can control them ANYWHERE.
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I Know I'll be alright I appreciate everyones input it really helps to talk(or write) about shit!!

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You can get them anywhere..hell..you just had one in your sleep! Doesn't that show you that it CAN happen anywhere? And at the same time, you can control them ANYWHERE.

Honestly Appreciate the support, your knowledge on this subject is great!

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Checked your posts and threads started. You're a fuckin' surfer kid that does attention whore drama queen posts.

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Surf or no surf Bitch, WM or Not I'm asking a fucking question to a serious question, I got a response from people and thats what the fuck I was looking for. Their always has to be a loud mouth punk bitch that has to post some bitch shit to try and look cool..In front of peopol he/she sweats and congrats bitch your it tonight!
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Old 10-01-2005, 01:36 AM   #41
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I know the feeling all too well, when I get them I start to shake and sweat like hell. Heart pounds like crazy.


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Old 10-01-2005, 01:43 AM   #42
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Surf or no surf Bitch, WM or Not I'm asking a fucking question to a serious question, I got a response from people and thats what the fuck I was looking for. Their always has to be a loud mouth punk bitch that has to post some bitch shit to try and look cool..In front of peopol he/she sweats and congrats bitch your it tonight!
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Old 10-01-2005, 01:48 AM   #43
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Just thought I would post a question bro, and guess what it helped. Not to many places I can go at 3:00am et. to get advice, I couldn't sleep so I posted ... Sorry that bothered you!
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Didn't bother me. Just thought that you could get better help elsewhere, but now that GFY is a suicide hotline, I guess we can expect more posts like yours.

Anyway, like I said, no prob..dry out your diapers and come back tomorrow.

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Old 10-01-2005, 02:11 AM   #45
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I get them in movie theaters too...Alot, Is that fucking normal???
Movies also triggered mine big time.

I avoided the movie theatre for about 5 years - even now (10 years later) still don't like movies.

I think they aggrevate the situation becuase they are so immersive and get you very excited / scared etc on a subconcious level (depending on the movie.)

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smoke weed.....you'll won't remember any dream....seriously whenever I start stop
smoking weed...I can remember dreams....whenever I smoke.....I wake up
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Scary shit, use to have them myself, went to the doctor and got some pills. Refuse to take them and started think about my life. To much party, way to much work etc. etc. Started to cut down on sugar, coffee, started to train and take care of myself, now I'm healthy again!

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ah dude. Do this ok

1: Tell yourself that it's all in your head.
2: Tell yourself over and over "It's only a tmporary feeling. It will all be over and ok in a few minutes".
3: Get yourself into a relaxing atmosphere. Get away from the computer. Go put some mellow music on or watch a comedy.

4: VERY IMPORTANT. Go see a doctor. DO not get that Zanax crap. Just ask for Ativan. You don't need Zanax to beat this. Just take an ativan when you feel one comming on. Eventually you'll just grow out of it all.
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You're a fucking idiot.

When you have a mental illness wait until you reach out for help from your peers and we'll all poke fun at you.
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I used to get anxiety attacks in crowded public places when I was younger. People told me they could never tell I was having one because I was so good at covering it up. Covering it up may make everything look fine and dandy to those around you, but it sure sucks keeping it in. What it took for me to get over having panick attacks (haven't had one in years), was negative self-talk. Granted, not everyone has the same outlook on life as I do, but adopting my outlook on life during a panick attack might just work.

Here's what you do. Keep in mind, that this applies to not only panick attacks, but general anxiety as well, be it in a public place, or in your living room when you know you have a meeting in a few hours, etc. Hell, if someone is pissing you the fuck off, and you really want to run them over with your car, it'll work there too. Tell yourself, and don't hold back one bit, that life is pointless. We're born, we live a tough life where most of us have to live paycheck to paycheck, never achieving dreams or really truely living, and then we die.

The earth we live on is a fucking spec in a massive universe, hell, there could be more than one universe, there could be infinite universes. Do you really think anything you ever do will matter? Do you really think anyone will ever remember you, or care that you existed? Everything man does, even those who cure diseases, is pointless, a waste of time. In the entire span of the universe's life time, our planet somehow spawned us. Our planet, and by comparison, our lives, are a spec. Our planet is nice and old, so by comparison, our lives are a millisecond long. Nothing you or I do will ever matter. Your neighbour doesn't matter, your best friend doesn't matter. If you rolled over and died, only the people who know you would care. What is 1 life on a planet of 6 billion people?

If you die in a car accident tommorow, no one will ever remember you. No one will ever care you existed. If someone dies in a car accident tommorow, you won't remember them or care that they died. Human beings are animals, albeit, animals that're arrogant enough to believe they were created by some higher being. As long as you remember that nothing you do will ever matter, that your life is pointless, with no meaning, with no reason behind it, you're invincible. People who spend their time worrying about things are throwing away time they could have used to have fun. Why worry about the meeting in a few hours when you're going to be meeting some friends for lunch?

Think everyone is looking at you? That you somehow stand out? You probably don't, but even if you did, who cares? Great, they're looking at you, and then when you leave their field of vision, they'll forget you ever existed. If you get hit by a car 5 minutes later and end up imbedded in a concrete wall 100 yards away, they wont care. Likewise, if the same happens to them, you won't care either.

Life is pointless, and so are you, so why worry, why panick? What's it going to accomplish? Nothing, just like you. It's impossible to accomplish anything when you have no reason to exist. Mankind has no reason to exist. Never has, never will, but since we're here, whether we like it or not, we have to make the best of this shitfest we were born into.

So basically, that's what I did/do whenever I feel anxiety or panick attacks coming on. It's pointless to panick about something that will never matter, or something that no one will remember or give a shit about. Even if there is other life out there in the universe somewhere, they wont care. By comparison, their existence is just as feeble and meaningless as ours. Even if they know you, personally, exist, they still wont care.

As long as I maintain 100% nihilistic thoughts during anxiety or panick attacks, I can keep them at bay and be perfectly fine
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