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TheDoc · 10-02-2005, 12:55 AM

Can you write HTML by hand?

A good amount of people here seem to know PHP..
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=523067

3M TA3 · 10-02-2005, 12:56 AM

yes, i've tried to use different programs but I always end up writing it myself. I can never get it right from dreamweaver or golive

10-02-2005, 12:57 AM

yes I do

Azlord · 10-02-2005, 12:57 AM

yah. and for the people posting.... DreamWeaver don't count.

syntacks · 10-02-2005, 12:59 AM

i can write by hand but use an editor. saves time.

TheDoc · 10-02-2005, 12:59 AM

I do a mixture.. I can write it by hand but still use an editor to rip through it faster.. I then run the HTML from the editor through a script that cleans it up and puts it into a format that I like.. Once the HTML is clean I never open it in an editor again.

baddog · 10-02-2005, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Can you write HTML by hand?

I have to do it by hand, I could never even figure out how to begin with Dreamweaver.

xlogger · 10-02-2005, 01:01 AM

Yes i do.

I also know a little php. I spend the last 8 hours customizing wordpress.

I am going to college to take php courses (something to do with php) as well. Making script (php) is the one thing im not good at. Might as well go to college and learn it.

baddog · 10-02-2005, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Azlord

yah. and for the people posting.... DreamWeaver don't count.

What do you mean doesn't count? In what way?

TheDoc · 10-02-2005, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

Yes i do.

I also know a little php. I spend the last 8 hours customizing wordpress.

I am going to college to take php courses (something to do with php) as well. Making script (php) is the one thing im not good at. Might as well go to college and learn it.

Wordpress is a bad thing to learn php on... I took wordpress a few months back and changed it to use different directory names and removed the CSS control over the design.. That was fun..

xlogger · 10-02-2005, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog

I have to do it by hand, I could never even figure out how to begin with Dreamweaver.

You know how to do it by hand but not with dreamweaver.

Never heard that before.

TheDoc · 10-02-2005, 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xlogger

You know how to do it by hand but not with dreamweaver.

Never heard that before.

I couldn't figure out dreamweaver, it does to much extra BS.. I have no problems with PS but dreamweaver killed me..

I use WebExpress 3.0, it has no extra bs, it's simple and it isn't to hard to clean up the HTML after it gets done jacking it up.

3M TA3 · 10-02-2005, 01:11 AM

the only thing that dreamweaver is good for is the fact is colorizes different parts of the html code.

especially with php

fuck the layout window, use the code window and the ftp window.

MGPspots · 10-02-2005, 01:12 AM

what works best for me is to use split screen in Dreamweaver. I use the WSIWYG editor in DW and just keep an eye on the HTML in the HTML window. DW normally does a good job but some tasks are better done by manually typing in HTML and some of DW's code needs a tweak now and agiain.

Working in split mode is also a great way to learn HTML

baddog · 10-02-2005, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by xlogger

You know how to do it by hand but not with dreamweaver.

Never heard that before.

My stuff is very basic. I have also attained templates over the years that I can copy or rearrange. If I need something complicated, I fall back on goodgirl. But I can edit existing stuff quite easily.

baddog · 10-02-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc

I couldn't figure out dreamweaver, it does to much extra BS..

precisely . . . . I would turn it on and stare at it not having the foggiest idea what to do next.

KRL · 10-02-2005, 01:15 AM

I hire programmers and coders for complex or time consuming scripts and projects, but enjoy and can write 90% of everything that needs to be done on a site usually myself. I like coding it by hand also. That's the only way to really learn I think.

KMR Stitch · 10-02-2005, 01:16 AM

I know all the basics of HTML. If there is something wrong with a webpage I can fix it with a quickness. So, yes I do know html 90%

Jakke PNG · 10-02-2005, 01:17 AM

I know html and css inside and out.

KMR Stitch · 10-02-2005, 01:19 AM

I don't really know DHTML. It always figured it was a goofy markup for some chicks webpage

Webby · 10-02-2005, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

Can you write HTML by hand?

A good amount of people here seem to know PHP..
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=523067

Mmmmm... I always write html by hand - nasty old habit!!!

But for rough layouts... use Dreamweaver or WYSIWYG editor to get a clue...

xlogger · 10-02-2005, 01:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc

I couldn't figure out dreamweaver, it does to much extra BS.. I have no problems with PS but dreamweaver killed me..

Dreamweaver can be really simple. Just forget about all the addiction things it has. Just use the basic stuff.

If you use something long enough you are will learn it. Thats how i look at things.

Here are the 2 basic things on DW.

the source · 10-02-2005, 01:34 AM

yep. Text Edit.. its the only way to do it!

cool1 · 10-02-2005, 03:25 AM

Notepad is my friend.
started out learning html on notepad, and have never used any other editor except notepad since

Manowar · 10-02-2005, 03:32 AM

yep im just coding some now

evilmaster · 10-02-2005, 05:05 AM

not perfect..
so - "I can edit HTML "

Wilbo · 10-02-2005, 05:10 AM

All the cool kids use FrontPage

wallst · 10-02-2005, 05:16 AM

the real deal about HTML is not if you can write the code line for line - its about understanding what the code does and how it works. the only HTML editing i do usually is cut and paste - works for me just fine.

blackfeet · 10-02-2005, 05:49 AM

old school here. 100% html. by the time i try to figure out a program, i could have finished my project using html.

cranki · 10-02-2005, 05:52 AM

notepad 4 life!

Basic_man · 10-02-2005, 05:54 AM

I know alot in HTML, and a bit in PHP. Viva Dreamweaver who can do it for you

u-Bob · 10-02-2005, 06:01 AM

pico rules

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soukee · 10-02-2005, 06:04 AM

Of yourse I know

stfuvt · 10-02-2005, 06:48 AM

i know too

BeatingSkull · 10-02-2005, 06:59 AM

100% yes.

the code itself is what interested in me in this biz in the first place. back in 1998 during my very first time on the internet i discovered the view source , upon seeing this i became very curious so started to explore it, then bought some books for it, html for dummies, then read everything i could find. pretty much have it all memorized now that it's been so long.
but once in a while this old fossils brain forgets a thing or two & has to look it up. i never forget the basics, but do forget certain javascript attributes so have to look those up.

only code types i dont know how to write are php/mysql cgi, asp, ssi & the code for wireless devices. i have out code through dreamweaver to convert to xml for wireless, but it sure likes to fuck things. but i like to see code view & compare the notepad version with html to the dreamweaver xml version to learn the differences. i'm getting there.

mikeet · 10-02-2005, 07:10 AM

Yep, fully.. but most of the time i like to use an editor

Fred Quimby · 10-02-2005, 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilbo

All the cool kids use FrontPage

Word to ya mother

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-02-2005, 07:24 AM

hand code in dreamweaver...if i dont know what to look for when something is fucked up..what good is the program going to do me. Basic html is a damn good thing to know and isnt that hard

Holly · 10-02-2005, 08:02 AM

Yeah. Back in the day I did everything in notepad before I ran across Frontpage and then DW.

Coyote · 10-02-2005, 08:06 AM

Always. Started back in the early 80's with Bookmaster when I wrote manuals for IBM. Been doin' it that way ever since. ZendIDE and UltraEdit are my editors of choice.

Furious_Male · 10-02-2005, 08:07 AM

notepad.exe

I have however started using FP over the past couple of years to get things done quicker.

StuartD · 10-02-2005, 08:52 AM

yup, html, dhtml, coldfusion and php here... by hand.

jukeboxfrank · 10-02-2005, 09:02 AM

I know both, hand and WYSIWYG But I must say I use little hand anymore.
I think hand is to web as jerking off is to sex. Better to do it with a women.

Martin · 10-02-2005, 09:04 AM

Enough to get by.

Violetta · 10-02-2005, 09:04 AM

I use both code view and design view in dreamviewer!

suesheboy · 10-02-2005, 09:05 AM

Notepad baby!

selena · 10-02-2005, 09:20 AM

I started in adult thinking I would hand code everything. I decided pretty quickly that it wouldn't kill me to learn Dreamweaver.

But I am very glad I know how to hand code. It helps alot if a table isn't working right, a tag is fucked up, etc.

blackmonsters · 10-02-2005, 09:31 AM

I use Notepad.

I once tried Frontpage but then I realized that I could learn HTML faster then I could learn Frontpage. And back in the day Frontpage fucked up a lot of code anyway.

The HTML books seem long but they are acutally quite short. There's a lot of repetitive information in those books that makes it seem like a lot.

poppet · 10-02-2005, 09:34 AM

Dreamweaver DOES count. I hand-code my stuff then switch over to take a peek at what I've got thus far.

bakla · 10-02-2005, 09:35 AM

View Poll Results: Do you know HTML?
Yep, fully..	82	70.09%
I can edit HTML	28	23.93%
Nope, I use an editor..	7	5.98%
Voters: 117. You may not vote on this poll

10-02-2005, 12:55 AM	#1
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	Do you know HTML? Can you write HTML by hand? A good amount of people here seem to know PHP.. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=523067 __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

10-02-2005, 12:56 AM	#2
3M TA3 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,972	yes, i've tried to use different programs but I always end up writing it myself. I can never get it right from dreamweaver or golive __________________ Dedicated and colo hosting: ICQ 291313057 "A problem cannot be solved from the same consciousness that created it. We must learn to see the world anew." - Albert Einstein

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10-02-2005, 12:59 AM	#6
TheDoc Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Currently Incognito Posts: 13,827	I do a mixture.. I can write it by hand but still use an editor to rip through it faster.. I then run the HTML from the editor through a script that cleans it up and puts it into a format that I like.. Once the HTML is clean I never open it in an editor again. __________________ ~TheDoc - ICQ7765825 It's all disambiguation

10-02-2005, 12:57 AM	#4
Azlord Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: City... City of Satan Posts: 2,651	yah. and for the people posting.... DreamWeaver don't count.

10-02-2005, 01:01 AM	#8
xlogger Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NY Posts: 9,507	Yes i do. I also know a little php. I spend the last 8 hours customizing wordpress. I am going to college to take php courses (something to do with php) as well. Making script (php) is the one thing im not good at. Might as well go to college and learn it. __________________ ---------- XLOGGER [REFLECTED] [OH]

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3M TA3 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: So Cal Posts: 2,972	the only thing that dreamweaver is good for is the fact is colorizes different parts of the html code. especially with php fuck the layout window, use the code window and the ftp window. __________________ Dedicated and colo hosting: ICQ 291313057 "A problem cannot be solved from the same consciousness that created it. We must learn to see the world anew." - Albert Einstein

10-02-2005, 01:12 AM	#14
MGPspots Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 422	what works best for me is to use split screen in Dreamweaver. I use the WSIWYG editor in DW and just keep an eye on the HTML in the HTML window. DW normally does a good job but some tasks are better done by manually typing in HTML and some of DW's code needs a tweak now and agiain. Working in split mode is also a great way to learn HTML __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

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10-02-2005, 01:16 AM	#18
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	I know all the basics of HTML. If there is something wrong with a webpage I can fix it with a quickness. So, yes I do know html 90%

10-02-2005, 01:17 AM	#19
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	I know html and css inside and out. __________________ ..and I'm off.

10-02-2005, 01:19 AM	#20
KMR Stitch I am cool Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14,494	I don't really know DHTML. It always figured it was a goofy markup for some chicks webpage

10-02-2005, 01:34 AM	#23
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cool1 sex is good Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Carman, MB Canada Posts: 24,939	Notepad is my friend. started out learning html on notepad, and have never used any other editor except notepad since __________________

10-02-2005, 03:32 AM	#25
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	yep im just coding some now

10-02-2005, 05:05 AM	#26
evilmaster Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,281	not perfect.. so - "I can edit HTML "

10-02-2005, 05:10 AM	#27
Wilbo Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Baltimore Posts: 2,082	All the cool kids use FrontPage

10-02-2005, 05:16 AM	#28
wallst Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: South East Posts: 1,621	the real deal about HTML is not if you can write the code line for line - its about understanding what the code does and how it works. the only HTML editing i do usually is cut and paste - works for me just fine. __________________ Earl Miller Cash 20th Congress

10-02-2005, 05:49 AM	#29
blackfeet Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 589	old school here. 100% html. by the time i try to figure out a program, i could have finished my project using html.

10-02-2005, 05:52 AM	#30
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BeatingSkull Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: The Confederate States of America Posts: 713	100% yes. the code itself is what interested in me in this biz in the first place. back in 1998 during my very first time on the internet i discovered the view source , upon seeing this i became very curious so started to explore it, then bought some books for it, html for dummies, then read everything i could find. pretty much have it all memorized now that it's been so long. but once in a while this old fossils brain forgets a thing or two & has to look it up. i never forget the basics, but do forget certain javascript attributes so have to look those up. only code types i dont know how to write are php/mysql cgi, asp, ssi & the code for wireless devices. i have out code through dreamweaver to convert to xml for wireless, but it sure likes to fuck things. but i like to see code view & compare the notepad version with html to the dreamweaver xml version to learn the differences. i'm getting there. __________________ "Every Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday in October PussyCash will pay you a $100 FOR EVERY IMLIVE SIGN-UP you refer"

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10-02-2005, 09:04 AM	#45
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