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Old 09-28-2005, 05:42 PM   #1
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Is there anyone here who ISN'T owed money from.......

something that you got yourself into or someone that didn't live up to their end of the deal in the adult space.?

i know i am owed money from a few different sources. i don;t name names though, they gotta deal with me, not gfy.

or, did you pick a winner right out of the gate every single time?

i'm curious.

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Old 09-28-2005, 05:44 PM   #2
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:45 PM   #3
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All the way back to good ole Seth.
Then of course I can not forget MCI, nor a few billing companies.
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Couple people that have flaked or scamed me.
Crap like that.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:47 PM   #4
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Bro, I am going to pay you back, just give me a little time
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:49 PM   #6
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:51 PM   #7
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:52 PM   #8
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Just_Dave sez he's gonna take a dump in your Fleshlight if you don't make good pronto Ramos (btw, you didn't hear it from me).

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Old 09-28-2005, 05:53 PM   #9
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:54 PM   #10
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:58 PM   #11
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Countless affiliate programs that either closed or I never met the minimum payout since I was not about to send more good traffic at shit just to try to make that one more sale at a ratio of like 1:15000 or so
i agree with you... there should be a one month or two month cutoff where if you do not make the min. payout amount they send you whatever you are owed... i probably have a few hundred sitting in various programs that i have yet to be paid out on.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:09 PM   #12
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I'm not owed any moeny, but I'm just getting started too. It will happen, I'm sure. Give me time.
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:11 PM   #13
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:14 PM   #14
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:18 PM   #15
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:19 PM   #16
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companies that no longer exist owe, but I wrote them off so long ago I don't even remember their names
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:23 PM   #17
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i agree with you... there should be a one month or two month cutoff where if you do not make the min. payout amount they send you whatever you are owed... i probably have a few hundred sitting in various programs that i have yet to be paid out on.
interesting. maybe the industry should look at this.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:24 PM   #18
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:25 PM   #19
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None. I watch it like a hawk, and only enter into partnerships with people I have a personal relationship with that I trust.

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Old 09-28-2005, 07:28 PM   #20
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:35 PM   #21
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I am owed money from a dialer company. (reseller) zitk dialers/tibs 1000.00ish
I am owed money by a shitty designer. 900.00ish
I am owed money from cecash About 130.00
I am owed money from freezinbucks/hawgs cash 110.00 ish
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definitely, and the tab is rising but i am never gonna get paid on this one.
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:56 PM   #23
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umm dont think i havent been paid yet but i know i have been shorted some money more then once
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:00 PM   #25
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:20 PM   #27
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:21 PM   #28
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:47 PM   #29
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i just write stuff off as a learning experience. plus i have a big mouth, if someone owes me then everyone will know basically.
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:55 PM   #30
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Sure and i will name names:

Pay Pal ......fucking wankers
Iball's .......cost us a bundle
Oh and a model manager who stole $2000.00 in lighting equipment and fraudulent credit card transactions. We know where he lives so that's coming back to daddy real soon, believe me! Then i will post his name on every site i can find. Fucking ass wipe
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:55 PM   #31
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Well, back when i was mailing i made like $500 in one day from sexsearch. Since it wasnt opt-in they canned me.

It was my falt though so i dont really care.
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$40 from that James White meth head, but that wasn't adult related shit

not one single person in the world of adult owes me money...knock on wood
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not just in adult, i got ripped for 5k a made with one affiliate program when i first started who just never paid me and never responded to me...about 10k when dialers came out and the ftc froze their assets or whatever happened. small bits here and there from companies who just turned scammy i guess, 280, 300, ect. nothing too much. another 5k for some custom software that never worked and most recently 8k or so i made with a guy who does casino stuff who ignores me now. all of these happened over the course of 7 years tho.
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None. I watch it like a hawk, and only enter into partnerships with people I have a personal relationship with that I trust.

(knocks on wood)
That means shit. I have been fucked by those ppl as well...

There is only 1 person you can trust in this biz... YOURSELF
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I for one am batting 1000

First we started a paysite with processing by DMR. That didn't work out too well.

Then we sent all our traffic to Xpics. They got closed down.

So then we sent all our traffic to Busty Amateurs. Bummer

Then we sent it all to Making Bank to get $42 per signup. Damn

So then we moved our hosting to Like Whoa and pushed their paysite program All Liquid. Double Damn

Then we started another paysite with processing by globill. Shit

After that we decided we needed one of the big 3 processors so we went with Ibill. Double Shit

Then we started sending all of our traffic to Boob Dollars. Triple Shit

So in summation, after 7 years in the business and over 10K signups, we still haven't received one fucking check.



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borrowing money is not actually my thing, probably because of pride, and plus I have been very fortunate to have a good paying job. right now a close friend owes me money. do you guys think money destroys friendship?
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borrowing money is not actually my thing, probably because of pride, and plus I have been very fortunate to have a good paying job. right now a close friend owes me money. do you guys think money destroys friendship?
No it never should.....whenever I give money to someone I assume I won't
get it back....that way I can't be dissapointed.......if I can't afford to lose it
then I don't give it in the first place......so whenever I get it back....
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:53 AM   #44
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First we started a paysite with processing by DMR. That didn't work out too well.

Then we sent all our traffic to Xpics. They got closed down.

So then we sent all our traffic to Busty Amateurs. Bummer

Then we sent it all to Making Bank to get $42 per signup. Damn

So then we moved our hosting to Like Whoa and pushed their paysite program All Liquid. Double Damn

Then we started another paysite with processing by globill. Shit

After that we decided we needed one of the big 3 processors so we went with Ibill. Double Shit

Then we started sending all of our traffic to Boob Dollars. Triple Shit

So in summation, after 7 years in the business and over 10K signups, we still haven't received one fucking check.



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Until very recently I hadn't had that problem but yah I have picked some bad ones too Although in regards to me having bad feelings with those people someone said this to me:

"In this industry you should not judge on what goes wrong only on how well that person fixes it for you."

I think that is fitting!
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(knocks on wood)

i try to do that now, but i have been fucked over by a few people that i have known like that. it used to be a cloudy subject for me mixing friends and business, but i draw the line very well now. biz is biz and friends is friends. it keeps it all seperated. if people can't seperate the two then they normally don't end up working with me.
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Was watching that yesterday. Fucking great film..

But yes unfortunately I have been burned as well only in the $300-800 margin though, it's still cash I could of done with..
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I am owed 100 bucks for some traffic i bought and the guy never even owned the mgp.. Ironically hes asking me for a job now. Secondly, I had some work done by a person who shall remain nameless, but needless to say the work was not on time, and had alot of errors. I have used this person before and deadlines were always a problem, however the workmanship was great. This time it was crap, and i even paid the entire amount up front in a show of good faith so I could have the deadlines met.
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