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J-Reel · 09-19-2005, 04:55 PM

Damn my XL2 is getting old fast. Anyone got 9 grand I can borrow.

Canon entered the HDV camera fray by announcing the XL H1. The new camera looks like a black version of the XL1 or XL2 with a few extra buttons and features. It's built around three 1/3-inch native 16:9 CCDs with a resolution of 1440 x 1080.

The XL H1 shoots 60i and two Frame modes of 30f and 24f. The Frame mode is similar to early Canon digital camcorders--it's not technically a progressive frame because the CCDs aren't progressive, but fields are interpolated and reinterlaced in Canon's proprietary method to allow the "f" frames to behave just like "p" frames during postproduction. Canon representatives said their method would work much better than other manufacturers' attempts at 24p-like HDV (read Sony).

The hefty camcorder comes with an interchangeable 20 X HD video zoom lens with Optical Image Stabilization. Representatives weren't stating lens resolution figures as of press time, but f-stop ranges from f/1.6 to f/3.5. Focusing distance at wide angle is just 20 mm. It will be interesting to compare the quality of this lens with the Fujinon lens that comes with the JVC HD100 HDV camcorder, the closest competitor to the XL H1 in features and price. Stay tuned for more on that comparison in a future issue of DV.

Although it sounds like an option, Canon's "professional jackpack" is built into every XL H1 and provides some of the most unique features of the camera. It enables uncompressed digital HD-SDI 60i output, Genlock, and SMPTE timecode in and out. The combination of these three features will interest broadcasters who haven't considered Canon cameras before, potentially opening up a new market segment for Canon.

The XL H1 is the first camera to use Canon's proprietary Digic DV II image processor for HD, SD, and still photo processing. It records to HDV or miniDV tapes.

Building on a trend started with the XL2, Canon lets this camera's users customize recording parameters such as color matrix, cine gamma, color gain, hue, master color, knee, black stretch, horizontal detail, sharpness, and noise reduction. For $599 extra, Canon is also releasing Console image control software, which remotely controls camera settings and provides on-set image analysis tools in the same vein as Serious Magic DV Rack. Camera profiles can be stored to flash disk and used to set up other cameras.

The camera can also serve as a still camera in two different modes. Pictures can be snapped while the camera is running, sending 1920 x 1080 dpi 2.1-megapixel images with recording info metadata to standard Secure Digital (SD) or MMC media cards. If the camera is switched into photo-only mode, it can capture up to 5 frames per second, and EOS flash units can even be used.

The XL H1 camcorder with the 20 X HD lens will be available in November 2005 for an estimated selling price of $8,999.

Sosa · 09-19-2005, 04:57 PM

damn looks nice. Should for 9k

Peace · 09-19-2005, 06:17 PM

Sony as good as this? I am looking to buy sony for around 3000

Red Ezra · 09-19-2005, 08:21 PM

damn - gotta get it

Asiantreat · 09-19-2005, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace

Sony as good as this? I am looking to buy sony for around 3000

Depending on what you need it for. Sony's not as good as this Canon, of course, but it's also a helluva lot cheaper than the Canon.

LiveDose · 09-19-2005, 09:17 PM

Wow, that looks sweet!

tony286 · 09-19-2005, 09:18 PM

I would wait til people start getting them and there is feedback. www.dvxuser.com has a whole forum just for that camera.

reed_4 · 09-20-2005, 12:38 AM

I want to have one of that.

that one looks great.

phonesex · 09-20-2005, 12:39 AM

very nice. Time to party

Ace-wtf · 09-20-2005, 02:14 AM

looks great
9 grand you say?

yellowmenace · 09-20-2005, 02:32 AM

nice camera..why not go with a sony?

Validus · 09-20-2005, 04:00 AM

OH MY GOD. THAT IS INSANE.

Why the Canon XL opposed to the Sony? Easy, you can change lenses on the Canon.

The XL1 got its popularity through the first Iraq war, it was the most used camera. One tough piece of equipment. At least that is what I was told in college.

Validus · 09-20-2005, 04:05 AM

Oh my god, I am in love again!

reynold · 09-20-2005, 05:44 AM

I'd hit it!

Nydahl · 09-20-2005, 05:50 AM

FUCK I am real idiot to buy that Sony HDV shit - Sony sucks indeed

tranza · 09-20-2005, 07:49 AM

damn, looks real nice!

09-19-2005, 04:55 PM	#1
J-Reel Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Boneprone's guest house Posts: 3,782	Canon's new HDV camera Damn my XL2 is getting old fast. Anyone got 9 grand I can borrow. Canon entered the HDV camera fray by announcing the XL H1. The new camera looks like a black version of the XL1 or XL2 with a few extra buttons and features. It's built around three 1/3-inch native 16:9 CCDs with a resolution of 1440 x 1080. The XL H1 shoots 60i and two Frame modes of 30f and 24f. The Frame mode is similar to early Canon digital camcorders--it's not technically a progressive frame because the CCDs aren't progressive, but fields are interpolated and reinterlaced in Canon's proprietary method to allow the "f" frames to behave just like "p" frames during postproduction. Canon representatives said their method would work much better than other manufacturers' attempts at 24p-like HDV (read Sony). The hefty camcorder comes with an interchangeable 20 X HD video zoom lens with Optical Image Stabilization. Representatives weren't stating lens resolution figures as of press time, but f-stop ranges from f/1.6 to f/3.5. Focusing distance at wide angle is just 20 mm. It will be interesting to compare the quality of this lens with the Fujinon lens that comes with the JVC HD100 HDV camcorder, the closest competitor to the XL H1 in features and price. Stay tuned for more on that comparison in a future issue of DV. Although it sounds like an option, Canon's "professional jackpack" is built into every XL H1 and provides some of the most unique features of the camera. It enables uncompressed digital HD-SDI 60i output, Genlock, and SMPTE timecode in and out. The combination of these three features will interest broadcasters who haven't considered Canon cameras before, potentially opening up a new market segment for Canon. The XL H1 is the first camera to use Canon's proprietary Digic DV II image processor for HD, SD, and still photo processing. It records to HDV or miniDV tapes. Building on a trend started with the XL2, Canon lets this camera's users customize recording parameters such as color matrix, cine gamma, color gain, hue, master color, knee, black stretch, horizontal detail, sharpness, and noise reduction. For $599 extra, Canon is also releasing Console image control software, which remotely controls camera settings and provides on-set image analysis tools in the same vein as Serious Magic DV Rack. Camera profiles can be stored to flash disk and used to set up other cameras. The camera can also serve as a still camera in two different modes. Pictures can be snapped while the camera is running, sending 1920 x 1080 dpi 2.1-megapixel images with recording info metadata to standard Secure Digital (SD) or MMC media cards. If the camera is switched into photo-only mode, it can capture up to 5 frames per second, and EOS flash units can even be used. The XL H1 camcorder with the 20 X HD lens will be available in November 2005 for an estimated selling price of $8,999. __________________ Scheck out the new girls at www.hawtmoney.com ICQ 177-447-671

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09-19-2005, 04:57 PM	#2
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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I would wait til people start getting them and there is feedback. www.dvxuser.com has a whole forum just for that camera.

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Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	OH MY GOD. THAT IS INSANE. Why the Canon XL opposed to the Sony? Easy, you can change lenses on the Canon. The XL1 got its popularity through the first Iraq war, it was the most used camera. One tough piece of equipment. At least that is what I was told in college.

09-20-2005, 04:05 AM	#13
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