Originally Posted by Mako

Top Gear test results are done in varying weather conditions, and according to Jeremy Clarkson himself "should not be used to compare the cars beyond entertainment purposes". Sorry you took those seriously, it's not your fault.

However, all hope isn't lost. Here are a few test results that were performed in a controlled environment by pro drivers, since you seem to like that sort of thing, that show just how competent a Gallardo is.

Which of course, you wouldn't know, because you haven't driven one. You're an armchair benchracer. I'm not. :)

Nordschleiffe Nurburgring Times - Full Course
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1,
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)
7:56* -- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting ?Performance?, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
8:01 -- 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
8:06 --- 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)


Anyone else want to play Benchracer and run their mouth about cars they've never driven? Hmmm? Anyone out there?

Moral of the story: DON'T ASSUME. And don't form your opinions from "a magazine". Drive the cars in real life, then flap your gums.

Originally Posted by Mako

Top Gear test results are done in varying weather conditions, and according to Jeremy Clarkson himself "should not be used to compare the cars beyond entertainment purposes". Sorry you took those seriously, it's not your fault.

However, all hope isn't lost. Here are a few test results that were performed in a controlled environment by pro drivers, since you seem to like that sort of thing, that show just how competent a Gallardo is.

Which of course, you wouldn't know, because you haven't driven one. You're an armchair benchracer. I'm not. :)

Nordschleiffe Nurburgring Times - Full Course
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1,
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)
7:56* -- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting ?Performance?, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
8:01 -- 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
8:06 --- 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)


Anyone else want to play Benchracer and run their mouth about cars they've never driven? Hmmm? Anyone out there?

Moral of the story: DON'T ASSUME. And don't form your opinions from "a magazine". Drive the cars in real life, then flap your gums.

Originally Posted by WarChild

Wow, and would you look at that .. Both the C5Z06 and C6Z51 did it faster than the Evo. Around a track too! Never mind what professional drivers show as their results, I'm more inclined to believe someone who saw an Evo beat a corvette one time. :winkwink:

Originally Posted by smack

show some pics of you next to your gallardo then. :glug

i wanna see those.

toss in a gfy shirt just for fun.

Originally Posted by smack

yeah, read my post above yours. that is an evo ix. not an evo viii fq 400.

big difference. bout 100 horsepower difference to be specific.

Originally Posted by smack

as a side not, now you are bending the results.

the evo they tested wasn't a ix. is was an viii fq 400.

and the gallardo wasn't an e gear.

so i really don't see how anything you just showed me is relavant.

Originally Posted by Mako

Not going to bite, my current cars are a 2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe, and a 2001 NSX-T. I participate in local events with several exotic car clubs, and have driven dozens of cars on track at speed, including every Lamborghini and Ferrari currently made, with the exception of the F430, which I'm due to drive at our next one.

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

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Originally Posted by Mako

There you go again...

The Gallardo was an e-Gear model, driven by SportAuto last year. How do I know? The owner of the car is a member at www.lambo-power.com, which is a message board I moderate, lol.

I never made any claim about any "FQ 400", and my results are simply listed in order. I included the EVO 9 because it's a solid car.

Lighten up.

Originally Posted by smack

that's why i wasn't replying to you, i was replying to warchild.

Originally Posted by WarChild

I'm still waiting to here about your extensive experience with owning Sportscars. You don't want to tell us?

Originally Posted by Makingcoin

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Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Here's what makes me laugh about people knocking imports.

Some say it's chinese and japanese crap. Well, China only makes "Smart Car" as far as I know.

Secondly. While Honda and Toyota may be Japanese owned companies the cars you buy in north america are as american as your dodge rams and hummers and even more so. Let me explain for those who have way too much pride and heritage (it's a car, an object cannot have heritage btw).

A Honda Civic is more american than most "American" vehicles on the road today.

Practically the entire Honda and even Toyota lines are all Engineered and manufactured in Canada and the US. the European Honda division is Japanese engineered though.

90% of American vehicles use parts that were asembled and engineered in South Korea, Mexico, Brazil, Cuba, Japan, China and Malaysia. Even the design teams and engineering teams of the concept vehicles created before mass production are foreigners living in the United States and in Canada or the designs are import inspired and/or engineered through outsources engineering firms owner and/or lcoated offshore.

So take your "Good ol american muscle and heritage" and shove it up your ass people.

A car is a fucking car. Just because a car is a Honda does not mean it's rice.

Originally Posted by WarChild

IwantChix: You say domestic motors are not reliable, not one bit?

I've put over 100,000 Kilometers total on two LS1 engines. The only problem I ever had with either car was a bad gas gauge and a dead battery in the Corvette. Otherwise, no problems at all, and I drove my cars hard.

Now please tell me about your personal experience with high kilometers on new domestic V8 engines.

Originally Posted by Mako

Nordschleiffe Nurburgring Times - Full Course
7:45* -- 159.484 km/h -- McLaren F1,
7:50 --- 157.787 km/h -- Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)
7:52 --- 157.119 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
7:54 --- 156.456 km/h -- Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)
7:56 --- 155.798 km/h -- Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)
7:56* -- 155.798 km/h -- Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ,company chief engineer Dave Hill (*mfr.)
7:59 --- 154.822 km/h -- Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting hahaha8220;Performancehahaha8221;, (Walter Roehrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)
7:59* -- 154.822 km/h -- Chevrolet C6 Z51, company test driver Dave Hill (*mfr.)
8:01 -- 153.984 km/h -- Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:03 --- 153.540 km/h -- Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)
8:04 --- 153.223 km/h -- Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)
8:05 --- 152.907 km/h -- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)
8:06 --- 152.592 km/h -- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
8:06 --- 152.589 km/h -- Subaru WRX Sti C-spec (Best Motoring video "Carrera Invasion")
8:07 --- 152.279 km/h -- Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)
8:09 --- 151.656 km/h -- Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)
8:10 --- 151.114 km/h -- Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)
8:11 --- 151,274 km/h -- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (Best Motoring video 14)

Originally Posted by iwantchixx

Unitl v-techs engage? It's doing it's magic all the time. Retiming the valves dependant on rpm.

But yeah, it does looka wesome. the tach is what got me.