AGAIN!!! : U.S. Deploys Slide Show to Press Case Against Iran - GoFuckYourself.com

directfiesta · 09-13-2005, 09:50 PM

looks like a fucking replay...
I tought that the new season was starting now ...

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UNITED NATIONS, Sept. 13 -- With an hour-long slide show that blends satellite imagery with disquieting assumptions about Iran's nuclear energy program, Bush administration officials have been trying to convince allies that Tehran is on a fast track toward nuclear weapons.

The PowerPoint briefing, titled "A History of Concealment and Deception," has been presented to diplomats from more than a dozen countries. Several diplomats said the presentation, intended to win allies for increasing pressure on the Iranian government, dismisses ambiguities in the evidence about Iran's intentions and omits alternative explanations under debate among intelligence analysts.

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Several diplomats said the slide show reminded them of the flawed presentation on Iraq's weapons programs made by then-secretary of state Colin L. Powell to the U.N. Security Council in February 2003. "I don't think they'll lose any support, but it isn't going to win anyone either," said one European diplomat who attended the recent briefing and whose country backs the U.S. position on Iran.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...v=rss_politics

Fucking Amazing ....

Webby · 09-13-2005, 11:28 PM

For this to come from an Admin who never seem to grasp or recognize that they fucked up so badly over their "assessment" on Iraq (and almost every other thing, both domestic and foreign), makes the whole thing just laughable. The "quality" in the leadership asylum is 110% insane, but always with the typical crass Washington agenda. Dream on!

The presentation should have be titled, "How To Not Win Friends And Have Nada Influence". Fortunately, the world don't revolve around what an idiot US Admin thinks - thank God.

MetroPornTour · 09-13-2005, 11:42 PM

I just have one question.

The united states is accusing all these different nations of having weapons of Mass Destruction and demanding they get rid of them.

So does that mean the United States nuclear arsenaults are weapons of Mass Peace?

Or am I the only one that views this as hypocritical and wonders, "where does a country with nukes get off saying another country can't have nukes?"

Pleasurepays · 09-13-2005, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

I just have one question.

The united states is accusing all these different nations of having weapons of Mass Destruction and demanding they get rid of them.

So does that mean the United States nuclear arsenaults are weapons of Mass Peace?

Or am I the only one that views this as hypocritical and wonders, "where does a country with nukes get off saying another country can't have nukes?"

dont confuse "hypocrisy" with "interests"

1) there are international agreements regarding arms proliferation, inspection etc etc and all this goes back a half a century - not a few years.

2) you can't fully disarm the US without fully disarming Russia being that the only deterrence to nuclear war is the idea of "mutually assured distruction" and its just the way it is.

3) fuck iran. the world is not going to be a better place with a 3rd world, unstable, nuclear theocracy/dictatorship.

4) the UN has tried and tried and tried to get involved with iran issue as well as the IAEA and all Iran does is lie about it. if the UN knows its a serious issue that demands the attention of the UN as does the IAEA... then someone has to be the ones to draw attention to it and get some action taken in the UN is not willing to grow some balls.

5) its really unfortuneate that the same idiots are trying to make the case against Iran as did against Iraq. thats a little insane to me. but it does not either change or diminish the seriousness of the issues at hand.

Webby · 09-13-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

I just have one question.

The united states is accusing all these different nations of having weapons of Mass Destruction and demanding they get rid of them.

So does that mean the United States nuclear arsenaults are weapons of Mass Peace?

Or am I the only one that views this as hypocritical and wonders, "where does a country with nukes get off saying another country can't have nukes?"

That started years back when only the "approved countries" - (read "us"), were allowed by the "us committee" that "they" can't have nukes.

But.. in the middle, there is a vicious war between "us" to sell as much arms as possible to "them" - but not to sell em nukes, - cos it's bad for "them".

It's ironic that there are weapons inspections on "their" countries while others (read "us" again), - especially those who have more fucking nukes than anyone, - are excluded from inspections, but the first in line to whine like hell about "them".

Instablilty of a nation is, no doubt, a reason for no nukes, - but ya wonder who is stable with good judgement and who not?? There sure is little evidence of it around!

MetroPornTour · 09-16-2005, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

dont confuse "hypocrisy" with "interests"

1) there are international agreements regarding arms proliferation, inspection etc etc and all this goes back a half a century - not a few years.

2) you can't fully disarm the US without fully disarming Russia being that the only deterrence to nuclear war is the idea of "mutually assured distruction" and its just the way it is.

3) fuck iran. the world is not going to be a better place with a 3rd world, unstable, nuclear theocracy/dictatorship.

4) the UN has tried and tried and tried to get involved with iran issue as well as the IAEA and all Iran does is lie about it. if the UN knows its a serious issue that demands the attention of the UN as does the IAEA... then someone has to be the ones to draw attention to it and get some action taken in the UN is not willing to grow some balls.

5) its really unfortuneate that the same idiots are trying to make the case against Iran as did against Iraq. thats a little insane to me. but it does not either change or diminish the seriousness of the issues at hand.

As far as an "unstable,nuclear theocracy/dictatorship" is concerned I don't see much difference from the "American-democratic-4-year-term-dictator" with his "imperialistic, hyper patriotic nation." (((But thats my personal opinion and no one needs to share or agree with it.)))

If you ask me,
Until the U.S.A gets rid of its Nukes. I don't care how "stable" it claims to be. The States has no fucking right to demand other nations to disarm. Set a fucking example and be the first to dismantle.

Otherwise, you're no better than a crack user giving a speach to children about not doing recreational drugs. Because all you really want is to be the only one with the dope supply.

abadfish · 09-16-2005, 02:03 AM

I seriously hope not... has it been 8 years yet?

broke · 09-16-2005, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MetroPornTour

Otherwise, you're no better than a crack user giving a speach to children about not doing recreational drugs. Because all you really want is to be the only one with the dope supply.

There's a revelation!

You mean to tell me the US's ideal number of nuclear powers is 1? Way to go out on a limb...

MetroPornTour · 09-16-2005, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by broke

There's a revelation!

You mean to tell me the US's ideal number of nuclear powers is 1? Way to go out on a limb...

Yup. Look at how the United States conducts itself. Then tell me that any reasonably thoughtful intelligent person wouldn't come to the same conclusion.

09-13-2005, 11:28 PM	#2
Webby Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Far far away - as possible Posts: 14,956	For this to come from an Admin who never seem to grasp or recognize that they fucked up so badly over their "assessment" on Iraq (and almost every other thing, both domestic and foreign), makes the whole thing just laughable. The "quality" in the leadership asylum is 110% insane, but always with the typical crass Washington agenda. Dream on! The presentation should have be titled, "How To Not Win Friends And Have Nada Influence". Fortunately, the world don't revolve around what an idiot US Admin thinks - thank God. __________________ XXX TLD's - Another mosquito to swat.

09-13-2005, 11:42 PM	#3
MetroPornTour Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,043	I just have one question. The united states is accusing all these different nations of having weapons of Mass Destruction and demanding they get rid of them. So does that mean the United States nuclear arsenaults are weapons of Mass Peace? Or am I the only one that views this as hypocritical and wonders, "where does a country with nukes get off saying another country can't have nukes?" __________________ ICQ: 335-670-081 \| L.A.: 213 985 2352 Metroporntour is operated by people that didn't do the Job they were contracted for! Click my image for my official website

09-16-2005, 02:03 AM	#7
abadfish Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: WA Posts: 1,482	I seriously hope not... has it been 8 years yet? __________________ Reanna Mae