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Teen tranny killed in California
The murder is old, the court findings are from today though.... Some may argue that she had it coming to her by fooling these guys, but I know, that they just want to be treated and live their life like women, the way they believe they were meant to be..... You all who don't truly understand transgendered ppl will simply say she had it coming... whatever, but here's the story:
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/LAW/09/1....ap/index.html HAYWARD, California (AP) -- Two men who had sex with a transgender teen and then discovered she was biologically male were convicted Monday of her murder but cleared of hate crimes. Michael Magidson and Jose Merel, both 25, face mandatory sentences of 15 years-to-life in prison for second-degree murder in the killing of Gwen Araujo, who was bound, beaten and strangled. The jury deadlocked in the case of a third man, Jason Cazares, 25, marking the second time a mistrial was declared in his case. The victim's mother, Sylvia Guerrero, expressed satisfaction with the outcome. "Nothing is going to bring Gwen back. I know that. But this is at least a step toward closure," she said. Araujo, 17, was born a boy named Edward but grew up to believe her true identity was female. The defendants, who knew her as Lida, met her in the summer of 2002. Magidson and Merel had sexual encounters with her, experiences that fueled suspicions about Araujo's gender. The issue boiled over in the early hours of October 4, 2002, in a confrontation at Merel's house in the San Francisco suburb of Newark. In the first trial, the three defendants stuck together, with their lawyers attacking the chief prosecution witness, Jaron Nabors, who was also at the house the night Araujo died but was allowed to plead guilty to manslaughter. But in the second trial, the defendants' united front cracked, with Merel implicating Magidson. Nabors testified at both trials that Araujo was savagely attacked after her biological identity was revealed when her underwear was pulled aside. He said he didn't see the killing but saw Magidson pull a rope toward the teen's neck. Magidson testified that he beat and tied up Araujo, adding that while he couldn't remember large parts of the night he was sure he had not strangled her. He said Nabors was the killer and his attorney asked for a manslaughter conviction. But Merel, testifying for the first time, broke down and cried when prosecutor Chris Lamiero asked him directly if Magidson had admitted strangling Araujo. He testified that Magidson had told him "if push came to shove" Merel should identify Magidson as the killer. Magidson's sentencing was set for January 6. Attorneys are to discuss setting a sentencing date for Merel on October 28. Magidson's attorney, Michael Thorman, said his client would appeal the latest verdict. An autopsy found that Araujo died of asphyxiation associated with head injuries. Nabors testified that Merel smashed Araujo in the head with a can and hit her with a pan. Merel said he slapped Arroyo and hit her a glancing blow with the pan, but he denied seriously injuring her. Merel's lawyer, William Du Bois, said he was shocked by the murder verdict, especially since Lamiero had said he didn't think Merel was the killer. If Merel was guilty of anything, Du Bois said, it was felony assault. Cazares said he was outside the house when the killing took place and only helped bury the body in a shallow grave in the Sierra Nevada foothills.
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Sad, but I probably would have done the same under those circumstances.
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I hate it when a perfectly good piece of ass gets murdered... That is why I never watch thriller movies. They NEVER fuck the girl before they kill her... but they have fucked a few after.
Sad story though on a serious note. We are all different, and those of us who don't like who we are, try to be someone different. That is how we grow and develop our OWN personalities. |
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Those guys should not go to jail. Im not a violent guy but if I found out that I was messing around with a girl that was really a guy I would have either killed myself or killed the fake girl or both. I think tricking a man into thinking your a girl takes away his man-hood forever and is worse than the crime they committed. Yea murder is sick but who would'nt be a little sick, confused and maybe a little mental after having that happen to them.
The guy new what he was doing, the guys did what they did out of anger and confusion. I say let the guys go and keep them on watch. If they ever kill again its not cause their killers, its cause this fake girl took away there man - hood and if you dont have that what are you?
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no pics? i want to see what it looked like
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2nd degree murder?
shit those dudes tied her/him up, then beat and strangled her/him to death? some thought went into that...
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ohh please! This does not give you the right to kill another person and in the way they did it.
This is really sad!
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There is no excuse for tying someone up and then killing them..... Period.
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Interesting to see the closet homo's in this thread.
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That said, not sure how you can bang someone and not know they have a cockandballs. |
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kman hit me up cracka
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Sounds like Boys Don't Cry
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That was a pretty stupid response. Women spend there whole life wishiing they were something diferant. Be it.. 5 years older 10 years younger Bigger tits Smaller Ass If anyone is living an illusion and putting on the front for the other sex i would have to put that blame on women |
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exactly - thanks for pointing that out
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Justification for murder? Absolutely not. Nobody should lose their life over such a bad choice.
I don't think it's fair for Transgendered people to involve non transgendered people in their shit though. I for one would be quite angry myself.
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she had it coming.
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uhhh fool me once er shame on er uh me uh you can't be fooled again
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Damn....
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I read about this a while ago . I think it was in rolling stone. Sad story they were all boozing and doing drugs.
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that's just sad
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they need to make a law agains't whatever you call what that girl did to those guys. i mean just like rape in most cases it doesn't physically hurt the lady but does psychological damage. shit and your going to tell me if a lady had the power to take out the guy who did that to them your saying you wouldn't? in my mind shes no different from any other sexual predator out there.
to me im not saying she deserved to die but if it was me i would have cut her cock and balls off with a razor and did her a favor. |
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They killed her becuase they realized that they were right when they originally thought she might be a man but wanted blowjobs anyway.
They knew then that they had fucked a man knowing he was a man from the start and that's why their "man-hood" was threaten. They were attracted to a man and they couldn't live with knowing that deep down they were fags too! She looks like a fucking man!!!! And they knew it! If they had been really tricked by some really beautiful fem looking tranny who could fool any man then they would have cursed her out and left it at that. |
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she/he had it comming. All in all, he's still a guy who tricked guys into fucking him.
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i enjoy reading the posts of the people whom i predicted would post ignorant things like 'she had it coming'..
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and again, this fucking world is an evil place
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mmm yeah!
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Imagine if it was a rich white girl........
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no one has the right to murder slap the shit out of maybe but not murder.
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well murder is murder no matter how you look at it. no ones above the law.
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She/he did not have it coming, but she/he most certainly took advantage of those guys.
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She could have gone on a tranny site; she'll be treated very well and even earn enough from it.
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murder isnt a justification for anything
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Whats with people saying if you found out someone you slept with was really a man , that means you'd go and kill them ... this is hardly a reason to kill someone ... Yes id be pretty pissed off and wouldnt blame someone for being really pissed off , but whats killing them gonna do??? so not only do you fuck a man but your going to jail for 15 years or more Too ... Good Work!
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I'm sure many trannies have probably been beat up if they didn't tell their partner their true gender..nothing justifies being murdered over it though
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nobody deserves to die, but thats like driving into compton with a loudspeaker blaring " fuck you niggers"
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The story is truly sad, but even worse is the idiotic statements from some of you.
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Sad to see something like that happen.
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RIP Gwen Araujo
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This incident happened about 2hrs from my home. Those guys had anal and oral sex with him, so how did they not know it was a guy
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