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Old 09-12-2005, 04:13 PM   #1
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Anyone have experience with a dog that bites

My German Shepherd feels it necessary to bite people. Over the past week he has bitten two people. Neither one of them seriously injured but none the less. Today after he bit a 5 year old girl in the face I kicked the fucking shit out of him and debated shooting him with my 9. I don't really want to get rid of him but at this point it's not looking good. He is 4 years old and I'm wondering if you can teach an old dog new tricks. How about to stop fucking biting people? He's definitely not stupid, if you know German Shepherds they are one of the smartest breeds out there. I think he is just way to over-protective. Anyone have any advice?
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:17 PM   #2
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im not sure, i would honestly keep him away from people though.
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Put him down.
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bite the dog back..

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try keeping him away from people.
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dogs generally exhibit poor behavior when they're are the "alpha" or the dominant dog in the pack. (guess what you're part of the pack) you need to let your dog know that YOU'RE the alpha. kicking the shit out of him isn't the way.
it's a bit more complex than a simple post, but best of luck.
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My German Shepherd feels it necessary to bite people. Over the past week he has bitten two people. Neither one of them seriously injured but none the less. Today after he bit a 5 year old girl in the face I kicked the fucking shit out of him and debated shooting him with my 9. I don't really want to get rid of him but at this point it's not looking good. He is 4 years old and I'm wondering if you can teach an old dog new tricks. How about to stop fucking biting people? He's definitely not stupid, if you know German Shepherds they are one of the smartest breeds out there. I think he is just way to over-protective. Anyone have any advice?

Sad to say ...get rid of him before he does real damage.
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Well first beating him is not a answer and secondly why not put muzzle on him when he is out and instead of coming on to GFY why not go to a dog trainer and 4 yrs old is not old.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:24 PM   #9
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You need to show the dog who's boss... Instead of shooting him with your 9, beat him over the head with it... If'n you kill him he'll never learn the lesson...

Seriously though, you should consider having him put down. There are countless other dogs available that will not have the personality problems (and the potential for a sizeable lawsuit). Have him put down and then replace him with an older dog... prefereably one without any teeth...
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:25 PM   #10
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dogs generally exhibit poor behavior when they're are the "alpha" or the dominant dog in the pack. (guess what you're part of the pack) you need to let your dog know that YOU'RE the alpha. kicking the shit out of him isn't the way.
it's a bit more complex than a simple post, but best of luck.
That may be the case but he was definitely quiet after I kicked the shit out of him. Not another peep out of him the entire day. Whenever he walks up to me now he's always looking down and won't look me in the eye for more than a quick glance.
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1) Seek the help of a professional dog trainer. You are not qualified to handle the situation yourself.

2) Consider it to be a dangerous dog. Keep him securely contained and muzzled when he is not. It is your responsibility as the owner of a large and powerful breed to ensure he does not hurt people. If you do not feel you can safely restrain this dog, it's time to consider getting rid of it.

Remember folks, dogs are a responsibility. If you feel that "kicking the shit out of it" is a responsible way to deal with a dog, you probably shouldn't have one.
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:28 PM   #12
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I would buy a muzzle for sure.
You can train him later but protect the people and yourself from a lawsuit asap
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Old 09-12-2005, 04:28 PM   #13
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BEATING THE DOG WILL ONLY MAKE HIM WORSE!!!!!!

putting him down would make you feel like an asshole maybe

& DEFINATELY DONT BITE THE DOG BACK!!! this will confuse the shit out of him.. teach the dog "DONT BITE!!!" whenever you seehim going to bite, give a firm NO, dont scream or yell but be firm in making a command.. if he still does it after the NO.. lightly slap his snout with a rolled newspaper...LIGHTLY!! eventually he will get the hint!!! BUT YOU MUST REMAIN PATIENT!!! DO NOT EVER LOSE CONTROL..THE DOG WILL SENSE THIS & NOT LISTEN TO YOU!!!! THEY ARE VERY SMART!! you ever hear about dogs that turn on the owners & maul them..those are dogs that were beaten too much.. it's instinct.. YOU need to become the alpha male of the pack & teach your dog to be submissive.. if you beat him too much HE MAY turn on you & challenge you to overtake position as alpha.. this is what dogs do....
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That may be the case but he was definitely quiet after I kicked the shit out of him. Not another peep out of him the entire day. Whenever he walks up to me now he's always looking down and won't look me in the eye for more than a quick glance.
dont be fucking cheap and go to a trainer beating a dog doesnt teach him anything.Also get a muzzle they are like 15 dollars. If you cant afford it hock the 9 and get your baby proper training. Also maybe you made him that way if your beating the fuck out of him.

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For the people that say "how about keeping him away from people". Both of the times he has bitten it's been IN my house, not outside, not in a park, not on a side walk. I fully know that he is dangerous and whenever a stranger comes over I keep him locked up. Actually I think I may purchase a crate, he'll hate that for sure. Anyways, I keep him locked up and if someone else lets him out in the house to run free and he sees a stranger he starts barking at them. If they try to pet him is when he bites.
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not personaly.. but i know few people that got bitten by a mad dog..

its not a nice feeling.. at least thats what they told me huh
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Yup, for all the people that say beating the shit out of him is bad, how about you see a 5 year old girl crying with blood on her cheek. The dog knew exactly what was up when I started walking towards him.
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For the people that say "how about keeping him away from people". Both of the times he has bitten it's been IN my house, not outside, not in a park, not on a side walk. I fully know that he is dangerous and whenever a stranger comes over I keep him locked up. Actually I think I may purchase a crate, he'll hate that for sure. Anyways, I keep him locked up and if someone else lets him out in the house to run free and he sees a stranger he starts barking at them. If they try to pet him is when he bites.
I have Three Rottweilers that are all properly crate trained. They love their crates, sleep in them and have no fear or nervousness about being put in them. Crates are an excellent solution for restraining a dog. I'd be pleased to go in to detail with you about proper crate training. Feel free to hit me up on ICQ.

Remember, beating a dog doesn't train it. Please consider seeking the help of a professional obedience trainer. Group sessions are inexpensive and found pretty much everywhere.
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dont be fucking cheap and go to a trainer beating a dog doesnt teach him anything.Also get a muzzle they are like 15 dollars. If you cant afford it hock the 9 and get your baby proper training. Also maybe you made him that way if your beating the fuck out of him.
Yeah, I like to beat him all the time, it's great fun. I've had him 3 years now and I've hit him twice, both after he bit people
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Yup, for all the people that say beating the shit out of him is bad, how about you see a 5 year old girl crying with blood on her cheek. The dog knew exactly what was up when I started walking towards him.
I'm sorry, but no matter what you think, dogs do not learn by being beaten. You are not correcting the situation. You are teaching the dog to fear you and that is counter productive. Again, professional training.
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what happened to the girl, is she ok?
you have a dog for 4 years and still dont know how to control the bustard?
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Shoot him. A friend of mines dog bit his 11 year old son in the face and caused him to get a pretty good amount of stitches. The dog was dead before the mom and the kid came back from the hospital. If he does it once, he will do it again. Cant let that shit slide because it could get ugly. If you're not going to put him down then keep him away from people.
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Dogs follow a basic system of body language. The quick, jerky motions of children, combined with the high pitched noises they tend to make can very quickly set a dog in to pray drive.

Large dogs that have not been properly obedience trained should not be interacting with children, especially children they are not very familiar with.
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I have Three Rottweilers that are all properly crate trained. They love their crates, sleep in them and have no fear or nervousness about being put in them. Crates are an excellent solution for restraining a dog. I'd be pleased to go in to detail with you about proper crate training. Feel free to hit me up on ICQ.

Remember, beating a dog doesn't train it. Please consider seeking the help of a professional obedience trainer. Group sessions are inexpensive and found pretty much everywhere.
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Yup, for all the people that say beating the shit out of him is bad, how about you see a 5 year old girl crying with blood on her cheek. The dog knew exactly what was up when I started walking towards him.
Beating doesn't teach the dog shit except that he should be rough with anyone who he considers under him in heirarchy or new to the pack. You're not going to be able to train him yourself, I just have that feeling. Get a trainer out to work with him. If you can't afford a trainer, give him up to the SPCA because you can't afford a big dog either and in your hands something bad is going to happen with or to this dog.
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Hitting the dog just teaches him to be more agressive

Like someone else days, he is the leader of the pack and he does what he wants. You need to switch it out. Try checking google
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funny how everyone jumps to conclusions and assumes someone can't afford a trainer even though this has all happened within the last week and I have had him for 3 years. I will try to find a trainer, I live in in the boonies.
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funny how everyone jumps to conclusions and assumes someone can't afford a trainer even though this has all happened within the last week and I have had him for 3 years. I will try to find a trainer, I live in in the boonies.
Well in reality the dog should had proper training when the dog was a puppy. To have big dogs and not to have them trained is very irresponsible. IF you could afford it then you were cheap which was twice as bad.
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Well in reality the dog should had proper training when the dog was a puppy. To have big dogs and not to have them trained is very irresponsible. IF you could afford it then you were cheap which was twice as bad.
Yeah, that would work good if I got him as a puppy. I've had him for 3 years
and he's 4. Let me do the math. I got him from a shelter when he was the only dog not barking at me.
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jdavis, as a GSD owner, I know exactly how intelligent the breed can be. With that said, it's neither easy, nor difficult to train a dog and like many have already said; hitting the dog will not in any way help resolve your problems.

http://www.dogproblems.com/ try visiting that site for some very insightful help in training your dog. The guy who runs it, Adam Katz (I found that a strange name for a "dog" trainer), definately knows his stuff. He's god a great book as well as a forum where other dog handlers/trainers give great advice. Give it a shot.

I hope you persevere with the dog, they honestly are beautiful animals.

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Something else you MUST need to do, ESPECIALLY if you decide you want a large dog is find out what issues of dominance you may have to deal with later on down the road when it grows out of puppyhood. Understand that ALL dogs will challenge you for dominance at different points in ther lives. I'm not just talking about the dog trying to bite you. ever see a dog that knows it's not supposed to be on the couch, and then you walk in the room and tell it to get down. then the dog doesnt do it? That is a dominance issue. There are many other examples of this type of behavior that I am too lazy to write about. Also know that all dogs are pack animals. The reason for the whole dominance issue is that the dog needs to know where it fits into the pack. It has to have this for social structure. A dog will actually be happier and more confident once it knows that you are dominant leader, it lets the dog know that it is truly in a pack. You will want to find a pup that won't fight you for dominance too hard.

You dont want to end up with a fullgrown dog with an attitude thats trying to run your house. The absolute best way to determine a pups dominance drive is to put it on it's back, and hold it there. This is a universally submissive position for any dog. Whomever has the dog in this position, and is holding it there is in the dominant position of the dog. ALL pups will initially try to squirm and fight to get away. What you are looking for is a pup that doesnt fight continually to get up, and quickly submits and looks away from you. The harder a pup fights against you, the more that particular pup is dominance driven.

ALL breeds have some who are good and some who are bad. I had to have my right ear surgically reattached after it was bitten nearly off by a collie! Yup, a collie. Go figure, lol.


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Keep him on a short lead and with a muzzle on him when you take him on walks. Make sure your garden is secure when he's out and get a sign on your gate so people know to enter at their own risk
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you are a fool are heartless if you put him down.

train him. take the time to do ot yourself or take him to a trainer if you have too.

Putting him down because you don't want to put in the effort is a sad waste of life.
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Obedience school or one day someone might just shoot him for you if he gets out and bites someone
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Well as a owner of a german shepherd that is shutzhund trained. That is my biggest fear that the dog will big someone. She has bit a small dog and was fined 250 bucks as my dog was off leash. That is the ace card in any lawsuit. Was the dog off leash.. you do not have a single hope in hell. Most courts and animal control will lay heavy fines. If the dog was on leash... it your almost not at fault.. but if the lawyer is slick- u will lose due to failure to control the animal

bottom line get a lawyer thar specailizes in dog bites.

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btw ..some times animal control will label the dog as being dangerous ...
the dog always on a leash..in a kennel in your yard.. and must wear a muzzle in public
and you must carry insurance that has a dog clause of min 100k .
and if you sell the dog and it bites someone.. your at fault.
if the paperboy is in front of the house ..trips on his shoelace.. the dog barks and claims the dog scared him.. your at fault.

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Beating the dog may put him in his place with YOU, but he's still going to think of himself as being above everyone else.
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Old 09-12-2005, 06:33 PM   #45
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has he always been like that? or is it recent behavior? i don't have any advice but a bit off topic, i always have dreams about dogs biting my hand really hard and not letting go.
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Old 09-12-2005, 07:54 PM   #46
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no, i haven't...keeping him away from other people doesn't work
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:28 PM   #47
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My German Shepherd feels it necessary to bite people. Over the past week he has bitten two people. Neither one of them seriously injured but none the less. Today after he bit a 5 year old girl in the face I kicked the fucking shit out of him and debated shooting him with my 9. I don't really want to get rid of him but at this point it's not looking good. He is 4 years old and I'm wondering if you can teach an old dog new tricks. How about to stop fucking biting people? He's definitely not stupid, if you know German Shepherds they are one of the smartest breeds out there. I think he is just way to over-protective. Anyone have any advice?
Dogs are territorial in nature. They attack if they think you are getting into their territory. Well, what's the use of the rope if you don't know how to tie her?
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:33 PM   #48
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The best way you have to do... is to consult a trainer and learned some techniques on what to do.. keep him this days to people and if he is used to it and can adopt, I guess that's the time you will set him free... and also be strict to him in ways not to do this and that!
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:35 PM   #49
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you've already fuked him up

there are no bad dogs,,only bad people
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Old 09-12-2005, 08:39 PM   #50
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bit a 5 year old in the face? Put him down, get over it, get another dog. Even if he straightens up (for whatever reason), it will be like going back into an abusive relationship. Things might be ok for a bit, but when they go sour, how are you going to feel about the kid the dog DOES hurt? Put it down, it's not worth it.
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