Its impossible for a 9-5er to grasp that your computer is your work. (rant)

[mrthumbs]

And that its not really about the computer but the things you do with it and the people you communicate with through it.

It still amazes me that even the people that now me best (smart people) still think that when im sitting behind my screen im practising some out of control hobby.

Specially during arguments they seem to refer not only to me but to "me and my computer" like im some fucking nerd. Well i hate this machine more than you do!

Nono im not frustrated i just realized that unless i find people around me that do exactly the same thing like me (who would want that! ha!) there will always be a barrier between me and my 'loved ones'.

Issues they have the most problems dealing with:

A. no, money doesnt come for free for me. Just because i have more than you
and make more in a year than you probably will in a lifetime doesnt mean money comes in easy for me. I work for it, harder than you. I dont turn off my brain at 5. My brain never shuts down.

B. no, im not having a nonstop lifetime holiday that i fill with fucking around on the phone and the computer. Actually i NEVER have a holiday.. never have freetime.. this shit wont stop.. 24/7/365 im in business and working on it.
Even when im sleeping or fucking you theres always something in my brain
chewing on the next project. Im not a workaholic.. it just comes with the territory. Thats what im about.

That i have the position to go and do whatever i please and do crazy shit all day doesnt mean i have the same type of freedom as you during your weekends.
I can do whatever i want because of one simple reason; im responsible for myself because i refuse to delegate my own life to some asshole that can tell me what to do.

C. no, im not going to explain you what im doing. Ive told you the basics and even though you think im fucking around on a message board
full of nude pics and fun topics doesnt mean im free and bored with nothing better to do. Im just venting and taking a quick break so i can continue working in a few minutes. I can do many things at once: my mind is still in business even when im jerking off.

I know that when you would do that shit at your dayjob you would get fired, that just doesnt mean im not working! I am, harder than you ever will.

D. Just because you see me sitting behind my desk _working_ doesnt mean YOU can sit around waiting till i have time for you and do nothing.

Im not playing videogames: if you see mario: you can blame me, yes.

The above is the only disadvantage (and a big one) of NOT having a shitty 9-5 job. My life would be easier if i made 6 an hour flipping burgers.
Coming home would be a joy.


Sorry about that.. back to work!

ps. Anyone else came up with a solution for this?

[TMM_John]

A-fucking-MEN!

[Machete_]

the only people that understand the work, is the people already in the business.
I have stopped trying to explain the work to people

[detoxed]

Most women wil never get it

[tony286]

People dont understand, I hear are you semi retired . They are jealious lol

[Hunter_ST]

I just gave notice to my boss that I'm quitting my mainstream job in October...

so, I look forward to having to explain to people what I do, now that I no longer "go to work."

Still, I wouldn't trade this for anything...

[slapass]

Not sure aoubt you but the internet is my work and my free time so it is easy to get them blended. Like right now I am not working but I am checking stats and shit but really i am posting......

See why they are confused?

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by tony404

People dont understand, I hear are you semi retired . They are jealious lol

Exactly "hes retired and still doesnt have time for us".

I used to blame myself for not communicating with these people properly.
Im the typoe of guy that says "doing some complicated stuff.. work"
and thats it.

I always figured "maybe i should explain them in detail what im doing.. what im working on".

I tried that with people for the last year but it doesnt make a difference.
Their eyes go wide open like youre explaining advanced mathematics and after 5 minutes they go like "oh.. ok.. can we go out now?".
Its obvious they dont understand and cant otherwise theyd be doing it themselves.

[u-Bob]

posting it here won't help them understand... you could try printing it out 5000 times and throwing it at them...

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by slapass

Not sure aoubt you but the internet is my work and my free time so it is easy to get them blended. Like right now I am not working but I am checking stats and shit but really i am posting......

See why they are confused?

They cant understand that your work, what you do, is something you like.
For them work is a pain in the ass. You do something you, for the large part, enjoy. Its in your blood and you do it for yourself so youre motived and behave DURING work like they behave OFF work.

So it must be a hobby and you choose that hobby above them.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

posting it here won't help them understand... you could try printing it out 5000 times and throwing it at them...

"Hes so bored hes even printing funny notes.." i can hear them say it.

[Wiggles]

i don't make a living doing this, because i don't dedicate that much time too it, but i have noticed similar responses to my work and had similar feelings towards them, its frustrating.

[broke]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

"Hes so bored hes even printing funny notes.." i can hear them say it.

Why do you even care?

[nico-t]

well one friend of mine thinks is paradise, he thinks its a jacking off job haha

others ask 'so how many hours do u work a day'? when i say i really dont know they keep whining so now i just make something up lol

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by broke

Why do you even care?

If you have your own business and havent been anywhere else in your life that becomes a big part of you. Its what you are/who you are. A way of life i sincerely believe so.

If the people that are close to you thus important cant understand that part its like having a relationship with people that speak another language.

so that matters in a way ;)

[broke]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

If the people that are close to you thus important cant understand that part its like having a relationship with people that speak another language.

so that matters in a way ;)

They can't and you are (having a relationship with people that speak another language)... that's just the way it is.
I understand you're having a rant...

Carry on.

[mrthumbs]

Originally Posted by broke

They can't and you are (having a relationship with people that speak another language)... that's just the way it is.
I understand you're having a rant...

Carry on.

You are right sir :-)

[kacy]

Yes, I have this exact issue as well. My family don't think I have a job and I can just do whatever whenever for them as well. I feel for you for sure, its very frusterating.

[slapass]

Originally Posted by mrthumbs

They cant understand that your work, what you do, is something you like.
For them work is a pain in the ass. You do something you, for the large part, enjoy. Its in your blood and you do it for yourself so youre motived and behave DURING work like they behave OFF work.

So it must be a hobby and you choose that hobby above them.

WOW! I just said this to an x girlfriend. I have tried to find a hobby but why do some boring hobby when I could be challenged by working on something. If you call me at 11 PM and I am busy working, it is because I want to!

[E Guru]

No shit. I hate it how some of my friends constantly giving me shit about "how easy" my job is that I don't have to do any real work. No matter what I say they seam to think their job is so much harder than mine.

[garce]

Excellent post.

[escorpio]

Good rant, dude. We all know your pain.

[mrthumbs]

Another great issue that counts as proof for them im just clowning around:

chatting.

MSN.. ICQ..

Normal people CANT connect an IM to business. You just talk to friends and family with it.

And no we dont have formal business conversations in this industry: when you talk to equal people that also enjoy what they are doing conversations are decorated with fun and jokes. Just like how YOU talk to friends. Still its business and a lot is usually at stake.

[SleazyDream]

someday i hope to get a job do i can know what everyone else has to deal with

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by E Guru

No shit. I hate it how some of my friends constantly giving me shit about "how easy" my job is that I don't have to do any real work. No matter what I say they seam to think their job is so much harder than mine.

Well I do have admit that I'm a biz lazy and don't really do a lot of work. And it certainly isn't physically demanding. That said, if one is busting their ass at a 9-5 job they hate, while I make as much if not more than them working 1/5 the hours and work at home at my own leisure and they "brag" about how much harder they work than me, they are not only most likely just jealous, but also retarded. Fine they work harder then me, for more hours and less pay. Way to go, idiots.

[Matt 26z]

I don't care for the "Tell me how to make money online" type comments.

[StuartD]

Awesome post... I deal with that endlessly.

[throwdown]

exactly right

they think you click a few buttons and type some shit up and you make money.

they dont see the actual work and stupid petty shit you have to do, the feeling of losing money on an investment, they dont have to freak out when their host goes down or something isnt working right, they dont understand the imporance of email, they know nothing.

[Bake]

On devorce papers my ex stated that I hadent worked in 4 years and I was unemployed, but I stilled earned 4x more than her so she should keep the house.

[Pete-KT]

very good post

[fatal attraction]

Tell us how you really feel! Awesome rant!

[escorpio]

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

I don't care for the "Tell me how to make money online" type comments.

Those fuckers are the worst!

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by Bake

On devorce papers my ex stated that I hadent worked in 4 years and I was unemployed, but I stilled earned 4x more than her so she should keep the house.

You income tax return should prove that bitch wrong. When it's more "respectable" and considered more of a "real" job to work at McDonand's for $5.15 and hour than to work for yourself for 10X that amount or more then there is osmethign worng with this society.

Notice no one gripes at the 3rd string 2nd baseman for some baseball team that never plays in a game but still make $300K a year, doesn't have a REAL job? Hmmmmmmm?

[CDSmith]

So true. Good post.

Nevermind other people, some members of my own family haven't quite gotten it about what I do in nearly 7 years now.... they likely never will.

[NoWhErE]

There are 2 types of people : The Blind and The Visionnaries.

Obviously Visionnaries cannot explain what they see to the blind for the blind no nothing of the seing world.

We work at home type are visionnaries. We don't let ourselves get bound up by the invisible 9-5 rule setup by other Visionnaries trying to trap blind people into doing their dirty work.

So I don't waste my time trying to explain what I do to them. I simply don't have the time to waste on them. I just keep working. Eventually people will recognize your hardwork when you're 35 and own a few mansions in the Carribeans.

[Bake]

It was just a bit funny the way she keeped telling the judge that I hadent worked in 4 years because I was a lay around lazy barstard who deserve nothing.
And then in the next breath saying I had all this money and assetts.

[MuleScrote]

Wow...very well put. I've quit trying to explain myself and the massive amounts of porn on my hard drive, she knows what I do.

We built a new house and just moved in a couple weeks ago. Today she had the nerve to say "You've been at that computer way too much...every since we moved in here that's all you've been doing with your spare time."

All I could say was "Did you pay for this house? No. I'm taking care of business."


As mad as she gets and pretends to hate what I do, I'll never forget the first thing she said asked I brought home the blueprints for this house...

"Where is your office going to be?"

enough said.

[bllott]

Originally Posted by detoxed

Most women wil never get it

none do

[mrbling]

I never talk about specifics of my business to any laymen,

I'd talk in generalities, such as work hard for your goals, gain success.

You will immediately know what kind of person you are talking to once you speak about hard work.

[dynastoned]

Originally Posted by Bake

On devorce papers my ex stated that I hadent worked in 4 years and I was unemployed, but I stilled earned 4x more than her so she should keep the house.

haha fuckin classic..

[beemk]

you dont work, you just sit behind a computer all day.

[Babagirls]

Originally Posted by detoxed

Most women wil never get it

are you kidding me? its the MEN that have trouble understanding WOMEN doing this porn shit 24/7 from home.

1) *they can't accept the fact that a woman is smart enough to be her own boss & be (more than) successful at it.

2) they cant believe a woman promotes porn, of all things.
3) they cant accept the fact that a woman can make more money then them at SELLING PORN and FROM HOME. lol


I get so much shit from people, its not even funny. Yes, i sell porn to desperate men & women or just horny fuckers in general (like myself). Yes, i love my job. Yes, there are ups & downs to this CHOOSEN career (such as insomina, and like mrthumbs said, i think about my job 24/7 no matter what/who im doing.)

Not only do I agree 100% with mrthumbs, but i would like to add: try being a woman with the same job/stereo-types.

*they=regular (offline) Joe-Schmos.

[abadfish]

Last night I got lectured for 30 minutes by two people about how I need to get a job and do this and do that and follow my dreams when I've been doing this for 5 years and love it a lot more then they care for their jobs. I also make more then them and live a better life then them.

What pisses me off the most is when I'm working on shit and people assume since it's on the computer it's not as important and it's alright if I take off or don't work. So I can hang out whenever or do their errands.

Even I feel guilty when my friends have a day off from their work and they call me in the middle of the day wanting to hang out and I tell them I'm working. I have a feeling they feel that I'm blowing them off since I am making the decision to work and not a boss.

[chupachups]

A god I love that post...... I am dealing with this shit several times a day, ppl have no idea what they are talking about.....

[the indigo]

Actually I work smarter, not harder... and I can stop working whenever I want. So yes, some people might think I'm not working hard during summer (true!) and can enjoy life as much as possible. (also true).

In 2 weeks I will go back to work 24/7 so I can enjoy the next summer. That's what I call having full control of your life.

[merlin]

Back in 98 when I hadn't made any $$.... everyone "he would have already done it if he could", now it's "your so lucky blah blah blah"........Funny thing is if some of them stopped spending $$ so fast they would do ok too (they don't take into account that being self employed I save everything I can... too make sure I never do a 9-5 again!), but people only tend to look at the now not the whole process and where it started....

I respect everyone who gives a business idea a shot and especially the ones who fail but continue to get up and try again no matter what anyone says... they are true champions and in the end are likely to do well...

But working online is hard to explain, just start talking about SE algo's if you want poeple to go away...

[emthree]

true shit

[TheJimmy]

Originally Posted by ebus_dk

the only people that understand the work, is the people already in the business.
I have stopped trying to explain the work to people

what he said, trying to explain it is a waste of time really...


tell them you are a crazy programming/ computer scientist, they will leave you alone faster than if you mention "ANYTHING" that remotely sounds like fun or entertainment...

[quantum-x]

I like explaining it in this fashion to 9-5'ers.

Me: So anyhow, what are you doing 11:30 am on Tuesday
Them: I'm at work.
Me: Cool, let's go see a movie.
Them: Didn't you hear me? I'm at work!
Me: Exactly, so am I, so fuck off.

Just because YOU'RE not working doesn't mean you can interrupt me during my work hours. fuck wits.

[kmanrox]

haha good post... for the pat 3 years i found out, that my maid thought i was a trust fund baby because she has never sen me 'work'... i had to get a chick to translate to her that was certainly not the case and i was offended... =)