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Old 09-11-2005, 07:19 PM   #1
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look what IRAN is getting for Christmas!!

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...776250,00.html
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:21 PM   #2
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Some fucked up times we are living in..
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and this idiot

would have the finger on the red button ...

He would have nuked Iraq... after all, they had stockpiles of WMD, were responsible for 9/11 .... and oil.
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Old 09-11-2005, 07:24 PM   #4
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Some fucked up times we are living in..

yes, lots of crap is talked about WMD, however the USA is the only country that ever 'walked the walk'
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and this idiot

would have the finger on the red button ...

He would have nuked Iraq... after all, they had stockpiles of WMD, were responsible for 9/11 .... and oil.

is that mary poppins having a bad hair day???
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It was drafted by the Pentagon in March and posted on the internet, but did not attract widespread attention until a report on it in The Washington Post yesterday. It has since been removed from the Department of Defence website.
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yes, lots of crap is talked about WMD, however the USA is the only country that ever 'walked the walk'
people forget that
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They're developing a bunker buster type nuke so it will detonate below the surface when Iran's nuke facilities get taken out. This way the radioactive fallout will be limited and contained to specific target areas and the political fallout will be limited as well so no civilians are harmed.

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They're developing a bunker buster type nuke so it will detonate below the surface when Iran's nuke facilities get taken out. This way the radioactive fallout will be limited and contained to specific target areas and the political fallout will be limited as well so no civilians are harmed.

How peacefull .... good thing we have America to spread " freedom " ....
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Iran is going to be opening the worlds first international oil market based in Euros early next year. This could completely destabilize US currency hegemony.

It only makes sense that the US would play the nuclear card. The Iranian army is far too strong for the US to easily take on. How else will the US be able to take them out before the new oil market begins trading?
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WASHINGTON ? Is the biggest threat Iran poses to the United States really its nuclear ambitions - or is it petropolitics?

Last month the Iranian government quietly reaffirmed plans to create by next year a euro-denominated exchange in oil, natural gas, and other petroleum products. If successful, such an exchange could start to lap at the walls of the two existing oil exchanges - London's International Petroleum Exchange (IPE) and the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) - both owned by American companies.

If the billions of dollars in oil sales ever got going in euros, experts say, that could dry up the demand for dollars that the heavily indebted US economy depends on, and it could mean big trouble for the US economy. It's enough to make the Great Satan-loathing visionaries behind the Iranian regime salivate. The chances of success, however, seem quite remote - at least in the short term.

...Yet even as remote as the Iranian threat may be, others note that past attempts to create new markets have not been greeted warmly. None other than Saddam Hussein decided to sell oil only in contracts dominated in euros - 4 months later he was ousted by a US-led military invasion. All contracts changed to US and British interests and the oil is once again sold in dollars.
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WASHINGTON ? Is the biggest threat Iran poses to the United States really its nuclear ambitions - or is it petropolitics?

Last month the Iranian government quietly reaffirmed plans to create by next year a euro-denominated exchange in oil, natural gas, and other petroleum products. If successful, such an exchange could start to lap at the walls of the two existing oil exchanges - London's International Petroleum Exchange (IPE) and the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) - both owned by American companies.

If the billions of dollars in oil sales ever got going in euros, experts say, that could dry up the demand for dollars that the heavily indebted US economy depends on, and it could mean big trouble for the US economy. It's enough to make the Great Satan-loathing visionaries behind the Iranian regime salivate. The chances of success, however, seem quite remote - at least in the short term.

...Yet even as remote as the Iranian threat may be, others note that past attempts to create new markets have not been greeted warmly. None other than Saddam Hussein decided to sell oil only in contracts dominated in euros - 4 months later he was ousted by a US-led military invasion. All contracts changed to US and British interests and the oil is once again sold in dollars.
I didn't know about saddam's market in euro ... heard something about it but didn't know it was directly from him
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Iran is playing the stupid card right now. You'd think they get a clue after seeing what happened to Saddam when he played that hand.
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Iran is going to be opening the worlds first international oil market based in Euros early next year. This could completely destabilize US currency hegemony.

It only makes sense that the US would play the nuclear card. The Iranian army is far too strong for the US to easily take on. How else will the US be able to take them out before the new oil market begins trading?
That was Iraq's mistake.. why do you think we invaded Iraq? Because Saddam started selling oil in Euros. The first thing they did once we took over Iraq was to change oil sales back to US dollars.

If Iran goes that route the powers that be will take them out.. nuclear reactors or not. The Fascist regime that runs our country knows the only way to keep this country on top, is to keep oil sales world wide in American dollars.
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God.. they are even more stupid than anyone could ever dream.
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I tought that the good USA had " liberated" Iraq to give them democracy ....


It's a bit like learning Santa Claus doesn't exist....
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US should have bombed Iran long time ago
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I tought that the good USA had " liberated" Iraq to give them democracy ....


It's a bit like learning Santa Claus doesn't exist....
Santa died years ago!! That has Christian connotations - a subject remote from the current US Admin.

That "face" will change like a change of wind and develop into "we are protecting their new found democracy" while they blow the shit outta em.

It is little surprise some folks on this planet, especially in that area, get pissed.

The US needs to run Louisianna first - instead of trying to be assholes elsewhere and stop fucking in the biz of others.
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Iran is a bigger terrorist threat than iraq and always has been should have been the 2nd place we went first afghanistan and then iran not iraq
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That's intelligent.

Why? Iran is no where near the US.
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Sure gotta be xclusive - cos there was no "terrorist threat" ever revealed so far that Iraq was any terrorist threat.
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Iran is a bigger terrorist threat than iraq and always has been should have been the 2nd place we went first afghanistan and then iran not iraq

repeat after me....


Give me a S
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What do we have ???

SAUDIA..... ARABIA ....

Oups, forgot they are buddy with the wart in the WH....
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That's intelligent.

Why? Iran is no where near the US.

I guess you forgot about them holding over 50 Americans hostage for 444 days.
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I guess you forgot about them holding over 50 Americans hostage for 444 days.

Pretty far away... So maybe you also forgot the USA overthrowing their legit elected government to install the Shah ... and so on
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I guess you forgot about them holding over 50 Americans hostage for 444 days.
Nope. I wonder if everyone else remembers shit.. example, I wonder if the Japanese forgot the US blew the fuck outta their cities and still rant on about it - tho, they have more cause to rant. That was a little more than "holding over 50 Americans hostage for 444 days".

Sort out Louisianna - feed the starving and homeless there first - and try not to shoot the fuck outta the civilian population while doing it.
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Pretty far away... So maybe you also forgot the USA overthrowing their legit elected government to install the Shah ... and so on
DF - Ya forget who placed Saddam into power and supplied him with weaponary to wage a war against Iran??

The idiot element again!
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