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Old 09-11-2005, 11:05 AM   #1
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:mad Important Spamhus Is Targeting All Genbucks Affiliates

Dear Affiliates, spamhaus is now ILLEGALLY targeting any affiliate who is part of
GENBUCKS, in there continued conquest to destroy our business. Lots of
affiliates have been labled as spammers, dispite the fact they have never sent a single
spam in there lives, and certinally havent spammed any of our sites. Their details, adreress
phone numnbers, websites, whois, etc is posted on spamhaus. Some affiliates have allready had
their domains revoked and hosting cancelled.

Dispite repeate emails, to them asking for proof or evidence of spam they choose to ignore
us, and contine to post any sites in the genbucks network that they can find. Many affiliates
have had no choice but to simply shut down there sites, or have them shut down by the host.

When spamhus lists domains and IPs, they then send mulitiple false complaints to, registrars,
hosts, upstreems, and anyone else in the chain that may simply cancel domains or hosting accounts,
for the main fact that once they themselves are listed on spamhus, for supporting "spammers"
emails and traffic to there sites will be blocked, as many ISP are using the SBL block list
in an attempt to block spam. This however is a totally inffectiuve method to block spam, as
spammers usually use proxy machines, that change IPs everyday, so the spamhus system doesnt
effect them, plus they host in china, tiwan or brazil where the ISPs dont give a shit about
spam complaints.

Why are they targeting GENBUCKS? We think its because they are uncessful at shutting down
spammers, that they now choose to go after legitimate sites, as they are ralativly easy
to get shut down, and locate the site owners, because unlike spammers we dont hide behind
fake whois info, and change domains, and ISP everyday. As we arnt doing anything wrong
except work hard.

Bill Livingstin, one of the spamhus staff members is behind this, and has allready admited on
his newsgroups, that he is on his crusade against us because of an affiliate posted his domain
on his forum, and is nothing to do email, or even our network, except for the fact he was
linking to our billing page. And tyhis even to spite the fact we cancelled the guys account..

Research Ive done on them havs shown me that they are currently under investigation by the FBI for doing this to other site/networks.

They are pretending to be the good guys, but them listing us can cause major damage to our business.

We urge all affiliates to email them and ask for proof, ask them to remove your domains and ask them to leave us alone. Check if your domains and details, are listed, your domains could be shut down, if they havent been allready

spamhaus.org/SBL/sbl.lasso?query=SBL31701
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:10 AM   #2
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they suck ass, spamhaus are fucking criminals
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:15 AM   #3
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:39 AM   #4
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Old 09-11-2005, 11:41 AM   #5
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I don't think they would label you guys spammers for nothing...
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:16 PM   #6
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I don't think they would label you guys spammers for nothing...

Hmm...

1) Selling prescription drugs over the internet without a prescription
2) Fradulent domain registration info
3) Lots of use of cloaking and anonymizer services
4) Registrars shutting down domains

...and lots of "Out of Control" EVIL AFFILIATES spamming your shit all over the internet.

But I'm sure you're innocent
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:20 PM   #7
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File a libel suit if it's not true.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:21 PM   #8
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Hmm...

1) Selling prescription drugs over the internet without a prescription
2) Fradulent domain registration info
3) Lots of use of cloaking and anonymizer services
4) Registrars shutting down domains

...and lots of "Out of Control" EVIL AFFILIATES spamming your shit all over the internet.

But I'm sure you're innocent
anyone of the above is good reason..
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:23 PM   #9
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File a libel suit if it's not true.
I would think they would have, a long time ago, if it's not true.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:25 PM   #10
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oh fuck, I just saw his GYF user name

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Old 09-11-2005, 04:27 PM   #11
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I would think they would have, a long time ago, if it's not true.
They are based in India I think... not sure how ez that would be?
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:31 PM   #12
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Be a man and protect your affilates. Take them to court, obviously what they are doing is not legal and hurting peoples business's.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:33 PM   #13
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fuck spamhaus, bunch of morons that they are. Anti-spammers have way too much free time on their hands.
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Old 09-11-2005, 04:35 PM   #14
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They are based in India I think... not sure how ez that would be?
well if want it to stop, guess he will have 2 find a way.
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Old 09-11-2005, 08:27 PM   #15
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Be a man and protect your affilates. Take them to court, obviously what they are doing is not legal and hurting peoples business's.
The dudes who run that are in hiding, due to the amount of death threats thy get. so how can someone can sue these clowns?
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:00 PM   #16
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fuck suing them, attack their stupid asses with packets
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:03 PM   #17
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I got the same email..I didn't realize I had an account with them
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Old 09-11-2005, 09:19 PM   #18
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I use the spamhaus blacklist and I think it`s one of the most forgiving BLs out there...that and the spamcop one. I don`t think they would list you for nothing.

BTW vaires,you can`t packet spamhaus...think they haven`t faced that before??
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Old 09-11-2005, 10:35 PM   #19
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pilldude, honestly, where does your business come from?

Spam?

"unsolicited commercial email"?

Do you honestly look at how your affiliates are sending you traffic? Do you help them to avoid troubles by "shutting down" and account, and then issuing them 10 other new referal codes the day?

Have you even gone back and filtered out all the links coming from spam like links (such as third level domains, geocities, non-adult free hosts, and domains registered within the last 24 hours and hosted in China or India)?

PRobably 50% of all the spam I see right now is mortgage, pills, and ebay scams. If you are totally snow white, if you are checking your affiliates to make sure they are not spamming, and you are not rewarding spammers by paying them, then get a lawyer and go nuts. Others have done it and won.

But if your operation is dependant on spam, well, suck it up.

It's the price of being a spammer.
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