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are you a fucking idiot? how many "gangsters" do you think get guns legally? if you think that alot of them do not have guns you are even dumber.

You are very naive of your city.

All the deaths lately caused by guns in Vancouver and surrounding cities have been due to gang violence by indo chinese, ie... East Indians.

You so have the victim mentality, "Oh, it can't happen to me". Criminals look for your type, it's only a matter of time.

If your brother is 5 foot 6, I dont' think anyone had a worry of being knocked the fuck out, unless you had a brick in your hand.

i own a few guns. never actually needed one. but i guess a lot of people might think twice before they come into your house if they think you might have a 12 gauge under your bed.

You're from Alberta, your opinion on gun control hardly represents Canada. However, I'll be the adult here and instead of calling you names, I'll give you a well thought out reply.

Instead of only replying to certain posts, try reading the entire thread, so that you can see all my posts, where you will clearly see I mention that the majority of "gangster owned guns" are guns that were, at one point, most likely legally owned and registered. Legally owned and registered guns are often used by "gangsters" after they've either stolen them from a home/business, or bought them from someone who stole them from a home/business.

Please refrain from reverting back to a 12 year old when posting in a serious topic, it makes Alberta sound like Texas.

This topic amuses me.

Why aren't you people trying to criminalize alcohol and cigarettes; two very legal things that kill so many more people both directly (the user) and indirectly (the family killed by a DUI, second hand smoke, etc) than guns?

Come on folks.

We know most people aren't responsible enough to handle dangerous things. Not only should guns be banned, we should ban cars, knives (yea, even butter knives), alcohol, cigarettes, Glade air freshener, white out, sharp pencils, dirty diapers.......

Actually - we should just criminalize procreation between humans - that would end all your arguments.

Show me your information you gleaned the illegal guns come from legal guns argument.

Hit yourself harder next time. Yet another clown from the peoples republic of Canuckistan.

For your information, I live in a pretty affluent suburb NW of Dallas.
Its a very low crime area, but you never know. I have had 10 years of
weapons training thanks to US Army, so I am hardly afraid, but confident
in my abilities.

If you want to depend on the "mounties" to take care of you, that's just fine.
But as can be seen from the events in New Orleans, the government cannot always be depended on to protect your ass.

The ammount of indo-chinese gang violence in Vancouver and its surrounding area's is miniscule. Granted, it exists. However, while it does exist, the ammount of it is so small, that unless you're in the drug business, I see no reason to worry.

I don't need to rely on a government to protect me. Canadian cities have their poor sections, obviously. However, Canada does its best to ensure that entire cities don't exist were every inhabitant is poor. The likelyhood of a rebellion against authority happening in Canada on the same scale as it is in New Orleans is slim. Why? For the most part, with the exception of the fine people from Alberta, the Canadian government, while lax when making sentancing laws for criminals, is a government that Canadians are happy to have.

And what's wrong with relying on the "mounties" to protect tax paying citizens? If my car is stolen or my house is burglarized, I'll call them and they'll come over and make a report. If I'm beat up by some thug wannabe kids, I'll goto the hospital and make a report. Hey, I can even give them descriptions of the people who beat me up so that they can make a composite sketch! I'd like to see a gun make a composite sketch. If you can find a gun that can peacefully resolve a situation (note: pointing a gun at someone is not exactly defined as peacefull), then maybe I'll be able to see why Americans cling onto something that was written 200 years ago when owning a gun was neccesary to protect yourself from Natives trying to kill you for bringing over your disease and whisky, thus ensuring their death from either tuburculosis or alcaholism.

Edit: Edited for blatant misuse of the word "from".

I'd rather have a gun and not need it, then need a gun and not have it.

Then you are an idiot. Pure and simple. As long as those darkies are killing each other it'll be okay.

I guess you've never been in a club downtwon Vancity when one of them decide to open fire in the club. Or at another one where this time, one of BCB do it.

You talk straight out of ignorance.

And I'm sure that if you have drug crazed individual on PCP, who bashes your head in with a baseball bat, that the city will provide you a nice coroner and autopsy AT NO COST TO YOU.

Then the "mounties" can jump in, and you can rest peacefully knowing that they "always get their man".

Vancouver, BC - Restrictive firearm legislation has failed to reduce gun violence in Australia, Canada, or Great Britain. The policy of confiscating guns has been an expensive failure, according to a new paper The Failed Experiment: Gun Control and Public Safety in Canada, Australia, England and Wales, released today by The Fraser Institute.


The contrast between the criminal violence rates in the United States and in Canada is dramatic. Over the past decade, the rate of violent crime in Canada has increased while in the United States the violent crime rate has plummeted. The homicide rate is dropping faster in the US than in Canada.

?It is an illusion that gun bans protect the public. No law, no matter how restrictive, can protect us from people who decide to commit violent crimes. Maybe we should crack down on criminals rather than hunters and target shooters?? says Mauser.

http://www.fraserinstitute.ca/shared...sNav=nr&id=570

I'd rather carry a gun than a knife, that way I don't have to get upclose and personal with the dirtbag.

As far as this discussion goes how can anyone not see the benefits of owning a firearm after seeing what has just happened to people in New Orleans? No way could you protect your property without owning one.

I'm not a club going person. I prefer to have a nice dinner with friends. Clubs are for attractive people to get drunk and occasionally dance. You claim I talk out of ignorance, yet your posts reak of it. How often does an East Indian open fire in a nightclub in Vancouver? Yeah, it's rare. Just like plane crashes are rare.

The last thing we need is everyone in the club packing a gun. One guy shoots, causing everyone else to shoot everyone else. Even if someone has a good shot at the person shooting, their still more likely to miss in the heat of the moment and shoot the person standing next to the guy. Case in point. A cop here recently shot through the windsheild of a stolen SUV that was ramming his partners police cruiser. He injured the driver-the person actually controlling and causing the police chase and subsequent police car ramming. He killed the passenger, the guy who was just holding on hoping not to get shot.

Being a 12 year veteran of the police, he's obviously had his fair share of firearms training. I don't care how steady your arm is, if everyone is shooting, then everyone is going to miss, or hit the person they werent aiming for.

Who would've thunk it?
No really.
Who would've finally pieced together that people cause the problem and not "objects".

Again speaking out of ignorance. I have a permit to carry my firearm. One fo the "rules" is that it cannot be carried in an establishment that derives it's main income from the sale of alcohol. What I failed to mention in my post about the night club shootings that the spilled out into the street.

But, you rationalize everything by saying you don't hang around the darkies, you don't go down those alleyways, blah blah blah. keep that mentality, it's what gets you killed.

Where did I say owning a gun for target shooting or hunting was a bad thing? I didn't say that anywhere. I said it was a bad thing to own a gun because you're terrified of your fellow citizens.

legally registered? no i will not refrain from calling you names because you are indeed an idiot.

ever heard of the USA and Canadian illegal gun trade? guns for weed? probably not because by your posts it seems you are truly stupid.

why do you think the USA has such a big issue with the legaliztion of weed in Canada? GUNS.

use your brain now little one, everyone else seems to agree with me in that you are the idiot in this thread. so i am not calling you names just stating a FACT.

Good point

Who said anybody was terrified?

When I go water skiing, I wear a life jacket not because I'm terrified of Drowning, but just in case it turns out I need it.

I'd much rather have a gun and not need it, than need a gun and not have it.

I don't hang around the darkies? I have several East Indian, chinese, japanese, and yes, even a black friend! So what you're saying when mentioning that the shootings are outside of the nightclub, is that there was probably some sort of altercation? Okay, so if someone has a problem with you, simply walk away. Only fools "take it outside".

I'll stick with my "I'm safe because it can't happen to me" mentality, simply because it will not happen to me. To live in a country where you must constantly be on your guard, or be aware that "It WILL happen to me" would make me want to move.

Murder rates are falling in the United States and on the rise in Canada. Why is that do you think?

Even with the rising murder rates in Canada, they're still tiny when compared to the United States. And considering how many of the murders in Vancouver are drug related, I'm not exactly worried. If someone chooses that path, they know full well their likelyhood of being shot to death increases. Another popular spot for murderers here is husband and wife stuff. Man cheats on wife, wife kills man, wife gets house arrest. Woman cheats on man, man kills wife, gets 10 years, serves 2 and gets out.

Edit: I can think of two murders in or around Vancouver this year that weren't related to drugs. Two.

Oh now we have darkie friends, right? Earlier, you don't hang around that crowd.

Make up your mind.

Wait, forget you are right. No one picks on the geeks, no rep for beating on the weak. Yah, you're safe.

Earlier I said I didn't hang around with or near East Indian thugs. I didn't say anything about hanging around with the friendly East Indians.

Edit: And where'd you get the geek part from? Assuming that I'm a geek because I don't enjoy clubbing is ignorant, sir.

If you notice teh rioting... that's one reason, number two, people break into homes, number three, I like to shoot, it's a sport. NUmber four, I hunt, often, actually really often, so I think that'll cover all the steps

Is that right? Your posting conveyed to me reading it, that you considered all EI's thugs. You not saying anything to the contrary only bolstered it, in my eyes.

Where do I get the geek from? Look in the mirror. It comes across very apparent on GFY.

As does you being an idiot.

I have one in my house and one in my car. Will I ever need them to defend myself? Who knows. The recent events in NOLA pretty much proved that things can happen where you will most assuredly need a gun to protect yourself and your loved ones.

But I'd rather have a gun I never need for defense than NOT have one when I need it.

Way to go P!

Rad! More name calling in what was once a serious topic. When you're done passing through puberty, come back and we can continue this discussion. Also, I've noticed you've developed some type of remote viewing technique to the point that you can view me, sitting in my office, all the way from Florida, while simotaneously arguing over the internet. Once you've gotten over calling people names on the internet, could you possibly come and teach me how this remote viewing works? I would love to finally be able to see what people are doing while I'm messaging back and forth with them.

I can understand if one person is calling you an idiot, but we seem to have a majority vote here. Even from your fellow Canadians.

Stfu dweeb.

The only fellow Canadians calling me an idiot here are an Albertan and someone who now lives in Costa Rica. People from Alberta are as American as a Canadian can get before they're just considered an American, and WarChild seems to hate everything about the Canadian government. Not exactly shining examples of your average Canadians. :2 cents:

Edit: Edited slightly to remove name calling potential. You can never be to safe on GFY.

You are an idiot.

So because they dont' agree with your views, they aren't "real canadians".

just like those darkies, eh?

I didn't call you an idiot, please don't put words in my mouth. I have no ill will towards you, I'm just trying to participate in this discussion.

I don't hate everything about Canada. It's a beautiful country, where I have lived by choice most of my life.

I have decided to leave Canada, at this point in my life, mainly because I'm not fond of cold weather and there's a substanial tax benefit to me not living in Canada.

If I truly hated Canada, I would give up my citizenship as opposed to just being a non-resident.

What? Where'd you get that from? I said your average Canadians. I didn't say anything about them not being real Canadians. Unless you type slow and saw my post before I edited it slightly.

If what you said above was written after you read the edited version of my previous post, then you have serious reading comprehension issues.

True, I should have scrolled up to read what you said to me again before I added you to my above post. Sorry

There may be some arguments in this thread, but if there's one thing everyone can agree on, it's that

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How old are you? 18? 19?

You are easily fucked with, and highly opionionated. Have you left BC?

I have, several times.

I'm a life long Vancouver resident and I agree with most of PenisFace's points.

I took a day trip to Seattle yesterday and I experienced more fear in that one day than I have had in 20+ years in Vancouver.

PS: Don't call me any names. I'm very fragile :winkwink:

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I look at gun ownership as a human rights issue...

I should have the right as a human to feed myself, cloth myself, shelter myself and PROTECT myself and family from any threats...


guns fall into 2 of those areas, the feeding and protection part obviously...


If you want the government to take care of everything for you and wipe your ass while living in a socialist world, great, that's your choice and your culture...and not the same preference that everyone else in the world must share...although apparently some people wish that everyone should hold the same view they do, maybe someone should stick a gun in our face and MAKE US think that way ;)

Fuzzy,

Does it help you understand the saying "Better tried by 12, than carried by 6"?

Don't worry, BC is on it's way. The drug trade is too big. It accounts for a large percentage of BC GNP. Without Weed, BC would fall into a recession.

It's like having Colombia right on your borders, though with a natural versus man made drug.

I am a gun owner. I live in Florida and all I have to say is look at the madness hurricanes can cause with armed looters!

Plus in America it is our constitutional right :winkwink:

I can understand why you would need protection..the world is full of sick fucks

I'll tell you why? Because when you come home to the house you just bought and find that your side door has been kicked in. You start to wonder what would happen if my family was home and all I had to fend off a crack fiend was bad language.
I'm buying my shoot gun this week. And I swear that I will put a 3 inch hole into that guy if he comes back.

Whoa back up a second, cocaine is not a chemical, it's derived from a plant.

Now I know you're going to say it has to be processed. Do you think Marijuana, a plant that's actually a weed, grows in the wild producing the big juicy buds BC is famous for? Of course not. If you don't seperate the male plants from the females those buds become flowers and you're left smoking the leaf.

In summation, both Cocaine and Marijuana are "natural" drugs. :thumbsup

Lol... i'm not quite sure why the above was directed towards me as I haven't realy mentioned anything about drugs...

All I really said was that PenisFace had a few good points and that you had a few good points as well... And that I feel much safer in Vancouver than *ANY* city in the US.

Really? The law in Vegas allows you to shoot people for breaking in to houses. Interesting. Most states, in fact I thought it was federal, but you can't shoot people for breaking in to your house. Now, if they have a knife or a gun you can shoot them and probably won't go to jail for too long but I didn't know there was any state allowed the killing of another human being over property or trespass.

Glad you caught the guy though.