Please tell me these animal rescue foundations aren't out looking for animals in N.O. - GoFuckYourself.com

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 01:05 PM

Someone make me feel better and tell me they are in other areas and not New Orleans? You will help restore some faith in humans for me......

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 01:18 PM

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/511069-animals-help.html

Give to noah's wish! Nevermind there might be an 86 year old grandmother still trapped in her home without food and water... but god forbid that some mangy racoon maybe stuck in a tree somewhere!

Animal people have some fucked up priorities.

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/511069-animals-help.html

Give to noah's wish! Nevermind there might be an 86 year old grandmother still trapped in her home without food and water... but god forbid that some mangy racoon maybe stuck in a tree somewhere!

Animal people have some fucked up priorities.

I saw that thread but on their website it says they are in Slidell. That's bad enough but if these people are in New Orleans floating around saving animals I'm going to be sick.

escorpio · 09-02-2005, 01:22 PM

animals are people too!!!!!
*wrings hands and puts on PETA t-shirt*

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 01:23 PM

As they are looking for domesticated creatures, they are probably avoiding certain portions of New Orleans atm.

After Shock Media · 09-02-2005, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio

animals are people too!!!!!

Shouldnt that read, people are animals too!!!!!

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

As they are looking for domesticated creatures, they are probably avoiding certain portions of New Orleans atm.

Ouch! 678

RuthB · 09-02-2005, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media

Shouldnt that read, people are animals too!!!!!

after everything we've witnessed over the last couple days, sadly that seems to be true of quite a few

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

As they are looking for domesticated creatures, they are probably avoiding certain portions of New Orleans atm.

The point is that's a fucked up waste of resources that SHOULD be diverted to helping HUMANS.. get these PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING AND HUNGRY sorted out first... then worry about the animals..

jesus christ.

MetaMan · 09-02-2005, 01:32 PM

i fully agree, why i love animals recourses should be used much much better,

it just shows how mankind has given up on eachother when we donate to save animals first instead of our brothers.

there is nothing 100% wrong with it, but it is sad.

animals are innocent and need help, but so are the people.

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

The point is that's a fucked up waste of resources that SHOULD be diverted to helping HUMANS.. get these PEOPLE THAT ARE SUFFERING AND HUNGRY sorted out first... then worry about the animals..

jesus christ.

Well they are using private resources in their efforts, not public tax dollars, so they can place their priorities where ever they please.

Bump for the cause: www.noahswish.com

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Well they are using private resources in their efforts, not public tax dollars, so they can place their priorities where ever they please.

Bump for the cause: www.noahswish.com

Pitiful.

MetaMan · 09-02-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

i fully agree, why i love animals recourses should be used much much better,

it just shows how mankind has given up on eachother when we donate to save animals first instead of our brothers.

there is nothing 100% wrong with it, but it is sad.

animals are innocent and need help, but so are the people.

to make another point, basically what i am saying is if i had family/friends down there trapped and with no place to go, i would be praying to God that people donate to help them before the animals.

people have to look at situations as if it happened to them and react that way.

Scott McD · 09-02-2005, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

That's bad enough but if these people are in New Orleans floating around saving animals I'm going to be sick.

Yeah, let's save the ones running about with guns causing more havoc.

I'd save the 'real animals' first...

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 01:45 PM

Bump for a trully important and urgent cause: http://www.redcross.org/

save people first... then animals.. you twisted fucks

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

people have to look at situations as if it happened to them and react that way.

well I doubt if they're going to turn away from helping some person in dire need of urgent assistance if they come across them in their travels, but they are there to rescue lost pets.

Remember when you were a little kid? Which would have hurt more, missing a meal or losing a pet forever? It puts a sense of normalcy back into the life of people who have lost everything else.

www.noahswish.com

TheJimmy · 09-02-2005, 01:51 PM

I value 'some' animal's lives more than 'some' humans...sorry but it's true.

And this is not to be construed as any racial shit, I cant' stand predatory criminals from any race, sex, religion, position on the evolutionary ladder...period.

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That being said...of course human life saving should be a priority, I doubt anyone's going to argue that seriously...also, consider taking care of the animal situation will also potentially save human injuries and lives (consider spread of disease from animal bites, etc...)

it's a balancing act, and I respect anyone dealing with fixing this mess right now...

MetaMan · 09-02-2005, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

well I doubt if they're going to turn away from helping some person in dire need of urgent assistance if they come across them in their travels, but they are there to rescue lost pets.

Remember when you were a little kid? Which would have hurt more, missing a meal or losing a pet forever? It puts a sense of normalcy back into the life of people who have lost everything else.

www.noahswish.com

"well I doubt if they're going to turn away from helping some person in dire need of urgent assistance"

are you fucking BLIND!? the entire fucking city is in need of dire help!

look at your dam tv, there is people dying everywhere.

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

well I doubt if they're going to turn away from helping some person in dire need of urgent assistance if they come across them in their travels, but they are there to rescue lost pets.

Remember when you were a little kid? Which would have hurt more, missing a meal or losing a pet forever? It puts a sense of normalcy back into the life of people who have lost everything else.

www.noahswish.com

what's more important? seeing little billy get his puppy dog back? or seeing hungry homeless people be fed and sheltered?

when your trying to raise support for saving the animals your diverting charitible funds and resources away from more important things like helping people! can you not see that?

Am i crazy to think that instead of repeatedly posting that link to the save the animals shit is less important than posting links to charities to help your fellow human?

MetaMan · 09-02-2005, 01:59 PM

im sorry but the money should be used to build housing projects for the people until the city is partially rebuilt.

i am not cussing out anyone who gives, giving to ANY charity is a good deed, i am just saying that the money could be used for better things.

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

"well I doubt if they're going to turn away from helping some person in dire need of urgent assistance"

are you fucking BLIND!? the entire fucking city is in need of dire help!

look at your dam tv, there is people dying everywhere.

I don't think that any of them are going to starve to death before they're able to find a meal somewhere, something which most of them can help themselves with.

There are plenty of other ways they could benefit from assistance, however there are also plenty of charities set up for those purposes already.

The animals however had no choice in their situation, they did not have the benefit of being able to understand that they should have left a week prior to the hurricane, and even if they had some instinct telling them that, they were trapped there indoors anyway.

Now some people are willing to help them and get them to a more humane enviroment. Aren't they just terrible?

I placed a link on the very top of my TGP to this charity, I urge others to do the same: www.noahswish.com

Helping the animals doesn't mean neglecting humans.

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I don't think that any of them are going to starve to death before they're able to find a meal somewhere, something which most of them can help themselves with.

Thanks for proving that you are talking out of your ass 100%. People are dying from no food and water, can't go anywhere, and are living like shit. That's not even considering the ones trapped inside their homes if they've managed to survive this long. Your spam is pathetic, take it somewhere else.

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

I don't think that any of them are going to starve to death before they're able to find a meal somewhere, something which most of them can help themselves with.

Thanks for proving that you are talking out of your ass 100%. People are dying from no food and water, can't go anywhere, and are living like shit. That's not even considering the ones trapped inside their homes if they've managed to survive this long. Your spam is pathetic, take it somewhere else.

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

People are dying from no food

No one goes from being healthy to starving to death from lack of food in under a week. Hungry, yes. Starved to death, no.

You are spreading misinformation.

ninavain · 09-02-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Well they are using private resources in their efforts, not public tax dollars, so they can place their priorities where ever they please.

Bump for the cause: www.noahswish.com

either you are joking or you are a fucking dumbass..please tell me you are joking..no offense, but fuck the goddamn pets...geezus

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

No one goes from being healthy to starving to death from lack of food in under a week. Hungry, yes. Starved to death, no.

You are spreading misinformation.

No food, no water, no medicine, no air, many injuries, 95 degree weather. You do the math or turn on the TV with your eyes and/or ears open. Whatever you see on TV multiply it by 10 and you might begin to grasp how bad it is.

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 02:45 PM

DUDE, OPEN YOUR MIND! Do you honestly think a person down there floating around helping animals would pass up a person who needs help? FUCK NO. Everyone is down there to help everyone. I am sure the people who are helping other people down there help any animal they come across. It?s a team effort to help ALL life and in all situations.

What the fuck is with this shit? I can't believe how many small minded people think there should be only one effort and do not have the capability of seeing how all efforts can come together to restore order from every direction. We can do more than one thing at a time. There is not only one way and one way only. It's just stupid ignorant to believe so. The more volunteer people/groups going down there, for whatever their cause or reason, the more aid, supplies and help they bring to the whole area. These are heart loving people not closed minded assholes.

And believe it or not animals help people out so much in many more ways than one. For instance think about a family who is safe now and has lost everything including their pet, who they consider part of their family. Now imagine the joy it would bring to them to have someone walk up to them and say here we found Sparky or Fluffy, as we were out trying to save and help anyone anything we came across. They have nothing to be happy about and that would give them a little bit of sunshine.

Spreading joy in someone's heart and life in a situation like this does wonders for the all the people around them. I believe that is in the Buddhist teachings. The joy you give one person will spread joy to another person and then that person to another person and so on and so on. Right now those people need any type of positive feeling and hope they can get. The more people down there helping anything and everything, the more it will spread motivation and hope to all the people they come across to join the effort.

So quit being such a close minded clueless person full of hate!

I love animals and do not want to see them suffer either!

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

either you are joking or you are a fucking dumbass..please tell me you are joking..no offense, but fuck the goddamn pets...geezus

Open your fucking mind dumbass!

MetaMan · 09-02-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

DUDE, OPEN YOUR MIND! Do you honestly think a person down there floating around helping animals would pass up a person who needs help? FUCK NO. Everyone is down there to help everyone. I am sure the people who are helping other people down there help any animal they come across. It?s a team effort to help ALL life and in all situations.

What the fuck is with this shit? I can't believe how many people think there should be only one effort and do not have the capability of seeing how all efforts can come together to restore order from every direction. We can do more than one thing at a time. There is not only one way and one way only. It's just stupid ignorant to believe so. The more volunteer people/groups going down there, for whatever their cause or reason, the more aid, supplies and help they bring to the whole area. These are heart loving people not closed minded assholes.

And believe it or not animals help people out so much in many more ways than one. For instance think about a family who is safe now and has lost everything including their pet, who they consider part of their family. Now imagine the joy it would bring to them to have someone walk up to them and say here we found Sparky or Fluffy, as we were out trying to save and help anyone anything we came across. They have nothing to be happy about and that would give them a little bit of sunshine.

Spreading joy in someone's heart and life in a situation like this does wonders for the all the people around them. I believe that is in the Buddhist teachings. The joy you give one person will spread joy to another person and then that person to another person and so on and so on. Right now those people need any type of positive feeling and hope they can get. The more people down there helping anything and everything, the more it will spread motivation and hope to all the people they come across to join the effort.

So quit being such a close minded clueless person full of hate!

I love animals and do not want to see them suffer either!

im sorry but there are needy animals in SPCAs all over north america, why cant these animals provide the same care and comfort for humans?

im not saying it is ok that animals are trapped, none of this is ok, the entire situation is truely devastating and sadening,

it is not ignorant to think differently on the way resources should be spread. this is a disaster there is no right or wrong answers.

people are not saying animals are not important, they are just saying that humans should be looked after first.

the argument can go on forever,

anyone donating to ANY charity for animals or humans gets my major props..

Scott McD · 09-02-2005, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

No one goes from being healthy to starving to death from lack of food in under a week. Hungry, yes. Starved to death, no.

You are spreading misinformation.

Correct !!

I saw a woman on the news 30mins ago, she weighed about 450 pounds, and she was yelling at the cameras "i need food, i have no food"

No shit. She must have enough McD's burgers in her to last her till November...

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

either you are joking or you are a fucking dumbass..please tell me you are joking..no offense, but fuck the goddamn pets...geezus

No I'm not joking and BTW I'm the 'dumbass' that told your boyfriend he should look into shooting non-nude sets about a year ago when he was trying to pawn off those handjob vids and making about $2-3k/month.

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan

im sorry but there are needy animals in SPCAs all over north america, why cant these animals provide the same care and comfort for humans?

im not saying it is ok that animals are trapped, none of this is ok, the entire situation is truely devastating and sadening,

it is not ignorant to think differently on the way resources should be spread. this is a disaster there is no right or wrong answers.

people are not saying animals are not important, they are just saying that humans should be looked after first.

the argument can go on forever,

anyone donating to ANY charity for animals or humans gets my major props..

I am sure if there is a man drowning and pet drowning the animal people are going to say fuck the dog and go for the man. Anyone over the age of 12 has learned at least that nature of how the human species works.

I agree, donating to anything down there is the whole point. The more going down there for whatever reason the better!

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

DUDE, OPEN YOUR MIND! Do you honestly think a person down there floating around helping animals would pass up a person who needs help? FUCK NO. Everyone is down there to help everyone. I am sure the people who are helping other people down there help any animal they come across. It?s a team effort to help ALL life and in all situations.

What the fuck is with this shit? I can't believe how many small minded people think there should be only one effort and do not have the capability of seeing how all efforts can come together to restore order from every direction. We can do more than one thing at a time. There is not only one way and one way only. It's just stupid ignorant to believe so. The more volunteer people/groups going down there, for whatever their cause or reason, the more aid, supplies and help they bring to the whole area. These are heart loving people not closed minded assholes.

And believe it or not animals help people out so much in many more ways than one. For instance think about a family who is safe now and has lost everything including their pet, who they consider part of their family. Now imagine the joy it would bring to them to have someone walk up to them and say here we found Sparky or Fluffy, as we were out trying to save and help anyone anything we came across. They have nothing to be happy about and that would give them a little bit of sunshine.

Spreading joy in someone's heart and life in a situation like this does wonders for the all the people around them. I believe that is in the Buddhist teachings. The joy you give one person will spread joy to another person and then that person to another person and so on and so on. Right now those people need any type of positive feeling and hope they can get. The more people down there helping anything and everything, the more it will spread motivation and hope to all the people they come across to join the effort.

So quit being such a close minded clueless person full of hate!

I love animals and do not want to see them suffer either!

My mind is completely open. Here is how I look at it, everyone knows the situation in New Orleans. Everyone knows there are people stranded, starving, thirsty, stuck in attics, etc.

Now, how hould any decent human being on earth show up there with an agenda to go out and rescue animals? Sure, most everyone loves animals, they are all innocent, poor poor creatures. However, there isn't a chance in hell I could hop in a boat or walk down a street looking for animals when I know for a fact that there are PEOPLE dying daily in the same area. Even if I saw animals wandering around I couldn't picture stopping to help them knowing I could be out looking for people who are trapped.

I'm sorry but picking up people you happen to see while out rescuing cats and dogs just doesn't cut it with me. When New Orleans is drained and they find hundreds or thousands of dead people in their attics cluthing their husbands / wives / babies / brothers / sisters / how will the people who floated by that house to look for a stray cat feel?

Saving one person that would have otherwise died is worth diverting efforts from animal rescue. How about instead of looking for dogs but picking up people they "happen" to see they look for PEOPLE and pick up animals they happen to see on the way. Wouldn't that make more sense?

I'm sorry to have offended you, maybe my priorities are screwed but I put human life a few rungs above the poor starving animals.

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

DUDE, OPEN YOUR MIND! Do you honestly think a person down there floating around helping animals would pass up a person who needs help? FUCK NO. Everyone is down there to help everyone. I am sure the people who are helping other people down there help any animal they come across. It?s a team effort to help ALL life and in all situations.

What the fuck is with this shit? I can't believe how many small minded people think there should be only one effort and do not have the capability of seeing how all efforts can come together to restore order from every direction. We can do more than one thing at a time. There is not only one way and one way only. It's just stupid ignorant to believe so. The more volunteer people/groups going down there, for whatever their cause or reason, the more aid, supplies and help they bring to the whole area. These are heart loving people not closed minded assholes.

And believe it or not animals help people out so much in many more ways than one. For instance think about a family who is safe now and has lost everything including their pet, who they consider part of their family. Now imagine the joy it would bring to them to have someone walk up to them and say here we found Sparky or Fluffy, as we were out trying to save and help anyone anything we came across. They have nothing to be happy about and that would give them a little bit of sunshine.

Spreading joy in someone's heart and life in a situation like this does wonders for the all the people around them. I believe that is in the Buddhist teachings. The joy you give one person will spread joy to another person and then that person to another person and so on and so on. Right now those people need any type of positive feeling and hope they can get. The more people down there helping anything and everything, the more it will spread motivation and hope to all the people they come across to join the effort.

So quit being such a close minded clueless person full of hate!

I love animals and do not want to see them suffer either!

when the animals are found where will they be housed? how much man power will go into taking care of these rescued animals? you do realise that if animals are rescued they in most all cases can't be returned to homeless people in mass shelters as i'm sure animals won't be permitted. so what will happen to them?.. they will be placed in mass shelters themselves where man power and resources will be diverted to care and feed for them!

A waste and completely insane if you ask me. What you are asking of people when you are asking for charity to save these animals is basically to turn help and resources away from helping people.

and don't get me wrong here.. I consider myself an animal lover to as hard as that may seem to believe.. But let's get real here. You have tens of thousand of hungry homeless people down there. Asking people to valuble resources to this cause, even if it is a small percentage, is burdening your fellow human being. wether you are willing to admit it or not.

what's more important? a family pet or a family?

I think feeding and sheltering people is a higher priority than sunshine and rainbows right now.

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

My mind is completely open. Here is how I look at it, everyone knows the situation in New Orleans. Everyone knows there are people stranded, starving, thirsty, stuck in attics, etc.

Now, how hould any decent human being on earth show up there with an agenda to go out and rescue animals? Sure, most everyone loves animals, they are all innocent, poor poor creatures. However, there isn't a chance in hell I could hop in a boat or walk down a street looking for animals when I know for a fact that there are PEOPLE dying daily in the same area. Even if I saw animals wandering around I couldn't picture stopping to help them knowing I could be out looking for people who are trapped.

I'm sorry but picking up people you happen to see while out rescuing cats and dogs just doesn't cut it with me. When New Orleans is drained and they find hundreds or thousands of dead people in their attics cluthing their husbands / wives / babies / brothers / sisters / how will the people who floated by that house to look for a stray cat feel?

Saving one person that would have otherwise died is worth diverting efforts from animal rescue. How about instead of looking for dogs but picking up people they "happen" to see they look for PEOPLE and pick up animals they happen to see on the way. Wouldn't that make more sense?

I'm sorry to have offended you, maybe my priorities are screwed but I put human life a few rungs above the poor starving animals.

Hey you can disagree with me all you want. That's totally cool, but if there is anything that anyone should be really pissed off about, instead of some people looking for animals, are the fucking assholes down there shooting and looting and taking away efforts for saving people. Women getting raped, rescue boats getting attacked, helicopters getting shot at, scumbags looting fucking TV's and stereo's instead of helping people.

Cops having to spend effort on these fucking crack heads instead of helping people in need and you want to get pissed that people are helping animals? If you want to get pissed about something at least get pissed about something worth it!

Ninja Scripts · 09-02-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Hey you can disagree with me all you want. That's totally cool, but if there is anything that anyone should be really pissed off about, instead of some people looking for animals, are the fucking assholes down there shooting and looting and taking away efforts for saving people. Women getting raped, rescue boats getting attacked, helicopters getting shot at, scumbags looting fucking TV's and stereo's instead of helping people.

Cops having to spend effort on these fucking crack heads instead of helping people in need and you want to get pissed that people are helping animals? If you want to get pissed about something at least get pissed about something worth it!

I would have already shot every last one of them. Hopefully they have the crowds point out the culprits where some of this stuff took place and line em up execution style.

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

when the animals are found where will they be housed? how much man power will go into taking care of these rescued animals? you do realise that if animals are rescued they in most all cases can't be returned to homeless people in mass shelters as i'm sure animals won't be permitted. so what will happen to them?.. they will be placed in mass shelters themselves where man power and resources will be diverted to care and feed for them!

A waste and completely insane if you ask me. What you are asking of people when you are asking for charity to save these animals is basically to turn help and resources away from helping people.

and don't get me wrong here.. I consider myself an animal lover to as hard as that may seem to believe.. But let's get real here. You have tens of thousand of hungry homeless people down there. Asking people to valuble resources to this cause, even if it is a small percentage, is burdening your fellow human being. wether you are willing to admit it or not.

what's more important? a family pet or a family?

I think feeding and sheltering people is a higher priority than sunshine and rainbows right now.

Read the site! All your answers are in there! http://www.noahswish.com/

Like I said in the other post if you want to get pissed about anything get pissed about the scumbags looting raping shooting at each other and cause MORE effort to stop them that could go to helping humans!

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 03:07 PM

Really, I don't get why you're so upset that people are out there helping in some capacity they believe in during this event when they could very well be simply sitting on a message board arguing with people instead of doing something productive.

Loryn · 09-02-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Scripts

I would have already shot every last one of them. Hopefully they have the crowds point out the culprits where some of this stuff took place and line em up execution style.

That I agree with! Those are the fuckers that make me so damn mad. All the energy and time cops and the coast guard have to spend on those fuckers instead of helping good people makes me so mad I want to go down there and just start picking those fuckers off one by one. What purpose do they serve? If they are acting like this in a situation like this. I can only image what type of morals they have in everyday life!

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

If they are acting like this in a situation like this. I can only image what type of morals they have in everyday life!

It's the biggest party in the world with a bunch of free stuff and no reason to work for some of them. And they're shooting at anyone who tries to put an end to it.

Sucks for everyone else stuck down there.

Malicious Biz · 09-02-2005, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Read the site! All your answers are in there! http://www.noahswish.com/

Like I said in the other post if you want to get pissed about anything get pissed about the scumbags looting raping shooting at each other and cause MORE effort to stop them that could go to helping humans!

There's not much I can do for this situation except speak out against what I feel is nonsense. I do think your efforts are noble but very misguided.

As I see it any and all efforts and resources should be directed towards helping HUMAN BEINGS. once you have people safe, fed, and sheltered then by all means help the critters. But until then put forth all efforts into helping mankind first for the love of hell.

BellaSeaira · 09-02-2005, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

Remember when you were a little kid? Which would have hurt more, missing a meal or losing a pet forever? It puts a sense of normalcy back into the life of people who have lost everything else.

www.noahswish.com

Well if it were just one meal maybe I would of picked the animal but that is not the situation. The dicision is starvation and dehydration. Dying a slow painfull death or saving a dog or cat.

Can you honestly tell me you would rather save your family pet and watch your child starve to death? Or know your mother is traped in a house somewhere in need of serious medical attintion but would rather them save a dog and take it to a vet?

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 03:47 PM

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The dicision is starvation

Healthy human beings do not starve to death in 5 days. It just doesn't happen.

Peaches · 09-02-2005, 03:53 PM

If you don't want to donate because you don't believe in the cause then don't. It's pretty simple. Telling others who they should and shouldn't donate to seems rather silly, IMO.

NetRodent · 09-02-2005, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Peaches

If you don't want to donate because you don't believe in the cause then don't. It's pretty simple. Telling others who they should and shouldn't donate to seems rather silly, IMO.

This is a perfect example of democracy (of the wallet) in action. Democracy requires a dialog and both sides in this debate make valid arguments. As a society we'd be much worse off if people weren't raising the issues raised in this thread. However both sides have to accept that its ultimately up to each individual to decided where to donate their money.

ninavain · 09-02-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Loryn-Adult.com

Open your fucking mind dumbass!

With all due respect, not trying to be closed minded, but you don't waste VAULABLE water, space and resources on a animal, when the humans aren't being taken care of yet. Anyway you look at it, it's a waste of vaulable thought processes and planning to go after pets. I love animals, but I love humans a tad bit more and right now, my money is going to the REDCROSS, while you're powers are out pushing to save Lassie...Can't agree with you hun, sorry to offend you. No need to call me a dumbass, because I see a grave situation unfold. You have your ideas and have have mine...just mine are with 95% of the country.

SureFire · 09-02-2005, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BellaSeaira

Well if it were just one meal maybe I would of picked the animal but that is not the situation. The dicision is starvation and dehydration. Dying a slow painfull death or saving a dog or cat.

Can you honestly tell me you would rather save your family pet and watch your child starve to death? Or know your mother is traped in a house somewhere in need of serious medical attintion but would rather them save a dog and take it to a vet?

I believe you missed the point. No one would save a family pet and watch their child or any family member die (I hope). Most people donate to causes that they believe in and should not be judged.

Most people who donate have no connection with the people in need. I actually feel sorry for the people who left their pets behind to seek shelter for their family and glad there is a non-profit group looking out for pets.

It would break my heart to leave my cat that doesn't even know the outside and I would have some hope with non-profits like this that he could be saved even if I never saw him again.

Call me whatever, JMO

AmateurFlix · 09-02-2005, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ninavain

No need to call me a dumbass

Who started calling people a dumbass first?

It was you when you called the person who gave your boyfriend the idea for badgirlbucks a 'dumbass'. Enjoying your lifestyle?

BTW I'm the same person who is holding the sole distribution rights to that hardcore video you made that you, and I quote your boyfriend here, "don't want spread all over the net". Out of kindness I pulled it from the market when I heard you regretted having made it.

Please be more considerate of others ideals. At least that of mine and others helping with this cause.

Cory W · 09-02-2005, 04:28 PM

Nice post Loryn.

I donated a good amount of money yesterday for both personal relations in New Orleans as well as webmasters4america.com. The issue in New Orleans is not due to people donating to animal causes, it is due to people not using the funds received to help people.

Helping animals in disasters is a wonderful thing. It is not new and should not stop because our system has failed us. Animal activist serve one aspect in helping out during disasters. They are vital. It is simply not their fault that our country did not send help.

So because Africans are starving, we shouldn't send money to other charities? It is all relative. Louisiana is my birthplace. I am just happy to see people helping.

SoloGirlsContent · 09-02-2005, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AmateurFlix

No I'm not joking and BTW I'm the 'dumbass' that told your boyfriend he should look into shooting non-nude sets about a year ago when he was trying to pawn off those handjob vids and making about $2-3k/month.

Oh Fuck you dude! You pissed because I blew the fuck up? Now I know. Good, fucker find your puppies, while I donate more of my Non-nude $$$ to the Red CRoss to help HUMANS that BUY porn...not fucking cats

09-02-2005, 01:05 PM	#1
Ninja Scripts Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Retired Posts: 1,032	Please tell me these animal rescue foundations aren't out looking for animals in N.O. Someone make me feel better and tell me they are in other areas and not New Orleans? You will help restore some faith in humans for me......

09-02-2005, 01:22 PM	#4
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 23,101	animals are people too!!!!! wrings hands and puts on PETA t-shirt __________________ Unvaxxed, still alive.

09-02-2005, 01:23 PM	#5
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	As they are looking for domesticated creatures, they are probably avoiding certain portions of New Orleans atm. __________________

09-02-2005, 01:51 PM	#17
TheJimmy ICQ- five seven 0 2 5 5 0 Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 10,747	I value 'some' animal's lives more than 'some' humans...sorry but it's true. And this is not to be construed as any racial shit, I cant' stand predatory criminals from any race, sex, religion, position on the evolutionary ladder...period. . That being said...of course human life saving should be a priority, I doubt anyone's going to argue that seriously...also, consider taking care of the animal situation will also potentially save human injuries and lives (consider spread of disease from animal bites, etc...) it's a balancing act, and I respect anyone dealing with fixing this mess right now... __________________ Investor with 5m - 15m USD to invest. Do you have a site or network of sites earning 50k - 200k a month income? Email your contact and preliminary data to: domain.cashventures (at) gmail.com....Please...no tire kickers...serious offers and inquiries only.

09-02-2005, 02:45 PM	#27
Loryn Super Connector Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 12,853	DUDE, OPEN YOUR MIND! Do you honestly think a person down there floating around helping animals would pass up a person who needs help? FUCK NO. Everyone is down there to help everyone. I am sure the people who are helping other people down there help any animal they come across. It?s a team effort to help ALL life and in all situations. What the fuck is with this shit? I can't believe how many small minded people think there should be only one effort and do not have the capability of seeing how all efforts can come together to restore order from every direction. We can do more than one thing at a time. There is not only one way and one way only. It's just stupid ignorant to believe so. The more volunteer people/groups going down there, for whatever their cause or reason, the more aid, supplies and help they bring to the whole area. These are heart loving people not closed minded assholes. And believe it or not animals help people out so much in many more ways than one. For instance think about a family who is safe now and has lost everything including their pet, who they consider part of their family. Now imagine the joy it would bring to them to have someone walk up to them and say here we found Sparky or Fluffy, as we were out trying to save and help anyone anything we came across. They have nothing to be happy about and that would give them a little bit of sunshine. Spreading joy in someone's heart and life in a situation like this does wonders for the all the people around them. I believe that is in the Buddhist teachings. The joy you give one person will spread joy to another person and then that person to another person and so on and so on. Right now those people need any type of positive feeling and hope they can get. The more people down there helping anything and everything, the more it will spread motivation and hope to all the people they come across to join the effort. So quit being such a close minded clueless person full of hate! I love animals and do not want to see them suffer either! __________________ ~ loryn@loryntaylor . com ~ RIP TD Last edited by Loryn; 09-02-2005 at 02:47 PM..

09-02-2005, 01:18 PM	#2
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/511069-animals-help.html Give to noah's wish! Nevermind there might be an 86 year old grandmother still trapped in her home without food and water... but god forbid that some mangy racoon maybe stuck in a tree somewhere! Animal people have some fucked up priorities.

09-02-2005, 01:32 PM	#10
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	i fully agree, why i love animals recourses should be used much much better, it just shows how mankind has given up on eachother when we donate to save animals first instead of our brothers. there is nothing 100% wrong with it, but it is sad. animals are innocent and need help, but so are the people.

09-02-2005, 01:45 PM	#15
Malicious Biz So Fucking Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Put Shoe On Head Plz Posts: 4,575	Bump for a trully important and urgent cause: http://www.redcross.org/ save people first... then animals.. you twisted fucks

09-02-2005, 01:59 PM	#20
MetaMan I AM WEB 2.0 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,682	im sorry but the money should be used to build housing projects for the people until the city is partially rebuilt. i am not cussing out anyone who gives, giving to ANY charity is a good deed, i am just saying that the money could be used for better things.

09-02-2005, 03:07 PM	#38
AmateurFlix Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 7,762	Really, I don't get why you're so upset that people are out there helping in some capacity they believe in during this event when they could very well be simply sitting on a message board arguing with people instead of doing something productive. __________________

09-02-2005, 03:53 PM	#44
Peaches Old broad Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Away Posts: 13,933	If you don't want to donate because you don't believe in the cause then don't. It's pretty simple. Telling others who they should and shouldn't donate to seems rather silly, IMO.

09-02-2005, 04:28 PM	#49
Cory W Deeply shallow Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Hollywood, Ca. Posts: 9,133	Nice post Loryn. I donated a good amount of money yesterday for both personal relations in New Orleans as well as webmasters4america.com. The issue in New Orleans is not due to people donating to animal causes, it is due to people not using the funds received to help people. Helping animals in disasters is a wonderful thing. It is not new and should not stop because our system has failed us. Animal activist serve one aspect in helping out during disasters. They are vital. It is simply not their fault that our country did not send help. So because Africans are starving, we shouldn't send money to other charities? It is all relative. Louisiana is my birthplace. I am just happy to see people helping. __________________ ICQ: 292310358 Offering writing and content services (mainstream). Marketing for L3 Payments