Chameleon Submitter vs. Dream Submitter???

I like chameleon submitter myself.

i use advancedsubmitter

chameleon

if ya need a tutorial... http://babagirl.com/ChamSub/

advanced submitter by far

chameleon rocks

same

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I am currently using Chameleon submitter, it seems to be ok. Most of the traffic is useless. Do both submitters use the same DB pretty much? What does Dream have that Chameleon doesn't?

Chameleon user here

either way a custom db is the way to go and i like dreamsubmitter
easy scheduled auto submits
can turn it into a freesite submitter, link dump submitter, whatever

That question can't be answered that easily, it's as if someone comes up with the question "What's the better car, BWM or Mercedes?". It always depends what you want. If you want to make as much money as possible then go with Dreamsubmitter or Advancedsubmitter, they are the most professional tools and offer the most features. But be prepared that you'd have to work and learn for your money.
If you'd just like to submit a gallery every now and then without much hazzle, and don't want to maintain your own DB of sites then go with chameleon.

I'm using Dreamsubmitter and Advancedsubmitter (obviously)

I agree, most professional gallery submitters with large amounts of traffic use dreamsubmitter.

I get over 500k unique hits a day to my galleries and I use DS.

Dreamsubmitter now offers 1 on 1 walk throughs and video help files for ease of use. Try it for 2.95 for a full month.

what about novasubmitter anyone try it?

Dreamsubmitter, no competition for it. None!

Two different beasts all together.

Look DS is a far superiour product. 1.9 kicks some serious ass. I use it every single day.

Advanced Submitter CAN'T autosubmit correctly.

Thanks guys.

DreamSubmitter is harder to use but give better results
right ?

who many tgps in database for DS?

Dream Submitter hands down and you can take that to the bank.

there are databases out there over 4000 sites. What you are not understanding is that dreamsubmitter doesnt sell itself with a "huge database" that everyone and their dog is using which generates shitty amounts of traffic but impresses people that don't know any better.

Dreamsubmitter sells itself with its superior funtionality, customizability, efficiency, and accuracy. Most submitters that make 10K+ a month use dreamsubmitter.

And dreamsubmitter has top notch support that will provide step by step walkthroughs for even the newest of newbies.

But dreamsubmitter trial for 2.95 comes with full program functionality with a 200 site tgp database and a 200 site mgp database. And i must stress, the trial is to test the software capabilities, not the database. When users like our software and want a larger database they can either purchase a 3 month membership in advance (or if they've been with us for 3 months) they get access to our large databases which are 700+ MGPs and 1000+ TGPs. Or they can talk to some of the other GFYers that are selling databases, i believe hjnet is offering one that is 4000+ sites.

So regardless of if you are a newbie gallery submitter or a seasoned veteran when it comes to gallery submitting, dreamsubmitter beats everything else hands down.

I hope this helps!

Thanks man, you answered lots for me!

np anytime

What can dreamsubmitter do that chameleon cant? I use chameleon and i dont have a clue what else it should do that it doesnt do now. Its really all you need imo.

i've used chameleon and advanced submitter... i love chameleon
haven't tried dream submitter though

Well I tried DreamSubmitter. And unfortunately I am not going to stick with it. I am not a professional submitter, but if I was I would give DS a closer look. It is very advanced, but that's not why I am not sticking with it.


1. I am not a professional submitter. I don't plan on making gobs of money submitting.

2. DS is geared for html galleries IMO. All the FHG's I use/make are php with the reseller id passed and dynamic scenes. So it only takes me a few seconds to switch that out. I don't have a huge need for the <---blah---> custom coding feature it uses.

3. The gallery generation was a bit buggy for me. It added and extra </body> and </html> tag in my code. I messed with this for an hour or so. After trying all sorts of crap here is what was choking it for me (not saying this is a huge problem). My galleries ended with a few single line breaks. I noticed the generator was adding those extra tags, and extra breaks. So I got rid of the breaks, and no more weird generated code.

4. When I started submitting I was not into the "one" window manual submit. In other programs you can pop 4 at a time, and while you press submit on one site, you can quickly move onto another site without waiting for loading, checking etc. I missed this in DS.




Now I want to end this is a positive manner. Here are the things I thought were really cool in DS...


1. How easy it is to make multiple profiles. If you submit a ton of sites, you can save contact info and other useful info in a profile and load it later on when you submit. My other submitter does not have this.

2. Scheduled submitting was cool. You can basically set up a ton of submissions for the future and set a time/date and the program will automatically submit for you. (I am not sure how this works with manual submits though, which is usually the better traffic)

3. I like the photo cropping tool. You can crop all the size in a click of the button, or take more time to create perfect thumbs, without Photoshop.

4. There are more customizable features in DS than my other submitter. Again, as I said before, I am not going to be a "pro" submitter, so for my purposes I didn't get into all the cool custom shit in detail. I just saw all of the fields you can add to submissions.

5. The customer support in DS was very good. The training videos, the saved ICQ conversations from past tech questions and quick ICQ contact were A++. I watched all the videos and went through the other material they give. It all helped out, and I was up and submitting in about an hour or so.

I REALLY wish the DS and my other program would join forces. A product put out by a combined effort would be flawless. But until then, I am choosing to stick with my other submitter.

Take the little time, and the $2.95 for the trial, and check out the program. Especially if you plan on making a lot of money from submitting. I am not saying this program is not good or anything, it just wasn't what I needed. And as you can see from the first replies on the thread, no one really got into the +'s or -'s of DS. So I thought I would share what I found.

Thank you for the constructive criticism, i will pass on your concerns to our programmer and have him address these. I also appreciate you telling us what you liked about the software.

Thanks for giving us a try, and good luck in the future for sure!

i use advancedsubmitter, they are the best