I'm not going to mention any names...BUT.....

That really blows hard cock!

He actually asked me what I pay for referrals.

I pay $3.62. That seems fair to me.

When people contact you about your product, perhaps it's best to tell them your price not ask what they are willing to pay.

Me: "Hello, Electric Company? Yeah...I want to know how much for electricity."

EC: "Well, I'm not sure. Different people have different rates that they want to pay. How much do you want to spend?"

Interesting, had that happen a few times in the past week.

Hey Craig. So am I out of line when I expect a recruiter/agent to have this info or not?

What do you think?

*laughs* AaronM thank you my dear for a MUCH needed laugh... I love you

Well since AaronM wont be a man and say that it was me he talked to then I guess i have to,lol

All i gotta say is I know what she will do and i told him. He wanted more than what she said she'll do. I said I talked about her doing masturbation and she said she has never done that before, she doesnt know. So i simply said do you want to talk to her and ask her if she will or me? I know that 2 second question "will you do masturbation" will kill all your time. I have no problem asking her.

I knew exactly what she would do before hand.

And i asked what his referral payout was and he immediately said i dont know what the fuck im doing and playing games.

If a question is playing games then i guess everyone plays games. Different companies will only pay a certain amount for a referral no matter what the fuck you want. They can easily find girls on their own with their own in house recruiters so they dont need to negotiate referral payouts.

This fucking idiot tried to bait me into posting his name for more exposure. Since that didn't work, he had to mention it himself.

I didn't ask your model to do more than you said she would do. Solo work in this business usually includes masturbation. You failed to specify if she would do that or not so I asked.

You are new to recruiting. No big deal. But don't try to bullshit me and dodge questions or try to pawn it off for me to do the work that you are trying to get paid for.

If/when you ever get your shit together, please let me know. You have decent recruiting skills but clearly lack common business sense.

Eddie-executive stop giving people the run around and you will get more biz. You have done the same thing with me. If you want 1000 bucks per girl just say so. Stick to your guns.

is all I gotta say. Hey Ed hows the domain brokering business going? You messin around with model brokering now, I thought you owned an electrical business Aaron, this guy is nothing more than a kid with a new scam every 3-6 months.

Lensman is doing this again?

I KNEW this was going to be about eddie!

That's pretty much what I figured. Even after I told him I had lost interest and to get his shit together he came back and kept trying...but with the same bullshit.

It's probably better to not get girls though him anyway. God knows WTF kind of bullshit lies and promises he may have made to them.

Why's that? Have you had experiences with him too?

Aaron, elevate yourself above this nonsense, NOTHING BUT TROUBLE, lies, lies and more lies. The king of bullshit, that is eddie.

look you loose canon

i was clear with everything i said, i think all that fat around your head swallowed your brain.

Pawn off the work for you to do?

You take business to personal and you throw out curses like your gonna shake me,lol

A real business man moves on if he doesnt want to work with someone. You have to come to the board where all your friends are to back you cause you can't deal with anyone on your own.

You make a point of me being new and not knowing what the fuck im doing. If thats true then why waste your time with a guy that doesn't know what he's doing? You seem to spend alot of time on me to try to break me down

Im done im not responding anymore with b.s.

I haven't had any experiences with him. I just know he was a complete newbie two years ago. I remembered a week ago he posted the message saying he had this new girl interested in the adult business and it dawned on me I had in mind you might of contacted him about it.

Nope just a nut hugger dont even know this dude. Ask him if he knows me or worked with me and see what he says. Go ahead ryot and tell him what business we did together:-)

Speaking from experience right? What bs and what lies have i done? I ll battle all the nut huggers on here i dont care,lol

Alot of imature people on this board that try to ruin good people, you being one of them.

Hows that paysite your doing where you designed a script to spider a bunch of well know tgp's to fill your members area?

Remember that?lol sounds real legit haha

You're not responding any more with BS huh? So, you mean we might get some honest answers out of you then?

I did try to move on. I told you I had lost interest. You continued until I finally put you on my ignore list.

Fuck off kid.

Oh the paid tgp? Working well, and when you want to lie about 150 dollar AFF signups, you should make sure your not signed up under me idiot Dont make me get the screenshot

I can easily verify it. I never signed up under you put the crack pipe down.

Charity approved it and i was paid I had a $149.95 signup thats all that matters, wether you beleive it or not thats your business. I can't be worrying about kid shit like that.

Keep spidering thehun for your members area.

yep that aint you alright

Wow your actually right for once partly. I must of signed up under you awhile back when I first talked to you on ICQ before you became shady. But your still calling me a liar about getting a $150 signup and im staring right at my stats. If you want verify it with an AFF rep. Whatever floats your boat. I'm not about to download a screen cap program just for this. Like i said i got paid and thats what matters. You got nothing on me. Grow up and stop trying to start some bullshit lies to make someone look bad. Didn't get enough of that in highschool?

Suggestion #2:

If you have been in this business for more than 30 days and you still have not figured out that ATL + PrtSc = screen cap copied to your clipboard.....Get the fuck out now.

Oh now THIS is fucking golden.


Sorry Eddie but this one's gonna sting ya a bit.

From: B

Date: Sep 1, 2005 10:36 PM

Subject: RE: Hello B, I think we should chat.

yeah hes pissing me off! he is so flippity floppity. im not too sure if he was lagit or not...so im kind of weird about the whole thing. he would call me then say he doesnt have anything together and he feels funny talking to me and i make him feel weird then he would hang up. then he wrote me and said hes not interested and never mind. then he called me back and asked him to forgive him for being like that...now im just confused..if you can be staight up and nicer to me and treat me like a person, you have me....if you would like to give me a call and talk then my number is xxxxxxxxxx. thank you so much!
Breanna

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: AaronM
Date: Sep 1, 2005 7:13 PM

I dont know if you know this Edman guy or whatever name he may go by on MySpace but he is showing your pictures and saying that you are available for adult modeling.

I'm very interested in working with you but this guy has no idea what he is doing and he can not give me any straight answers. I am a patient person but this is just silly.



Now, maybe you should shut the fuck up and listen to people when they tell you how it really is.

Fucking punk ass kid.




You have just been O.W.N.E.D.

Just my two cents about him. He understands that some people pay a $1,000 referral fee and some pay less. He does ask the model what she will do and not do. I have talked to him and talked to a model that he referred. It was all done in a very professional manner.

You might want to edit out the models phone number AaronM.

Posting his name in this thread wasn't the smartest thing to do

Doctor AaronM *didn't* mention his name...

Aaron, I got your Player Codes.

Pimp on...

He's still a fucken tool.

Some people don't know how to quit when they are ahead

Your point was already made there budy

You sure? Because I have more where that came from.......

excuse me....

Just to let everyone know this girl was very hard to deal with. She flies off the handle over everything i asked her. Shes one of those girls that are really hard to deal with, and if you've been in this business you know there are many girls like that. I was going to tell anyone who was interested in her beware shes hard to talk to.

It all started when i asked her what she'll do. She said she won't have sex but in the same sentence she mentioned doing bondage before. So i said in a joking way you did bondage but you won't have sex? She immediately flipped out and said YES BUT I WAS FULLY CLOTHED BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!

How the fuck was i supposed to know that she was fully clothed? When someone says they did bondage thats pretty wild. Whats next im going to hear girls sucking dick but not using their mouth?

This bitch is stupid and really tense on the phone. I even sent her an email saying im not interested in working with you. She sent me an email back saying "hi are you sure, I have the pics for you?" So i figured i make a thread to see if anyone was interested in her and go from there. She just needs to feed her coke habit its plain to see now.

As far as AaronM you can say whatever you want im done with your bullshit. Your shady anyway. You said you had your eye on this girl before me and you wanted to contact her so I said go for it. I said it doesnt meen shell work for you, this is a competitive business. You said "oh i would never do that to you" Guess thats not true is it now?

Or did you just contact her to stir up some more drama cause your still into highschool kid shit? Anyway talk on, I'll still do what i do. Im a nice guy and always will be and NEVER do anything shady.

Done. reply all you want.

Eddie you will NOT win this argument. While Aaron and I essentially loathe each other I will be the first to admit that he knows more about this business than any other TEN producers that post here. Bar none. I have a LOT of respect for the fat bastard. My suggestion is for you to try and LEARN from this situation that is rapidly approaching debacle status and move on.

alos i just called her asked her whats up, she said some dude is messaging her talking shit about me. She said hes interested in working with me.

So i said yeah your talking shit on me too behind my back with him.

I said he posted your email and i read it. She flat out lied and denied saying that. So my point is made she is a bitch coke head, good luck AaronM with that one.

You two are perfect together both shady

Oh and don't post my full name on this board ok? There is a reason why people use nicks on forums. Like i said your shady so you'll do things like that.

Bondage has nothing to do with sex.

I know but is pretty extreme compared to sex.

omg hottt, love thick white girls

look at those thick white legs!!!!!!!

post the vagina pics.

Ok I give up.

I approached Eddie this morning about buying some fansign type promo stuff and other content. I've never spoken with him before today.

This is a transcript of our conversation after my initial post in this thread:



edman1978 (10:31 AM) : damn lol these girls are funny
jimthefiend (10:32 AM) : lol whys that?
edman1978 (10:32 AM) : just a bitch girl i was trying to recruit not anymore
jimthefiend (10:35 AM) : what happened?
edman1978 (10:36 AM) : 1 sec
edman1978 (10:39 AM) : this fucking dude aaronm is a trip
jimthefiend (10:39 AM) : hes a fucking horses ass
edman1978 (10:39 AM) : i dont care who works with or what friends he has on that board hes a fat fuck
jimthefiend (10:39 AM) : im not trying to slam you either
edman1978 (10:40 AM) : he doesnt understand their is models that are hard to deal with
jimthefiend (10:40 AM) : he has a lot more money to sling around, that makes them easier to handle see what i mean?
edman1978 (10:41 AM) : i dont care i dont anyones ass to make money
edman1978 (10:41 AM) : thats cool your his friend but your post makes me look bad in that thread also, your just backing him
jimthefiend (10:42 AM) : i am not his friend
i fucking HATE him and everyone knows it
edman1978 (10:42 AM) : u have respect for someone you hate?
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : fuck that if i hate you i hate everything about you
jimthefiend (10:43 AM) : yes, is that so hard to grasp?
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : lol later man im not in the mood
edman1978 (10:43 AM) : age?
jimthefiend (10:43 AM) : hunh? 36
edman1978 (10:44 AM) : ok just checking alot of dude on here are like 18 and i have no time to play games
jimthefiend (10:45 AM) : lol ok man
and you CAN respect someones talents without liking them personally man. you need to learn that asap.
specially in THIS business.
edman1978 (10:46 AM) : actually i understand that completely i work with assholes all the time thats life. I was talking on a personal note
jimthefiend (10:46 AM) : i dont know what that means, you just said you couldnt respect someone you hated
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : on a personal level
jimthefiend (10:47 AM) : lol ok
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : on a business level i dont give a fuck
edman1978 (10:47 AM) : look at donald trump look how many people hate him but he's still a billionaire
jimthefiend (10:48 AM) : youve lost me. hey i gotta run for a few.
edman1978 (10:48 AM) : speak english?
edman1978 (10:48 AM) : lol








Dude THAT is why you'll never go anywhere in this industry. You have the communications skills of a retarded 3 year old child in a coma, you're arrogant to the point of being impossible to deal with, and you refuse to learn from your mistakes.

Dealing with people the way you so obviously do is WHY you are in the ownage status you are now.


I fucking TRIED to help you.



Fuck this.

I bet you are right

Of course she is gonna be a little difficult to deal with. Most 19 year olds are....Hell, most models are. This is why not everybody can be a recruiter or photographer.

A girl tells you she has done bondage and you assume it was a naked thing? A lot of bondage is done fully dressed. You would know this if you had done your homework about this biz beforehand.

Calling me shady because I contacted her is a crock of shit. Yes, I did say that I would not go behind your back and that I would be happy to pay your referral fee...BUT...Then you continued to be the idiot that you are to the point where I put you on ignore. I'm not going to do any business with you. You had your chance to do things the right way and make some money but you gone done and fucked that up.

This is my favorite part....:

"You said you had your eye on this girl before me and you wanted to contact her so I said go for it. I said it doesn't mean shell work for you"

Too funny. As if you are the MySpace king and nobody else can do what you have done. Not only can I recruit off there but obviously I can do it with a little more professionalism than you can.

As I said before, there's nothing wrong with being new to this but there is when you don't have your ducks in a row and have to bullshit and stumble your way through it. In one thread you are trying to represent a potential model and in this thread you are calling her a stupid bitch.

People should know their place in this business. If you have been around for a couple of years, tried a few different things, and still don't have shit figured out then maybe you should go back to flipping burgers and leave the rest to the people who know WTF they are doing.

Jim, yeah we have had our problems in the past but for what it's worth...Seeing you post that just bumped you back up a notch on the respect scale. Most people who don't like me are too blinded by hate to see anything else. I appreciate that about you. Thank you.

So, you continue to bother her even though you think she is a stupid bitch? lol

As for posting your full name...I don't even know your full name. I thought you were done replying?

low level drama, move on with your lives please

I have never ONCE impuned your talents or business knowledge.

We had a PERSONAL matter that caused some PERSONAL drama and I was very happy we were both mature enough to keep the specifics of said drama off the boards.

It's water under the fucking bridge, long time since. And it was never really all that important anyway was it?

Anyway...

I'm not an idiot Aarom and I'm well aware that no one gets to where YOU are by being a clueless moron.


I'm not kissing any ass here, just stating simple fact.

Personally I think everyone should have there name under there Handle. It alot more Pro.