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xNetworx · 08-30-2005, 01:09 PM

http://foto.lucien.it/eventi/biennal...biennale05.htm

Pickled fetus head fuels art furor

ZURICH (Reuters) - A sculpture made with the pickled head of a dead fetus attached to a seagull's body has fueled a furor in Switzerland about the boundaries of art.
Berne's Museum of Fine Arts removed the piece from a Chinese art exhibition earlier this month after a complaint that it was disrespectful to the dead, and following concerns its grisly appearance might traumatize visiting schoolchildren.

The piece, named "Ruan," stole headlines in Swiss newspapers when artist Xiao Yu confirmed that the fetus head was real.

Now the museum's management will decide next week whether to reinstate the work, which sits pickled in a jar of formaldehyde.

"As a result of the complaint it was taken out of the exhibition with the proviso that there would be a debate about the boundaries of art," museum spokeswoman Ruth Gilgen said.

Earlier this week, ethics experts, artists and art lovers argued at a conference in Berne that keeping the work under wraps was an affront to freedom of expression.

Swiss journalist Adrien de Riedmatten, who lodged the complaint, had demanded to know where the head came from.

"The complaint was not about restricting artistic freedom but rather about where this fetus had come from and how the artist found it," Gilgen said.

She said the head had belonged to a fetus conceived sometime in the early 1960s. It was later a museum exhibit.

"It had formed part of an exhibition in formaldehyde in Peking," Gilgen said. "When that came to be renewed, it fell into the hands of the artist."

Concerns that the fetus might have come from a forced, late-term abortion could not be substantiated, Gilgen said.

FUCKING GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!

RuthB · 08-30-2005, 01:12 PM

art?

that's just messed up

xNetworx · 08-30-2005, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by WEGRuth

art?

that's just messed up

Yup... thats why my comment in my post was "FUCKING GROSS!"

knought · 08-30-2005, 10:17 PM

fucking grosss art!

chaze · 08-30-2005, 10:19 PM

Don't like it

emthree · 08-30-2005, 10:28 PM

That guy sucks at art..
He should of put it on a monkey's body

tony286 · 08-30-2005, 10:29 PM

if it makes you feel then its good art.

eroswebmaster · 08-30-2005, 10:32 PM

The decline continues.

boner 2.0 · 08-30-2005, 10:32 PM

Bad taste. wtf is wrong with people calling it art?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude · 08-30-2005, 10:43 PM

Museum curators have certain responsibilities, particularly if they operate a public museum. One is to ensure that if they have audiences such as young children, that they not display items which may traumatize them.

Some people make art that appears to have been created mostly for it's shock value. If there are people that wish to view such art, it would more appropriately be exhibited in a gallery that condones such displays and sufficiently warns patrons about the nature of the artwork (and in cases such as this one, excludes children).

For the same reason I do not patronize web sites such as Orgish, I would not visit a gallery that exhibited something so abhorent.

I do not deny artists the right to express themselves legally, however I also reserve the right to not support all art and artists.

ADG Webmaster

xNetworx · 08-30-2005, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude

Museum curators have certain responsibilities, particularly if they operate a public museum. One is to ensure that if they have audiences such as young children, that they not display items which may traumatize them.

Some people make art that appears to have been created mostly for it's shock value. If there are people that wish to view such art, it would more appropriately be exhibited in a gallery that condones such displays and sufficiently warns patrons about the nature of the artwork (and in cases such as this one, excludes children).

For the same reason I do not patronize web sites such as Orgish, I would not visit a gallery that exhibited something so abhorent.

I do not deny artists the right to express themselves legally, however I also reserve the right to not support all art and artists.

ADG Webmaster

Well said

reynold · 08-31-2005, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by boner 2.0

Bad taste. wtf is wrong with people calling it art?

i would say that too. i don't see any art with dead fetus.

Dagwolf · 08-31-2005, 01:07 AM

I don't think human flesh should be used as an art medium. A doll's head on a pickled seagull would have done as well...

zentz · 08-31-2005, 01:30 AM

if you say so...

Redrob · 08-31-2005, 04:32 AM

While it is not my cup of tea, I think the discussion of the "boundaries of art" is worthy of discourse.

I would find it ironic if adult webmasters called for censorship when they are all potentially targets as well.

There are already laws in place that deal with the defilement of corpses even for art's sake.........

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xNetworx So Fucking What Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whore Island Posts: 14,445	Now this is art (pic) http://foto.lucien.it/eventi/biennal...biennale05.htm Pickled fetus head fuels art furor ZURICH (Reuters) - A sculpture made with the pickled head of a dead fetus attached to a seagull's body has fueled a furor in Switzerland about the boundaries of art. Berne's Museum of Fine Arts removed the piece from a Chinese art exhibition earlier this month after a complaint that it was disrespectful to the dead, and following concerns its grisly appearance might traumatize visiting schoolchildren. The piece, named "Ruan," stole headlines in Swiss newspapers when artist Xiao Yu confirmed that the fetus head was real. Now the museum's management will decide next week whether to reinstate the work, which sits pickled in a jar of formaldehyde. "As a result of the complaint it was taken out of the exhibition with the proviso that there would be a debate about the boundaries of art," museum spokeswoman Ruth Gilgen said. Earlier this week, ethics experts, artists and art lovers argued at a conference in Berne that keeping the work under wraps was an affront to freedom of expression. Swiss journalist Adrien de Riedmatten, who lodged the complaint, had demanded to know where the head came from. "The complaint was not about restricting artistic freedom but rather about where this fetus had come from and how the artist found it," Gilgen said. She said the head had belonged to a fetus conceived sometime in the early 1960s. It was later a museum exhibit. "It had formed part of an exhibition in formaldehyde in Peking," Gilgen said. "When that came to be renewed, it fell into the hands of the artist." Concerns that the fetus might have come from a forced, late-term abortion could not be substantiated, Gilgen said. FUCKING GROSS!!!!!!!!!!!

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