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Old 08-30-2005, 03:47 PM   #51
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Stealing is wrong period. Just because it's easy to steal doesn't make it right or justified. To use the theory that insurance will be paying for it is ridiculous, everyone will pay more for insurance for a few lowlifes and losers to get their jollies off of stolen booty.
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:55 PM   #52
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Look at each of the looters, they have huge smiles (no saddness over loss of homes, etc.), they are so happy they can steal for 'free' today.
Exactly what I saw - these scumbags need some type of fucking wakeup call - I didn't see anyone in a few pictures running out with food in their arms.
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there were reports that cops were at walmart with everyone else breaking into shit and taking it away.... and at a drug store in NO the cops said the people could come in and soon as they were done getting emergency supplies
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there were reports that cops were at walmart with everyone else breaking into shit and taking it away.... and at a drug store in NO the cops said the people could come in and soon as they were done getting emergency supplies
Show pictures of the cops, and I think that will be an adequate response to your comment.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:15 PM   #55
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we can sit here and argue over something like looting but we are forgetting the big picture...

these people just lost everthing they had, which for most wasn't much at all.
Some lost family members and if you have been watching CNN you will see that their are young children who can't find their moms or dads...
I think looting is the least of the worries right now...

There is always going to people in any situation that take advantage but that doesn't mean that everyone that lives in Nola are criminals or low lifes... Criminals and theifs live in nice areas too, hell they might even live next door to you...lol
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:15 PM   #56
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Look at it this way. You are telling someone who has had nothing their entire life, barely enough to put clothes on their back, that they can loot and take anything they want for free. As much as I disagree with it, it is human nature to take what we can get. Look at file sharing and how many people just download songs for free. Is that better because it is more of a white collar crime?

On the other hand, it is pathetic. Although some are grabbing food for survival, others are grabbing TV, jewelry and anything else they can grab of value. There is a reason people are grabbing boxes of diapers instead of baby food.

I agree with a point made earlier. We hear about people in poor neighborhoods complaining about no jobs or businesses in the area. Well now we see why. Do you think the guy who owns a shoe store on the corner is going to re-open in that same neighborhood? For any excuse they make up, all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:18 PM   #57
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Food for thought:

Once the food supply runs out, I bet the guy with the tv and the Nikes will be able to trade for more food than the guy who took the moral high road.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:26 PM   #58
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Yup....TVs, DVD players and Nikes are essential for survival.

Do those things still work? I thought they would be ruined from the water damage. Where do they even put them after they are stolen??
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:27 PM   #59
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Look at it this way. You are telling someone who has had nothing their entire life, barely enough to put clothes on their back, that they can loot and take anything they want for free. As much as I disagree with it, it is human nature to take what we can get. Look at file sharing and how many people just download songs for free. Is that better because it is more of a white collar crime?

On the other hand, it is pathetic. Although some are grabbing food for survival, others are grabbing TV, jewelry and anything else they can grab of value. There is a reason people are grabbing boxes of diapers instead of baby food.

I agree with a point made earlier. We hear about people in poor neighborhoods complaining about no jobs or businesses in the area. Well now we see why. Do you think the guy who owns a shoe store on the corner is going to re-open in that same neighborhood? For any excuse they make up, all they are doing is shooting themselves in the foot.
I would show sympathy if people were getting FOOD. The mindset of the remaining populous is extremely clear, "Fuck Food, they will give me that soon, I'm getting some bling while I can".

This is indicative of the entire problem. When chaos ensues, the scabs on society fester. It happens everytime!

Do not put their decisions they have made in life, as some guilt trip on me, and make society continually pay for their misfortune.

This country has gotten way to soft on this shit for fear of being labeled. It is clear this was going to happen as soon as the storm hit.

Care to wager on what will happen next?

It is a text book example:

1. Event happens that occupies law enforcement.
Result: looting

2. Looting is now complete. Lets resort to violence.
Result: riots (riots will ensue at the Superdome shortly)

3. Rioting is done, blood has flown. Lets now do a cash grab.
Result: Queue Jessie Jackson and Rev Sharpton

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Old 08-30-2005, 04:34 PM   #60
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"To be honest with you, people who are oppressed all their lives, man, it's an opportunity to get back at society," he said.



Believe it or not.. this is what it all comes down to. These people have NOTHING.. are not attached to their houses.. this Hurricane is just another issue on top of many others they are used to all their lives. So they dont give a fuck and just SURVIVE and make the best possible out of EVERY situation.

When a REAL disaster happens nation wide (nukes?) and only a few HUMANS are able to survive guess what race that will be....
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:36 PM   #61
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Whitey scared in its basement screaming "outfall outfall!"

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black dude: "more free beer and lets kill whitey!!"

I can see it happen haha
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:42 PM   #62
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When a REAL disaster happens nation wide (nukes?) and only a few HUMANS are able to survive guess what race that will be....

Hmmm, maybe the same ones that built all of society, and everything in it? Just a thought.

For the looting mentality to maintain itself (survival as you call it), they need someone's hard work to pilfer from.
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:45 PM   #63
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Wow, many of you here are fucking idiots and ignorant! You sit back and judge and somehow you feel fucking superior and comfortable with your way of life. I would love for one day for you to be out of your comfort level and see what you'll do. Think outside the box and sympathize what others are going thru.

It's not just a black/white issue.... Do you realize there's 3 or 4 states with diverse people who are displaced and disshoveled?? I understand about looting food and basic needs but materialistic possesions I don't
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Old 08-30-2005, 04:50 PM   #64
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I think the quotes of "we were opressed our whole lives" is complete garbage and a lame excuse to steal. These excuses are just made up so that they can justify committing a crime. We make excuses after trials, after events, after winning championships that justify looting. Come on, it's a bunch of crooks taking advantage of other people. What if it was your house and your possesions being looted?
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:03 PM   #65
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All you people sitting back in your nice homes putting judgement on these people. It must be nice to sit back relaxed in your air conditioned place of residence, with food, shelter, and family. Watching the people on the news who have lost their homes, family, and their lives try to survive.

Fucking scum passing judgement in the way you have.
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:12 PM   #66
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It is flabbergasting that so many people on here and in our industry have such narrow fucking racist views/ideas/beliefs. One would think that an industry that is constantly shunned/judged/misread etc would weed out the idiots that can't think beyond their own fucking front porch, sorta like natural selection. Apparently this is not the case, the number of people on here that are fond of blaming shit on race, be it black or white, is god damn staggering!

The looting doesn't have shit to do with race, never has never will. I don't give a fuck what circumstance you are talking about; a trial, a sports event, a god damn disaster, People can and often take Complete Advantage of misfortune and or opportunity and or both, to pin that on any one race is absolutely fucking IDIOTIC. The news shows a bunch of black people looting and we take a "well what do you expect they are black, you don't see the white people doing that, white people were smart enough to evacuate" stance as if the news is handing us an objective fucking view of the situation...Get Real.

Not to mention most of you have no ability to fucking empathize; that fortunately (I'd think) is an entirely different post!
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Old 08-30-2005, 05:12 PM   #67
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sweetcuties and potter couldn't have said it better....

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shut the fuck up

looting is in the heart of everyone, its free shit. 95% of the shit they are taking probably doesnt work anyway.

nola is full of poor and low income families, looting was predictable.
and that is an excuse?
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A looter just shot a policeman in the back of the head
Maybe that's just the motivation needed to start shooting some worthless fucks. I don't condone stealing but I understand the need to steal food and water to survive and the "overlooking" that has gone on so far by the police for the folks raiding essentials.

But when you see some fucker helping himself inside a Jewelry store - that one needs a cap in his ass!
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and what would happen to that beer if it just sat there? IT WOULD GO BAD

so what is a dude taking the beer going to hurt ? nothing at all

whats going to happen to all that food just sitting out? IT WILL GO BAD

people taking it isnt going to hurt anything

Thank you for confirming your idiocy for me once again.

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Dude are you dumb? New Orleans is 80% underwater. Most people don't have any homes anymore and looting is the only way to survive. When the city is under martial law you can't exactly just go around and get food.
Yeah, they need that jewelry, tv's, and beer to survive!
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All you people sitting back in your nice homes putting judgement on these people. It must be nice to sit back relaxed in your air conditioned place of residence, with food, shelter, and family. Watching the people on the news who have lost their homes, family, and their lives try to survive.

Fucking scum passing judgement in the way you have.

Um, been there and done that. 9-11, I had no home for 3 months because it was 2 blocks away. I was walking around that area all day long on 9-11 with no one around to stop me. I can honestly say, that not once did I think of taking something that wasn't mine. My friends and relatives had to talk me into going to red cross to get help for me and my wife and kid.

Some of us steal, some of us leach off of others,very few of us pull up our fucking boot straps and get on with it.

If people need help that is one thing. Stealing when other people are down is the fucking lowest of the low.
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Food for thought:

Once the food supply runs out, I bet the guy with the tv and the Nikes will be able to trade for more food than the guy who took the moral high road.

I think you just made me sad . . . are you trying to justify this theft?
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sweetcuties and potter couldn't have said it better....


I gave you too much credit
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I don't care if someone has nothing. If they need help to live and survive those services are available. At no time is theft acceptable. Any argument to the contrary is ridiculous dramatic babble.
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I don't care if someone has nothing. If they need help to live and survive those services are available. At no time is theft acceptable. Any argument to the contrary is ridiculous dramatic babble.
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Um, been there and done that. 9-11, I had no home for 3 months because it was 2 blocks away. I was walking around that area all day long on 9-11 with no one around to stop me. I can honestly say, that not once did I think of taking something that wasn't mine. My friends and relatives had to talk me into going to red cross to get help for me and my wife and kid.

Some of us steal, some of us leach off of others,very few of us pull up our fucking boot straps and get on with it.

If people need help that is one thing. Stealing when other people are down is the fucking lowest of the low.
Amen. It is those that think humans turn to criminals without law enforcement or 'nothing left to lose' that are the enablers for the criminals. The apologists will think of every excuse to account for people's complete disregard for how civil society functions.
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karma? this has nothing to do with karma.

people are looting because they have nothing and nola is full of low income families.

new orleans has a 34% poverty rate

people are going to take whatever they damn well please.

nola is full of thugs, villians, and outcasts. its just how we do it in the south.
thank you it wasnt the garden of eden lol
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I gave you too much credit
well baddog if you had read my earlier post in this thread then maybe you would feel differently... in no way was i saying that stealing is ok or even ok in this type of situation....

all i said was that in a time like this when families have been taken from each other and children can't find their parents and the babies don't have food or diapers that maybe we shouldn't be arguing about something like looting, instead why not put all our engery in this argument on a chat board into helping those who need it.

Do you realise that their are families with small children stuck in their homes which are filling with water, and there is nothing they can do... some of them have cell phones that they have been able to use to call family members out of state to say their good bye's or plead for help... something to think about isn't it baddog ?

i'm planning on going into Mexico this weekend to help relieve families....what are you doing to help out??????

maybe i gave you too much credit
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niggers got their booze, next they will be drunk and start

rioting. Superdome won`t be safe place this night
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I think you just made me sad . . . are you trying to justify this theft?
All I'm saying is when survival is suddenly your first priority, the fact that you can't afford to pay for something becomes irrelevant. If you have a starving child or a sick spouse, you're going to do what it takes to save him or her. If stockpiling goods is the best way to provide for yourself in the long term, then that's what you'll do.

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are *you* dumb? dont you read about how they are not just looting food, they are looting jewelry and other valuables? they need the gucci watches to survive eh?
When did I say they did? The extreme amount of racism in this thread is making me sick and people just accept it. I agree that looting jewelry is dumb, but when people go "lol black people figures they steal gucci and nike and they they go back to mud pits where they belong lol in africa right guys?" Seriously, being racist isnt helping the situation, and neither is calling people out for what other people do.
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All I'm saying is when survival is suddenly your first priority, the fact that you can't afford to pay for something becomes irrelevant. If you have a starving child or a sick spouse, you're going to do what it takes to save him or her. If stockpiling goods is the best way to provide for yourself in the long term, then that's what you'll do.

1) Find or build shelter
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Yeah, I can see why stealing tv's and Nikes would be such a priority.
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if i lost everything i own due to a hurricane like that.. you better believe im gonna loot a jewelry store.. the fucking jewelry is insured anyway. the shop owner doesnt lose shit.

cut the moral shit out.
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I would love to see how some people here react when their home gets flooded and they got no where else to go and don't know what the fuck is going on. But wait, we are all perfect
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if you look at the video they had shit eatting grins on their faces as they were looting.

If you loot a grocery store to feed the family, fine.... but most of these guys went for the jeans, jewelry etc. Shit even carjackings. come on. Drop the thug shit for a week .
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reading some of the responses in this thread is a good wake-up call as to who to trust and who really would fuck ya in 2 seconds

Would I loot food if I really needed it? ya probably
Is there a reason to take a bat and smash a jewelry shop window and grab everything possible - NO never
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:34 PM   #91
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well baddog if you had read my earlier post in this thread then maybe you would feel differently... in no way was i saying that stealing is ok or even ok in this type of situation....

all i said was that in a time like this when families have been taken from each other and children can't find their parents and the babies don't have food or diapers that maybe we shouldn't be arguing about something like looting, instead why not put all our engery in this argument on a chat board into helping those who need it.

Do you realise that their are families with small children stuck in their homes which are filling with water, and there is nothing they can do... some of them have cell phones that they have been able to use to call family members out of state to say their good bye's or plead for help... something to think about isn't it baddog ?

i'm planning on going into Mexico this weekend to help relieve families....what are you doing to help out??????

maybe i gave you too much credit

Exactly. I also stated in my first post that I did not condone the looting. I was merely saying everyone here was far to quick to judge while packed away in their nice cumfy chairs.
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:37 PM   #92
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if i lost everything i own due to a hurricane like that.. you better believe im gonna loot a jewelry store.. the fucking jewelry is insured anyway. the shop owner doesnt lose shit.

cut the moral shit out.
Wow, your knowledge of how retail insurance works and what it takes to build a small retail business is breathtakingly non-existent.

I'll tell you what, if it was my store and you were trying to loot it, I would just shoot you. "cut the moral shit"? I guess that you have never worked to build anything of any substance in your life. I hope someday you have a chance to grow up and care about anyone else but yourself.

I guess that this means that if you and I were doing business and you saw a way to steal from me and not get caught.... you would take it. NICE.

As for the people that are saying that these people have not choice, and are just trying to help their families, then why didn't they do "whatever it took" to get their children out of danger in the first place?

I don't care if I had to walk out of town. I HAVE been homeless and poor, and if I had children in that situation, I would do whatever it took to save them, and that means NOT putting them at risk by staying when the storm was coming in.

The stuff being stolen has NOTHING to do with survival at this point. It's just people acting like animals.

Just my lil' old opinion.
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:37 PM   #93
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Old 08-30-2005, 07:37 PM   #94
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All I'm saying is when survival is suddenly your first priority, the fact that you can't afford to pay for something becomes irrelevant. If you have a starving child or a sick spouse, you're going to do what it takes to save him or her. If stockpiling goods is the best way to provide for yourself in the long term, then that's what you'll do.

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Old 08-30-2005, 09:08 PM   #96
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All you people sitting back in your nice homes putting judgement on these people. It must be nice to sit back relaxed in your air conditioned place of residence, with food, shelter, and family. Watching the people on the news who have lost their homes, family, and their lives try to survive.

Fucking scum passing judgement in the way you have.
hey, i WORKED for what I have. I didn't steal it from someone else. WORKED for it. Yes, I've been homeless with no money and no job and not eaten anything but scraps for a week. Now I make 6 figures. And I fucking WORKED for it.

So yeah, it IS nice sitting here watching it. From my perspective, pure fucking common sense says 'when your city is below sea level in an area that has things like hurricanes'...MOVE!
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Wow, your knowledge of how retail insurance works and what it takes to build a small retail business is breathtakingly non-existent.

I'll tell you what, if it was my store and you were trying to loot it, I would just shoot you. "cut the moral shit"? I guess that you have never worked to build anything of any substance in your life. I hope someday you have a chance to grow up and care about anyone else but yourself.

I guess that this means that if you and I were doing business and you saw a way to steal from me and not get caught.... you would take it. NICE.

As for the people that are saying that these people have not choice, and are just trying to help their families, then why didn't they do "whatever it took" to get their children out of danger in the first place?

I don't care if I had to walk out of town. I HAVE been homeless and poor, and if I had children in that situation, I would do whatever it took to save them, and that means NOT putting them at risk by staying when the storm was coming in.

The stuff being stolen has NOTHING to do with survival at this point. It's just people acting like animals.

Just my lil' old opinion.

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