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Old 08-29-2005, 07:02 PM   #1
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Credit card thieves and scammers are bad..

except if they are making money for ISP's, Hosting companies and Affailate programs, right? Fucking wrong!

Big fucking drama coming soon. Concidering the proof we have some fucking idiots are really testing my patience.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:04 PM   #2
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:08 PM   #3
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:08 PM   #4
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this might be big, securing a spot as well...
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:08 PM   #5
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:13 PM   #6
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The price of doing business these days don't like it don't accept CC's
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:30 PM   #7
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The price of doing business these days don't like it don't accept CC's
So i should stop accept CC's because of one guy? I dont think so Tim, I'll go after the problem instead.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:33 PM   #8
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Here is the scoop.

We have been getting some Chargbacks coming in the past few weeks, it turns out that all these CB'c are coming from the same bunch of network of scammers. What they are doing is buying one month passes with stolen cards.

ISP/Hosts: All these scammers have the same range of IP's. These IP's are are going to the same ISP that is also a hosting provider that we are all VERY familiar with. I called them on Friday and Emailed them today....still no word.

Affilate Programs: Here is how fucking stupid these scammers are, they buy the "bad" passes and submit galls right? They also buy "good" passes and they used the same affilates ID's. Not to mention that we found the same aff. ID's on TGP's all over. To make a long story short, We were able to track them down with the affiliate ID's. Two programs were more than happy to help us, if fact thats how we were able to be sure who these guys are. There are however two programs that have said shit like "it cant be, he is a big affilate". Is he big enough for you to be known as the program that supports scammers? Prolly not.

Next Monday (if we have all info) we will be posting complete details and hopefully these guys will be shut down.

Good night

ps. Something tells me that the Host/ISP's and Affilate programs that are not cooperating, soon will
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:35 PM   #9
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this could get interesting. But I would make DAMN sure that you have the right info.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:38 PM   #10
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this could get interesting. But I would make DAMN sure that you have the right info.
My partner Johnny and myself have been on this 8-10H a day since Friday. We sure are close to having all the info we need.

But yea, we will make sure.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:40 PM   #11
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There are however two programs that have said shit like "it cant be, he is a big affilate".
If someone can pull in enough sales most programs don't care how its done.
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:41 PM   #12
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Here is the scoop.

We have been getting some Chargbacks coming in the past few weeks, it turns out that all these CB'c are coming from the same bunch of network of scammers. What they are doing is buying one month passes with stolen cards.

ISP/Hosts: All these scammers have the same range of IP's. These IP's are are going to the same ISP that is also a hosting provider that we are all VERY familiar with. I called them on Friday and Emailed them today....still no word.

Affilate Programs: Here is how fucking stupid these scammers are, they buy the "bad" passes and submit galls right? They also buy "good" passes and they used the same affilates ID's. Not to mention that we found the same aff. ID's on TGP's all over. To make a long story short, We were able to track them down with the affiliate ID's. Two programs were more than happy to help us, if fact thats how we were able to be sure who these guys are. There are however two programs that have said shit like "it cant be, he is a big affilate". Is he big enough for you to be known as the program that supports scammers? Prolly not.

Next Monday (if we have all info) we will be posting complete details and hopefully these guys will be shut down.

Good night

ps. Something tells me that the Host/ISP's and Affilate programs that are not cooperating, soon will

i hate scammers also but many programs dont have anything in their tos that says how you can and can not get traffic.

running stolen cc's on you is not allways against the tos
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:41 PM   #13
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If someone can pull in enough sales most programs don't care how its done.
Yepp, to true
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:42 PM   #14
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Next Monday (if we have all info) we will be posting complete details and hopefully these guys will be shut down.

Oh man, im so looking forward to that

Cant you hurry it a bit? Next monday is a full week!
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:43 PM   #15
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i hate scammers also but many programs dont have anything in their tos that says how you can and can not get traffic.

running stolen cc's on you is not allways against the tos
No, but having fake mailling addresses beacause they are being paid via Epass is.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:47 PM   #16
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Oh man, im so looking forward to that

Cant you hurry it a bit? Next monday is a full week!
I hope to have all info by then. It was alot of work, there were about 25 passes bought. 5 or so of them CB'd, the rest of them we able to refund the CC before the poor fucker who got his CC hacked did a CB.

So 25 users, 25 emails, 2-3 domains each. All of them leading back to two guys (or a gang , or what ever the fuck)....alot of shit to investigate lol.

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:51 PM   #17
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So there are people involved we know?
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:54 PM   #18
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Old 08-29-2005, 07:54 PM   #19
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Before I go to bed

I know the "sammer" is reading this. Allow me to recap. We were able to get your affillate ID's from the galleries you submitted with your stolen card accounts. We contacted the programs, two of the programs confirmed your Epassporte ID's (they pay you via Epass.) You used the same Epassporte account to buy legit/legal passes from us. Helllllo McFly!!!

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Old 08-29-2005, 07:56 PM   #20
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So there are people involved we know?
Im sure some people know them

Ok thats it, im beat and I have a long day ahead of me tomorrow. Good night folks (for the 4th time).

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