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Nysus 08-31-2005 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
Similiar strategy here, going from a handful of seed basewords and then exploding into hundreds of thousands of keywords. Its the manual labour of removing those useless keywords that's the time consuming part. I'm surprised you kept over 25% of your initial phrases though, I typically keept 5-7%.
WG

I definitely understand and agree with your concerns of outsourcing; I have the same. It's a lot of work ...

Oh, and I don't think keept is a word. :pimp

Matt

RogerV 08-31-2005 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WiredGuy
I'm looking for opinions from people who have outsourced in the past. A lot of the repetitive work that I've considered outsourcing I'd consider a trade secret (keyword filtering, keyword list generation). Anyways, from the internal scripts I have here onsite, we generate hundreds of thousands of keyword suggestions and the repetitive portion of the work involves manually going through the keywords and determining if they are relevant to the niche / market being targetted. Once this list is filtered, I consider the final list a very valuable resource or trade secret.

In the past I have hired students to do this, but for some smaller niches, the market size is not worth the cost of hiring locally but it is for outsourced operations. I'm wondering what are your thoughts on outsourcing a resource that you consider valuable should it fall into the hands of competitors? Also bear in mind the persons working on this would have to be very proficient in English.

Thanks everyone.
WG

Be carefull or everyone will be saying there is no money in SEO :winkwink:

Nysus 08-31-2005 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RogerV
Be carefull or everyone will be saying there is no money in SEO :winkwink:

There truly isn't for most people; just following the white logic Neo.

Matt

Matt Collins 08-31-2005 10:01 AM

The question seems to come down to should you outsource it to a college student or to an outsourcing company. Either way, you are outsourcing the work, so no matter the option, you will have certain risks.

I personally think the outsourcing company works best because of more natural barriers to entering as competition (though none are a major obstacle) such as language, connectivity, skills, etc.

Of course, the cost savings may make it easier to have multiple people doing different tasks. I personally trust Rick and iWebmasters. However, there is no way to eliminate risk in any business endeavor (there's your free legal advice!)

Just my :2 cents:

Matt

Nysus 08-31-2005 11:01 AM

IWebmasters is still based somewhere, in the Philipines specifically, and they have managers, and even the emloyees have access to the lists / copies of them. I had a bad number of ordeals with outsourcing, and now I just don't trust it because of how much I thought I knew the person in question and trusted them; maybe I'm just unlucky though.

I am doing everything critical to myself, and I actually hope anyone who knows what they're doing do the same; so there's less actual competition, and if there's a top 5 SEOs that join up ... can do a lot with that much. :) <- WiredGuy - Do you understand what I mean?

Matt

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Collins
The question seems to come down to should you outsource it to a college student or to an outsourcing company. Either way, you are outsourcing the work, so no matter the option, you will have certain risks.

I personally think the outsourcing company works best because of more natural barriers to entering as competition (though none are a major obstacle) such as language, connectivity, skills, etc.

Of course, the cost savings may make it easier to have multiple people doing different tasks. I personally trust Rick and iWebmasters. However, there is no way to eliminate risk in any business endeavor (there's your free legal advice!)

Just my :2 cents:

Matt


Nysus 08-31-2005 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cutetwink
Outsourcing is good for basic design, submitting, and other bullshit. For something like this you would have to double check their work losing you more time and money. You remember what happen with topbucks and their outsourced gallery descriptions.

It's not even about double-checking the work, they could do a good job, because they want the best list possible for themselves as well ... they want to profit / benefit from the information you provide them.. not all, but honestly no way to know who.

Matt


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