The 2.8 is the key.

I just want to get a bigger zoom at some point.

What did that run you?

Very Nice pics!!!

2.8 isn't the key, but it helps, the lens quality is just 10x better quality than the normal tele-zoom.

You can always go bigger by getting extension tubes, or teleconverters, saves you money, and you don't lose that much quality from it.

Unless your shooting NFL games, I don't see the need for anything over 300mm. I stopped using my 70-300, 200mm is enough for me right now.

As far as price, i shoot nikon, so I got the 70-200 VR 2.8 AF-S ED. Ran about 1600 US market, not gray market (about 200 cheaper but warranty is in japan).

Every lense has its place. 2.8 is essential for a lot of things. 400 range is great for a lot of purposes, including surfing shots depending on the break layout. Bigger zooms are great for perception shots that require it, etc. Just my opinion though.

400 isn't gonna get that much more depth over a 200, just closer. I'd rather buy a 2x teleconverter for 300 bucks, rather than a 400mm lens for like, god, probably well over 2k.

Haha..
I see your point though, time to buy one of those waterproof camera boxes and get closer ;)

Oh man..I wish you would not have said that :) I want to water proof is so damn bad. I am a surfer, so I would be very comfortable shooting out in the breaks.

Man, those damn things are expensive though!

I used to see them on ebay for around the same price as a body...

this company makes one for 1200, but i'm not a fish, not even close, never surfed, shit, i've rarely even seen surfing in person before (only a couple times) so something like this is simply useless to me...

http://www.backscatter.com/HostedSto... sings&sop=AND

Wow I never knew you could take pics like that

Those are amazing fucken pictures!

That price isn't bad considering what you "should" be able to do with it.

I just wonder how it works?

Fitty pics :thumbsup

Nice Pics Cory! I can't wait to see your new setup:)

Wowww those are great pics!

Canon makes the best cameras out there.. thanks for sharing mate!

:smokin

I love the FPS. The 20D is just powerful.

Wow killer pics :upsidedow