I am confused.

Your ebay page reads:
But you posted:
You don't have the right to basically resell their content. Your ebay page gives the impression that you own the content. It is misleading to "all rights to videos, images". You don't own the rights to those images.


Your ebay page reads:
If someone buys the site for $1.00 then it costs $1.00 to own and operate.

hey facial host - contact me on icq or aim

FacialHost,

Please rewrite your message and stop contradicting yourself.

P.

seriously FH, you're sellin' your Snake Oil to the wrong crowd. I would rewrite that ad on Ebay though, because you don't have the rights or license to sell that content. They're right... the only thing you can legally sell from that thing is the traffic.

It's okay to hate the bringers of the truth.... let it all out man... I'll get Dr. Phil and we'll all have muffins and hug.

That is a very deceptive ad up on ebay.

Yes, I want to drop $5k+ on a AVS site, then soon kiss my content and hosting goodbye because the seller had no right to sell what isn't his to sell, then I have to scramble and kiss more money goodbye to replace the content and get new hosting. Yes!! My dream deal has finally arrived!! Oh BABY.

Amp, you're doing a fine job as usual.
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Was reading an article last night from AVN that says the adult industry is not in the growth faze anymore, that we are in the maturity faze now.

Being in the maturity faze alot of sites will be slowely disapearing cause they can no longer make money.

Facial Host is prime example of the adult industry in the maturity faze.

if he doesnt sell his site he will let it die and in 3 months it'll be worth zero,

thats the tough part about this biz, you let up your revenue drops fast. Always gotta be on top of things

good post dave, why did I have to read all the way to the bottom to find something worth reading in here?

wow... it's too bad you found the dialog so lacking. I don't mince words or make shit politically correct. I tell it like it is. I'm not competing in a popularity contest. I do tend to write things that often times require some reading between the lines, but if I've offended someone's delicate sensibilities... I'm not sorry. Too damn bad.

If something is legit, there's no need for someone to get defensive. If it's bs... it usually takes me approximately 3 seconds to see it. But I'm working on cutting that time in half.

So...you're trying to sell a free site for $18,ooo? Is this correct? Are you a loon?

"Trying" being the operative word here. Maybe he should try an easier crowd next time...you know, someplace where no one reads the fine print. :1orglaugh

Ampute,

I am new to this board, but it didn't take me too long to start hating your dumb ass.

Considered you are so damn smart, and you know everything about everything, have you ever accomplished success in your life? Like, I mean, do you actually run any profitable online business or do you just waste your life posting your dumb opinions on GFY?

:2 cents:

3 secs is a long time:P where do u have the time to run anything if your always posting in here amp? just curious

www.studioadult.com :321GFY

Join the club.

but answer me this... WHY do you hate? Is it the abrasive personality, the charming good looks, or the fact that I have no problem exposing bs scams like this?

Oh, a design firm :)

hehehe :) No wonder you have so much time on your hands

this idiot is fucking serious?! if this site is worth 50k, am a fucking millionare :321GFY

actually I don't.... but stuff like this gives me major wood, so I make time.

While Amp may indeed have too much time on his hands (DAMN man, 36 posts a day!), he is absolutely right here, as he usually is. You, gotys, deserved what you got, and FH is deserving what he gets here.

Anyone who (verbally or otherwise) kicks the shit out of people trying to scam their fellow adult webmasters gets and deserves my respect.

Cheers,
Backov

my bad thats 5k not too bad but still :321GFY

Seemed to me Amp was right on the money both times...

It's all good gotys.... nobody needs to be a genius to see through stuff like this... and your little digs on me have zero impact, so save your breath.... I've heard them all before a thousand times. Like I said, if something is legit, there's no need to get defensive and try to justify it. It'll hold it's own water... only scam artists try to pull shit over peoples eyes. Shame on you guys for trying to fuck over fellow webmasters for a quick buck. Why are YOU so bent and defensive gotys?

My profitability isn't in question here. Hardly the topic I should think. But don't play with me kid. I could buy and sell you over lunch. Guaranteed.

for all you people coming here saying his site is worth no where near 5k. I site is worth what someone will pay for it. stock market works this way also.

WRONG!!!!

This is utter nonsensical crap. Do you honestly believe this? Things really do have value attached to them ya know. Or do we just throw the entire pricing structure right out the window and put everything out there up for bid? Want a new television? It's worth $30K cuz somewhere, someone will be willing to pay it. The "it's worth what someone is willing to pay for it" mentality doesn't really have much place in the practical world. If it did, then my ol' leakin' waterjug is worth $15K. Never mind it's a piece of shit plastic that won't even hold water properly.

That site is worth the traffic it currently has and that's about all. There's no server included in the sale, cuz it's on a freehost. There's no content included in the sale, cuz it's system content. There's no guarantee of anything, because if (notice I say IF... I'm not assuming anything here) his traffic is based on personal affiliations, they'll die off soon after the sale and traffic will plummet. So, boiled down, you got a crappy front to an avs site that anyone could whip up in ten minutes, built with content that isn't his to sell along with it. And you're gonna say with a straight face that it's worth more than $10 dollars?

You'll be back in the unemployment line soon enough and the headaches will go away... I promise.

mika the market is always this way. if stocks were valued on 6 months of income or profits, nothing would be worth anything.

amputate. Diamonds are a great example of this. The Diamond market was created by debeers. they had huge mines of this stuff. they started the revalution of women wearing them in the 60's I believe.

Diamonds are a BAD example of this. DeBeers has that shit cornered. They can pretty much charge whatever the hell they want cuz... where else you gonna get 'em from? I hardly think one lousy avs front compares in any way. Everyone's little sister can make those.

And may I add, if you wanted to compare to stock market, there had to be several sites like that in sale (=stocks)
And multiple buy/sell offers are being made .

You couldnt trick/cheat anyone to buy an overpriced stock. Thats where stock market is handy - commodity gets it real value (in theory) and no asshole can try to sell it to you for any higher price than what it is priced in the market.

Exactly!,

This is an AVS site, the content is provided by adultbouncer and hosted by adult bouncer. Your buying the front end to an AVS site..

Any of the more intelligent people could build this site in 1 day and be making the same money in 2-4 weeks. And if you want I'll sell you the manual on ebay for $5,000, no reserve.

Can we get a private section for the more intelligent people around here?

Ampute,

what you can buy over lunch is none of my interest. The point here is that anytime someone tryes to sell something you have to go and dig into it and find dirt that doesn't exist.

I was trying to sell my site completely legit with no hidden games, yet you had to dig in it and came up with BS dirt to make sure someone doesn't make money since you don't.

People like you make me sick and are the parasites of this world that keep good shit from happening.

Anyone who is with you is against me. And there is lots of you here, jalous little kids that didn't have time to grow up because were too busy stepping on other's toes.

When you actually achieve any kind of success that can even compare to mine, you can start talking shit about me or other's who try to do legit business. Untill then you should keep your stupid mouth shut and design your little graphics or what have you.

With that said, I will no longer reply to your posts as they make me puke over the fact that kids like you have internet access.

Fuck you hardcore and good luck with your doodeling bussiness.

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Anyone here arguing with amp is wasting there time for one he is CORRECT and for two anyone can say anything they want.
As well anyone can sell anything they want for what ever amount they wish... If they are assholes and trick some fool into spending a shit load of money for a shity design I could make in 10 mins who cares thats the retard to buys it problem.

Heh. no right to sell content. :BangBang:
But I guess we wont rip the new owner and let him use the same content...

Hosting paid forever? you smoke crack. :stoned
You gotta tell the thruth in those auctions... :angel

:helpme

That's funny, it seemed to be your interest just a few posts ago.
I didn't have to dig at all. It's bullshit and it's brutally obvious.

again, I didn't have to dig. No hidden games? d00d... your thread was nothing BUT games, beating around the bush, and excuses.
get over yourself Rambo. You don't know the first thing about me so shut your fuckin' idiot hole before someone stuffs a cock in there.

I'm a parasite? What exactly is it that I'm feeding on?
Yeah.... good for you... fucked for the poor fucker that actually shells out the hard earned money for it and gets fucked 2 weeks later when the traffic bombs.

Look... I know the truth hurts. Deal with it man. I truly couldn't give a flying fuck about you bro.... in fact, as you can see, I even lost interest in responding to all your crybaby ranting. I just hate to see some uninformed buyer make a hasty purchase without knowing what they're getting. Unlike you, I actually DO have respect for the people in my industry, and hate to see people get ripped on some flaky fuckin' overpriced *deal* on some failing site or unlicensed content and empty promises of *free hosting for life!*

Nobody here is stupid man... some of us are just more outspoken than others. But you are the one getting all twisted... not me. Everything I've said has been in a business context. YOU are the one dishing out personal attacks here. So take your fucking sniveling snotnosed crybaby sissy bullshit and stick it in your fuckin' ass rockstar. If you can't back up the things you claim, then maybe you shouldn't claim them.

Great. I just dug up $1.14 in pocket change. That's what I'm willing to pay for it. Thar's his first legit bid, and I think he's getting the better end of the deal (if he takes it)

Damn some people can argue in circles endlessly. Comments about Amp's own business or how much time he spends online are weak attempts to deflect the argument off the focus. Nice try. The questions still remain unanswered, and I for one would like to hear some non-bullshite answers to them.

1) If site is so profitable and low-maintenance, why sell?

2) How can you include content in the sale that you don't own the rights to yourself?

3) How can you morally include "free bandwidth" as a selling point when it isn't yours to sell or profit from?

4) if this deal is so legit and gold-plated, why get so defensive when called to the carpet about a few things regarding it?

So far all I'm hearing is wind and tumbleweeds when these questions have been put to you. Talk is cheap.
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Thank god the whole industry doesn't do business like you. Tricking a surfer into a link or something is one thing... but when you start fucking over the people you work with... you're on the path to quick and ugly self-destruction. Good luck.

That's the best post of the day.
Summarizes this thread with a couple of words

For your information Amp I did not say I was like that, all I was trying to say is give it up who cares what joe blow does to jim bob.
Me personaly I think that almost every webmaster is ripping somebody off that is what this buisnes is about right? I mean your selling something to serfers who dont know better, whethere or not they are webmasters is beside the point.

Pic Pile, so people have way to much time to post so much.

Its really time consuming trying to read all these posts.

I agree with you about the stock market way of looking at things.

If the demand is high the price he gets is higher

if their is no demand he wont sell it.

I bet its worth very little, like someone said, 90% of the people in GFY can make that site in about 24 hours.

I care.
I don't see it that way... sorry. And I don't see a need for me to elaborate on that.