Ambush Interview #56 Marc De - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

JFK · 08-26-2005, 01:16 PM

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Crypt · 08-26-2005, 01:20 PM

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MaDalton · 08-26-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

Hey guys - I just got 'hooked up' at my RV site for the night. I'm online from my MotoSat high speed Satellite net connection

I'm going to peck away at these throughout the weekend. I don't want to write one massive response. I'll get started now....

oh - then i have a question - with that high speed satelite connection - can you have internet wherever you are? on a boat for example? and how much is that?

strobi · 08-26-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

Hey guys - I just got 'hooked up' at my RV site for the night. I'm online from my MotoSat high speed Satellite net connection

I'm going to peck away at these throughout the weekend. I don't want to write one massive response. I'll get started now....

sweeeeettt!! looking forward to it!

JFK · 08-26-2005, 01:22 PM

YEAH.............. Marc is in Da House

spunkmaster · 08-26-2005, 01:25 PM

What happened to him ?

Marc De · 08-26-2005, 01:26 PM

1. Is it true ARS went under cause of chargeback ratio issues?

I don't recall ARS going under? At no point in time have we been out of business. Did we shut off all the sites in the ARS portfolio in early 2004 because of chargeback issues? Yes, that was the major cause of a number of issues that revolved around those sites. However, even with the loss of all the legacy GIM sites we still did good volume. We continue to do good volume and have grown significantly since that time

What we did was necessary for us to stay solvent and continue to be a healthy company. Its because of that move that ARS is still around and growing. It was also a decision that was necessary to secure our biggest asset, our multi million dollar recurring DB. As many people have thought "Man that was a really bad decision" if all the information was available their opinion would be drastically changed. I stand behind that decision 100% and know its allowed us to do what we've done the last 6 months

2. Why did Toolz leave and then come back? Why did Becky leave?

Toolz left to do his own thing. After realizing that being without me was no fun, he came back

I also was in great need of his services on another project that fit him well. Becky never really left the company. She started a company called Storm Media which owns and operates all the sites in the ARS portfolio. Storm replaced our existing portfolio manager. Becky is no longer with Innovative Ideas (ARS) but she still works closely with us and her move was the best for all parties.

3. How many cars do you own? pics. Talk about the garage you had built for them.

I own 17 cars in total. 15 in Michigan & 2 in Las Vegas. You can find pics @ http://www.marcscars.com I built a 9000 sq ft garage to house them and be used as a base of operations for my groundsmen & car detailers.

4. At the peak how many sales was ARS pulling a day?

In its peak which lasted about 40 months ARS averaged 3500 sales / day and 70,000,000 uniques / mo We never dropped below 15,000,000 uniques / mo and now do significantly more

5. What happened to your reality sites?

What do you mean what happened to them? They're still in the ARS portfolio

Marc De · 08-26-2005, 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

oh - then i have a question - with that high speed satelite connection - can you have internet wherever you are? on a boat for example? and how much is that?

Hey MaDalton - this system is amazing. When you park you hit the button and within 5 minutes it automatically tracks the satellite and you have a 1 mbps connection. You can use it anything that has an open view to the Southern sky and is relatively non mobile

The system was $6000 installed and $99 / mo

Xenophage · 08-26-2005, 01:28 PM

Looking forward to this one for sure

Realpascal · 08-26-2005, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

1. Is it true ARS went under cause of chargeback ratio issues?

I don't recall ARS going under? At no point in time have we been out of business. Did we shut off all the sites in the ARS portfolio in early 2004 because of chargeback issues? Yes, that was the major cause of a number of issues that revolved around those sites. However, even with the loss of all the legacy GIM sites we still did good volume. We continue to do good volume and have grown significantly since that time

What we did was necessary for us to stay solvent and continue to be a healthy company. Its because of that move that ARS is still around and growing. It was also a decision that was necessary to secure our biggest asset, our multi million dollar recurring DB. As many people have thought "Man that was a really bad decision" if all the information was available their opinion would be drastically changed. I stand behind that decision 100% and know its allowed us to do what we've done the last 6 months

2. Why did Toolz leave and then come back? Why did Becky leave?

Toolz left to do his own thing. After realizing that being without me was no fun, he came back

I also was in great need of his services on another project that fit him well. Becky never really left the company. She started a company called Storm Media which owns and operates all the sites in the ARS portfolio. Storm replaced our existing portfolio manager. Becky is no longer with Innovative Ideas (ARS) but she still works closely with us and her move was the best for all parties.

3. How many cars do you own? pics. Talk about the garage you had built for them.

I own 17 cars in total. 15 in Michigan & 2 in Las Vegas. You can find pics @ http://www.marcscars.com I built a 9000 sq ft garage to house them and be used as a base of operations for my groundsmen & car detailers.

4. At the peak how many sales was ARS pulling a day?

In its peak which lasted about 40 months ARS averaged 3500 sales / day and 70,000,000 uniques / mo We never dropped below 15,000,000 uniques / mo and now do significantly more

5. What happened to your reality sites?

What do you mean what happened to them? They're still in the ARS portfolio

2 Words: HOLY CRAP !

Bangwang · 08-26-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegendaryLars

Looking forward to this one for sure

Me too

MaDalton · 08-26-2005, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

Hey MaDalton - this system is amazing. When you park you hit the button and within 5 minutes it automatically tracks the satellite and you have a 1 mbps connection. You can use it anything that has an open view to the Southern sky and is relatively non mobile

The system was $6000 installed and $99 / mo

that's quite reasonable - at least the monthly fee - i feel my dream coming closer

Peaches · 08-26-2005, 01:38 PM

I know most of the answers to the questions, but I still look forward to this. Marc's a good guy!

Marc, we need pics of the RV!

Paul · 08-26-2005, 01:52 PM

Marc what age did you start in the adult industry ? Also if you were just starting as a newbie in the adult industry today what area would you concentrate your efforts in ?

Sosa · 08-26-2005, 01:58 PM

damn 3500 signups a day. WOW

mrthumbs · 08-26-2005, 02:01 PM

3500 a day..wow.. i though i was doing good back in the days..!!

HpicAnn · 08-26-2005, 02:02 PM

This is gonna be an excellent interview!!

Marc De · 08-26-2005, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coatsy

Marc what age did you start in the adult industry ? Also if you were just starting as a newbie in the adult industry today what area would you concentrate your efforts in ?

I was 19 when I started.

If I was a newbie now I would probably concentrate in promoting video / scene based sites using their content to create some higher end gallery / sales pages

Whether that just be galleries and/or BYOT system like ARS has...

Triple 6 · 08-26-2005, 02:02 PM

goooodies

detoxed · 08-26-2005, 02:03 PM

Everyone that can send 10+ sales a day should signup to AAC through my sig and get my expertise help in promoting them

brand0n · 08-26-2005, 02:05 PM

marc smokes only the best chronic

im talking purple shit with blue hairs + cristals the size of salt

justsexxx · 08-26-2005, 02:07 PM

3500 a day jeez!

Drake · 08-26-2005, 02:09 PM

Wooohooo!

Vitasoy · 08-26-2005, 02:10 PM

I'm all eyes on this one

Sosa · 08-26-2005, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitasoy

I'm all eyes on this one

be all brains and you can prolly learn something in this thread

Nismo · 08-26-2005, 02:17 PM

did anyone else start crying when they read 3500 sales a day?

galleryseek · 08-26-2005, 02:19 PM

this story sounds a lot like my own...

except without all the success and money.

XPays · 08-26-2005, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

did anyone else start crying when they read 3500 sales a day?

it makes me curious what ars' best day ever so far has been??? congrats to marc de on all his success and much respect

Ice · 08-26-2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

4. At the peak how many sales was ARS pulling a day?

In its peak which lasted about 40 months ARS averaged 3500 sales / day and 70,000,000 uniques / mo We never dropped below 15,000,000 uniques / mo and now do significantly more

HOLY CRAP thats hardcore

bigdog · 08-26-2005, 02:37 PM

if i remember sexhit was pulling about 5k a day, but they are not around anymore

Odie · 08-26-2005, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nismo

did anyone else start crying when they read 3500 sales a day?

yup I also almost shit myself.

BradShaw · 08-26-2005, 02:44 PM

Marc is the brightest guy in the biz. Well, other than toolz.

08-26-2005, 02:46 PM

very cool interview. I'd also like to know what the all-time high signup day was that ARS experienced, and around what time it was. Thanks!

BradShaw · 08-26-2005, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

Hey guys - I just got 'hooked up' at my RV site for the night. I'm online from my MotoSat high speed Satellite net connection

I'm going to peck away at these throughout the weekend. I don't want to write one massive response. I'll get started now....

We can trade motosat tips;-) I had mine installed a couple months ago, think is great.

MaDalton · 08-26-2005, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

We can trade motosat tips;-) I had mine installed a couple months ago, think is great.

does it work on a boat - at least at the marina???

Marc De · 08-26-2005, 02:51 PM

6. Is it true you're addicted to video games?

Yes, I'm so addicted to video games that I had to create a company that makes them (S2 Games) and a company that distributes them (iGames). I've spent 10+ hours / week playling games since I was 4 years old. Currently I'm addicted to Warcraft III. I also purchased happypuppy.com from the public company that paid $48 million for the asset. Happy Puppy is currently the 4th largest video game website getting over 30,000,000 hits / mo S2 Games created Savage, which won multiple awards, including Independent Game of 2004

We're currently working on Savage 2

http://www.s2games.com
http://www.happypuppy.com
http://www.igames.com

7. Given the chance to do it all over again would you still split your company into 2 parts again, content and marketing?

Yes I would do it again. Back in 2000 I broke out our actual adult operations and sold them to Global Intermedia. ARS (the affiliate management side / marketing side) of the business was sold to Innovative Ideas which I own.

8. How many affiliates did ARS have total?

You keep using past tense as if ARS no longer exists. We're still large, alive, and kicking. Anyways, ARS has over 100,000 accounts... which doesn't mean SHIT! hehe Its all about active webmasters. In our peak we had over 2500 active WMs in over 4000 active accounts.

9. There's a rumor ifriends is running billing for you? discuss

Webpower is the back end provider for our cam program HSN (@ Home Sex Network). We are NOT click cash and there are definitely distinctive differences between their products and ours.

Our tours have some unique selling points.

10. How many pairs of shoes do you own?

I own approx 25 pairs of shoes

Yes, btw, I also enjoyed your mockery of my cars thread! ;)

BradShaw · 08-26-2005, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDalton

oh - then i have a question - with that high speed satelite connection - can you have internet wherever you are? on a boat for example? and how much is that?

I have the same dish on my rig. Althogh Marc has a rock star rig, and I have a poor mans rig;-)

You can find out about it here:
http://datastormusers.com/

It is not a perfect solution, but it works 98% of the time.

They make marine solutions, but no need to spend that much if you only need a stationary solution. It simply automates adjusting the dish of normal satellite internet, direct PC.

It will work anywhere in most of North America, as long as you have a clear view of the south sky. Downside is that you can not park in the shade.

Paparazzi · 08-26-2005, 02:55 PM

good interview so far

Paul · 08-26-2005, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

I was 19 when I started.

If I was a newbie now I would probably concentrate in promoting video / scene based sites using their content to create some higher end gallery / sales pages

Whether that just be galleries and/or BYOT system like ARS has...

Thanks for the reply ! Excellent interview so far

Toolz · 08-26-2005, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

Marc is the brightest guy in the biz. Well, other than toolz.

LOL I'm only smart because I sponsor the right things, HUGE football pool starting in 2 weeks you all know where, and party at the October show, everyone check it out

MaDalton · 08-26-2005, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

I have the same dish on my rig. Althogh Marc has a rock star rig, and I have a poor mans rig;-)

You can find out about it here:
http://datastormusers.com/

It is not a perfect solution, but it works 98% of the time.

They make marine solutions, but no need to spend that much if you only need a stationary solution. It simply automates adjusting the dish of normal satellite internet, direct PC.

It will work anywhere in most of North America, as long as you have a clear view of the south sky. Downside is that you can not park in the shade.

very interesting stuff... thanks

Hollywood Horwitz · 08-26-2005, 03:37 PM

once again, can we get a pic of Marc De to make this thread more visual..

Violetta · 08-26-2005, 03:45 PM

3500 sales a day is insane!!!!

PMdave · 08-26-2005, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc De

9. There's a rumor ifriends is running billing for you? discuss

Webpower is the back end provider for our cam program HSN (@ Home Sex Network). We are NOT click cash and there are definitely distinctive differences between their products and ours.

Our tours have some unique selling points.

And the selling points work:

tranza · 08-26-2005, 04:20 PM

So far so good...

Doctor Dre · 08-26-2005, 04:23 PM

wwaaaaaa about the fucking time

Sosa · 08-26-2005, 04:24 PM

marc will you be my long lost dad?

Marc De · 08-26-2005, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradShaw

I have the same dish on my rig. Althogh Marc has a rock star rig, and I have a poor mans rig;-)

You can find out about it here:
http://datastormusers.com/

It is not a perfect solution, but it works 98% of the time.

They make marine solutions, but no need to spend that much if you only need a stationary solution. It simply automates adjusting the dish of normal satellite internet, direct PC.

It will work anywhere in most of North America, as long as you have a clear view of the south sky. Downside is that you can not park in the shade.

You crack me up with that shit Brad... I'm going to upgrade to a Newell Coach in a couple years, you interested in mine when I do? I'll give you a helluva deal

BTW, you say this Sat works 98% of the time and I would say more like 85% but it is still managable.

eGawd · 08-26-2005, 04:28 PM

This interview needs some pictures!

CybermedAndy · 08-26-2005, 04:29 PM

Nice job answering multiple questions per post, makes for a way easier read

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Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	1. Is it true ARS went under cause of chargeback ratio issues? I don't recall ARS going under? At no point in time have we been out of business. Did we shut off all the sites in the ARS portfolio in early 2004 because of chargeback issues? Yes, that was the major cause of a number of issues that revolved around those sites. However, even with the loss of all the legacy GIM sites we still did good volume. We continue to do good volume and have grown significantly since that time What we did was necessary for us to stay solvent and continue to be a healthy company. Its because of that move that ARS is still around and growing. It was also a decision that was necessary to secure our biggest asset, our multi million dollar recurring DB. As many people have thought "Man that was a really bad decision" if all the information was available their opinion would be drastically changed. I stand behind that decision 100% and know its allowed us to do what we've done the last 6 months 2. Why did Toolz leave and then come back? Why did Becky leave? Toolz left to do his own thing. After realizing that being without me was no fun, he came back I also was in great need of his services on another project that fit him well. Becky never really left the company. She started a company called Storm Media which owns and operates all the sites in the ARS portfolio. Storm replaced our existing portfolio manager. Becky is no longer with Innovative Ideas (ARS) but she still works closely with us and her move was the best for all parties. 3. How many cars do you own? pics. Talk about the garage you had built for them. I own 17 cars in total. 15 in Michigan & 2 in Las Vegas. You can find pics @ http://www.marcscars.com I built a 9000 sq ft garage to house them and be used as a base of operations for my groundsmen & car detailers. 4. At the peak how many sales was ARS pulling a day? In its peak which lasted about 40 months ARS averaged 3500 sales / day and 70,000,000 uniques / mo We never dropped below 15,000,000 uniques / mo and now do significantly more 5. What happened to your reality sites? What do you mean what happened to them? They're still in the ARS portfolio __________________ 650+ Tours in Every Niche • Automated Dynamic Free Hosted Gallery System online now - The BEST FHG System!

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08-26-2005, 02:51 PM	#86
Marc De Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 632	6. Is it true you're addicted to video games? Yes, I'm so addicted to video games that I had to create a company that makes them (S2 Games) and a company that distributes them (iGames). I've spent 10+ hours / week playling games since I was 4 years old. Currently I'm addicted to Warcraft III. I also purchased happypuppy.com from the public company that paid $48 million for the asset. Happy Puppy is currently the 4th largest video game website getting over 30,000,000 hits / mo S2 Games created Savage, which won multiple awards, including Independent Game of 2004 We're currently working on Savage 2 http://www.s2games.com http://www.happypuppy.com http://www.igames.com 7. Given the chance to do it all over again would you still split your company into 2 parts again, content and marketing? Yes I would do it again. Back in 2000 I broke out our actual adult operations and sold them to Global Intermedia. ARS (the affiliate management side / marketing side) of the business was sold to Innovative Ideas which I own. 8. How many affiliates did ARS have total? You keep using past tense as if ARS no longer exists. We're still large, alive, and kicking. Anyways, ARS has over 100,000 accounts... which doesn't mean SHIT! hehe Its all about active webmasters. In our peak we had over 2500 active WMs in over 4000 active accounts. 9. There's a rumor ifriends is running billing for you? discuss Webpower is the back end provider for our cam program HSN (@ Home Sex Network). We are NOT click cash and there are definitely distinctive differences between their products and ours. Our tours have some unique selling points. 10. How many pairs of shoes do you own? I own approx 25 pairs of shoes Yes, btw, I also enjoyed your mockery of my cars thread! ;) __________________ 650+ Tours in Every Niche • Automated Dynamic Free Hosted Gallery System online now - The BEST FHG System!

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