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  • woj
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    • Jul 2002
    • 47882

    #51
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    • $5 submissions
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      • Nov 2003
      • 32195

      #52
      Originally posted by bhutocracy
      program owners with quality sites..
      I think this is the key phrase. Since not everyone runs quality user-centric/niche-centric sites there would be a lot of fallout.

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      • Rui
        web
        • Dec 2001
        • 9533

        #53
        LOL funny stuff...you are actualy rigth on the money tho

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        • PrintAdult
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          • Aug 2005
          • 845

          #54
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          • Linkster
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2003
            • 3216

            #55
            Originally posted by TheDoc
            It wouldn't be that hard to catch programs shaving. It would take 10 to 20 webmasters to work together.. Send some real traffic but not a lot, just enough to have some clicks and maybe a few real joins.. Then, each day, at a set time, a webmaster pulls out a CC and purchases a membership. A mixture of trials, full months, and a few 3 months.. Spread it out over a few weeks so no alarms go off.
            When a sale doesn?t show, game is over..
            ..
            From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with
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            • eroswebmaster
              March 1st, 2003
              • Jul 2001
              • 20295

              #56
              Bump for the agents on day shift.
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              • titmowse
                Confirmed User
                • Jan 2001
                • 5320

                #57
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                • mardigras
                  Bon temps!
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 14194

                  #58
                  Originally posted by Linkster
                  From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with
                  LOL, I'm surprised that 20/20 hasn't had some of their reporters become temporary "undercover" webmasters... they love reporting on the adult industry
                  .

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                  • mikeyddddd
                    Viva la vulva!
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 16557

                    #59
                    Originally posted by devilspost
                    I dont want my dick sucked I want to put food on my family! lol
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                    • u-Bob
                      there's no $$$ in porn
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 33063

                      #60
                      this one deserves a BUMP

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                      • jimmyf
                        OU812
                        • Feb 2001
                        • 12651

                        #61
                        Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                        don't know if its serious or not but i wouldn't shed a tear if programs that really shaved were gone. it would force some honesty in this business.
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                        • Ace of Spades
                          Confirmed User
                          • Jul 2003
                          • 472

                          #62
                          I would much rather they figure a way to rid of some of the idiots in this biz, like the many posting in this thread.

                          It's not hard for someone to figure out who shaves and who doesn't, if they have any understanding of their traffic and what it's worth!
                          Last edited by Ace of Spades; 08-26-2005, 06:46 AM.
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                          • XxXotic
                            Confirmed User
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 8500

                            #63
                            Originally posted by tony404
                            first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
                            free hosted galleries
                            outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
                            higher percentage of the join for life of join
                            big prizes ,trips
                            Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
                            The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.
                            so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic
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                            • Breakyourself
                              Registered User
                              • May 2005
                              • 41

                              #64
                              you're a twat!!!

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                              • Sarah_Jayne
                                Now with more Jayne
                                • Dec 2002
                                • 40077

                                #65
                                According to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.

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                                • tony299
                                  lurker
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 57021

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by XxXotic
                                  so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic
                                  Im not saying it justifies theft Im saying, to give the affiliate all they want and still stay in business .I can see how the practice can happen. I dont have a affiliate program and if I did no no one would join because I couldnt afford to give away the house. Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join, only my friends who like me or take pity on me would lol.
                                  My experience with affiliates was in main stream I ran a program for a publicly traded .com and I had P@L responsiblity .

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                                  • 3piece chicken Dinner
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Jan 2005
                                    • 1065

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by tony404
                                    Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join.


                                    actually you could pay what you charge, and you should set up for retention. So you'll end up with a real number of 25.00 per sale to be comfortable. Until you have solid retention numbers and then you could decide how much and if to increase payouts. But you sure can't start at 40. per sale and decrease it.


                                    I understand your point tony. authough it's really and honestly not as cut and dry as you have put it, you're on the correct path with your thinking.

                                    It's a very rare case when you will see a NEW pps come out of the blocks at 40.00 per sale and live to tell you about it later.
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                                    • eroswebmaster
                                      March 1st, 2003
                                      • Jul 2001
                                      • 20295

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by sarah_webinc
                                      According to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.
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                                      • Doctor Dre
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Jan 2001
                                        • 51692

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                        first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
                                        free hosted galleries
                                        outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
                                        higher percentage of the join for life of join
                                        big prizes ,trips
                                        Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
                                        The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.
                                        The sponsors decided to give that to affiliates ... they make competition between themselves ... their fucking problem if they offer something they can't deliver ...
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                                        • BDSMpersonals
                                          Registered User
                                          • Jun 2005
                                          • 42

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by 3piece chicken Dinner
                                          The only hole in your theory Eros is that shaving is only percieved to happen. It's a myth created by untalented webmasters to make themselves feel better about poor ratio's and lack of sales. I am sure that everyone has their books in order and can account for the money generated from every signup and it will reconcile perfectly with their join numbers.

                                          But if someone were shaving, this would be the way to shut that shit down.
                                          A few years ago I was shopping for affiliate tracking/reporting sw, and the seller, who I will not name, did whisper in my ear that his system had built-in shaving, if I wanted it. Just dial it in, it's a config variable.

                                          I did not use that system.

                                          Yet, I have doubts that programs can be nabbed this way because shaving also happens all the time, for legitimate reasons. The more the feds delve into this the more they'll see that it's not worth pursuing.

                                          The affiliate tracking script sellers, otoh, might be easily doable if they still offer shaving as a feature. Pretty hard to explain away why they have you on tape describing how their shaving feature works.
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                                          • Ray Nagin
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                                            • Sep 2005
                                            • 820

                                            #71
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                                            • fris
                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 55679

                                              #72
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                                              • Hooligan
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • May 2001
                                                • 1472

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by A1R3K
                                                not the smartest post i've seen someone make.
                                                What are you afraid of? Does your program shave?

                                                Good post if you ask me.

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                                                • Hooligan
                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                  • May 2001
                                                  • 1472

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by XxXotic
                                                  so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic
                                                  Tony404 doesnt have a program. In fact, he isn't even a webmaster, All hes got is a post count.

                                                  Shaving is theft and programs who do it are lowlife scumbags.

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                                                  • devilspost
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 3980

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Hooligan
                                                    What are you afraid of? Does your program shave?

                                                    Good post if you ask me.
                                                    He is talking about the DOJ FBI IRS angle. dumbass

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                                                    • Manowar
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                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 71528

                                                      #76
                                                      Man i remember this thread

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                                                      • Barefootsies
                                                        Choice is an Illusion
                                                        • Feb 2005
                                                        • 42635

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by tony404
                                                        first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
                                                        free hosted galleries
                                                        outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
                                                        higher percentage of the join for life of join
                                                        big prizes ,trips
                                                        Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.

                                                        The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.
                                                        True dat.

                                                        While I do not agree or condone shaving. It's the cost of doing business. They have to balance their books somehow.

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