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I think this is the key phrase. Since not everyone runs quality user-centric/niche-centric sites there would be a lot of fallout.Originally posted by bhutocracyprogram owners with quality sites..
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Nice Thread! Umm by the way , Hello to the men in black!
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From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up withOriginally posted by TheDocIt wouldn't be that hard to catch programs shaving. It would take 10 to 20 webmasters to work together.. Send some real traffic but not a lot, just enough to have some clicks and maybe a few real joins.. Then, each day, at a set time, a webmaster pulls out a CC and purchases a membership. A mixture of trials, full months, and a few 3 months.. Spread it out over a few weeks so no alarms go off.
When a sale doesn?t show, game is over..
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LOL, I'm surprised that 20/20 hasn't had some of their reporters become temporary "undercover" webmasters... they love reporting on the adult industryOriginally posted by LinksterFrom what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with
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cuncur...Originally posted by BlackCrayondon't know if its serious or not but i wouldn't shed a tear if programs that really shaved were gone. it would force some honesty in this business.Epic CashEpic Cash works for me
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I would much rather they figure a way to rid of some of the idiots in this biz, like the many posting in this thread.
It's not hard for someone to figure out who shaves and who doesn't, if they have any understanding of their traffic and what it's worth!Last edited by Ace of Spades; 08-26-2005, 06:46 AM.Do people really click sigs?Comment
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so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any trafficOriginally posted by tony404first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
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Im not saying it justifies theft Im saying, to give the affiliate all they want and still stay in business .I can see how the practice can happen. I dont have a affiliate program and if I did no no one would join because I couldnt afford to give away the house. Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join, only my friends who like me or take pity on me would lol.Originally posted by XxXoticso that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic
My experience with affiliates was in main stream I ran a program for a publicly traded .com and I had P@L responsiblity .Comment
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Originally posted by tony404Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join.
actually you could pay what you charge, and you should set up for retention. So you'll end up with a real number of 25.00 per sale to be comfortable. Until you have solid retention numbers and then you could decide how much and if to increase payouts. But you sure can't start at 40. per sale and decrease it.
I understand your point tony. authough it's really and honestly not as cut and dry as you have put it, you're on the correct path with your thinking.
It's a very rare case when you will see a NEW pps come out of the blocks at 40.00 per sale and live to tell you about it later."We are told to let our light shine, and if it does, we won't need to tell anybody it does. Lighthouses don't fire cannons to call attention to their shining- they just shine."Comment
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Originally posted by sarah_webincAccording to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.
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The sponsors decided to give that to affiliates ... they make competition between themselves ... their fucking problem if they offer something they can't deliver ...Originally posted by tony404first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment
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A few years ago I was shopping for affiliate tracking/reporting sw, and the seller, who I will not name, did whisper in my ear that his system had built-in shaving, if I wanted it. Just dial it in, it's a config variable.Originally posted by 3piece chicken DinnerThe only hole in your theory Eros is that shaving is only percieved to happen.
It's a myth created by untalented webmasters to make themselves feel better about poor ratio's and lack of sales.
I am sure that everyone has their books in order and can account for the money generated from every signup and it will reconcile perfectly with their join numbers.
But if someone were shaving, this would be the way to shut that shit down.
I did not use that system.
Yet, I have doubts that programs can be nabbed this way because shaving also happens all the time, for legitimate reasons. The more the feds delve into this the more they'll see that it's not worth pursuing.
The affiliate tracking script sellers, otoh, might be easily doable if they still offer shaving as a feature. Pretty hard to explain away why they have you on tape describing how their shaving feature works.Comment
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Tony404 doesnt have a program. In fact, he isn't even a webmaster, All hes got is a post count.Originally posted by XxXoticso that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic
Shaving is theft and programs who do it are lowlife scumbags.Comment
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True dat.Originally posted by tony404first why do you all give it such a nice name Shaving. Call it for what it is Stealing but on the other hand . Affiliates want:
free hosted galleries
outragious commissions $1 trial $40 comm
higher percentage of the join for life of join
big prizes ,trips
Plus their dick sucked at conventions, dinners, parties, hot models running around plus freebie gifts.
The numbers dont work folks when you add everything in.
While I do not agree or condone shaving. It's the cost of doing business. They have to balance their books somehow.
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