50...........

I think this is the key phrase. Since not everyone runs quality user-centric/niche-centric sites there would be a lot of fallout. :2 cents:

LOL funny stuff...you are actualy rigth on the money tho

Nice Thread! Umm by the way , Hello to the men in black!

From what Ive heard someone is already doing that currently - I havent heard the results yet - would love to see what they come up with

Bump for the agents on day shift.

I love the smell of G-Men in the morning. :)

LOL, I'm surprised that 20/20 hasn't had some of their reporters become temporary "undercover" webmasters... they love reporting on the adult industry :upsidedow

W loves you.

this one deserves a BUMP :) :) :) :) :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

cuncur...

I would much rather they figure a way to rid of some of the idiots in this biz, like the many posting in this thread.

It's not hard for someone to figure out who shaves and who doesn't, if they have any understanding of their traffic and what it's worth!

so that justifies theft? Remind me not to send you any traffic

you're a twat!!!

According to a thread last week you should now be dragged out of your car and beaten to death.

Im not saying it justifies theft Im saying, to give the affiliate all they want and still stay in business .I can see how the practice can happen. I dont have a affiliate program and if I did no no one would join because I couldnt afford to give away the house. Im going to say join my program I will give you 10 dollars a sale and you host your own galleries but I can guarantee I will not shave. No one would join, only my friends who like me or take pity on me would lol.
My experience with affiliates was in main stream I ran a program for a publicly traded .com and I had P@L responsiblity .

actually you could pay what you charge, and you should set up for retention. So you'll end up with a real number of 25.00 per sale to be comfortable. Until you have solid retention numbers and then you could decide how much and if to increase payouts. But you sure can't start at 40. per sale and decrease it.


I understand your point tony. authough it's really and honestly not as cut and dry as you have put it, you're on the correct path with your thinking.

It's a very rare case when you will see a NEW pps come out of the blocks at 40.00 per sale and live to tell you about it later.

:1orglaugh

The sponsors decided to give that to affiliates ... they make competition between themselves ... their fucking problem if they offer something they can't deliver ...

A few years ago I was shopping for affiliate tracking/reporting sw, and the seller, who I will not name, did whisper in my ear that his system had built-in shaving, if I wanted it. Just dial it in, it's a config variable.

I did not use that system.

Yet, I have doubts that programs can be nabbed this way because shaving also happens all the time, for legitimate reasons. The more the feds delve into this the more they'll see that it's not worth pursuing.

The affiliate tracking script sellers, otoh, might be easily doable if they still offer shaving as a feature. Pretty hard to explain away why they have you on tape describing how their shaving feature works.

this post sponsored by brad shaw, and exec stats.

What are you afraid of? Does your program shave?

Good post if you ask me.

Tony404 doesnt have a program. In fact, he isn't even a webmaster, All hes got is a post count.

Shaving is theft and programs who do it are lowlife scumbags.

He is talking about the DOJ FBI IRS angle. dumbass:1orglaugh

Man i remember this thread

True dat.

While I do not agree or condone shaving. It's the cost of doing business. They have to balance their books somehow.

:2 cents: