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Originally posted by sperbonzoYup....Just like Clinton attacked Kosovo.... They were no threat to us, didn't provoke us, had nothing to do with us....
And by the way, Lincoln actually provoked a war with the south because they were practicing their right to succeed from the union... read some consititutional history, they had the right to do that according to the original framers. The war was about the rights of states over the federal government, not slavery. Obviously I'm glad that things turned out the way that they did, but technically, the Confederacy was in the right. Linoln and the north were technically the aggressors, and they did NOT have the right to impose their will just because they wanted the cotten and agricultural products from the south.
Get a Grip? Please.... Can you imagine if Bush suspended Habius Corpus, with no need for evidence to put people in jail, and put other politicians in jail for simply disagreeing with him? What about if the police killed hundreds of people on Bush's orders so as to force people into the army to fight for a war that they didn't want?
I dont think Lincoln ever said that africa was a nation.
Nah but seriously youre talking about 1860 and not 2000. Kosovo was a totally different story from Iraq, to this day they are yet to prove that there was a point for us to be there in the first place.JOIN TRAFFIC GIGOLOS NOW!!!!!
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Um.. isn't that what's happening in Gitmo? People have been imprisoned there without even a visit from a lawyer.Originally posted by sperbonzoCan you imagine if Bush suspended Habius Corpus, with no need for evidence to put people in jail, and put other politicians in jail for simply disagreeing with him?Bush can no more fire Rove than Charlie McCarthy could fire Edgar Bergen.Comment
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That's true.... there was no point in going into Kosovo, according to your standards.Originally posted by GoogleBotI dont think Lincoln ever said that africa was a nation.
Nah but seriously youre talking about 1860 and not 2000. Kosovo was a totally different story from Iraq, to this day they are yet to prove that there was a point for us to be there in the first place.Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing
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Well.... the people in Gitmo were enemy combatants on the battlefield. Gitmo is a POW Camp. You don't see Bush putting Kennedy into jail for speaking against him do you? That is what Lincoln did.Originally posted by SleazeQueenUm.. isn't that what's happening in Gitmo? People have been imprisoned there without even a visit from a lawyer.Michael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing
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If the best you can do in defending the idiot president is to use Lincoln, well then your argument isn't very good. I find republicans kind of like spoiled children. Any time you say something against Bush, they automatically say well Clinton did this or Clinton did that. Just like kids, well he did it so why can't I.Originally posted by sperbonzoWell.... the people in Gitmo were enemy combatants on the battlefield. Gitmo is a POW Camp. You don't see Bush putting Kennedy into jail for speaking against him do you? That is what Lincoln did.
Get over it, Clinton oversaw one of the largest economic growths of our nation, and we were at peace. What can you say about the current administration.
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What are you talking about? I'm having a debate with you here? Who is telling you to shut up?Originally posted by spanky part 2If the best you can do in defending the idiot president is to use Lincoln, well then your argument isn't very good. I find republicans kind of like spoiled children. Any time you say something against Bush, they automatically say well Clinton did this or Clinton did that. Just like kids, well he did it so why can't I.
Get over it, Clinton oversaw one of the largest economic growths of our nation, and we were at peace. What can you say about the current administration.
Liberal = I think everyone has the right to an opinion. I think yours is fucked up and stupid, but you have a right to it.
Conservative = My opinion is right, and if you don't shut up we will have to brand you as a terrorist and go Patriot Act on your ass.
For your info I have had signs ripped out of my hands and had friends attacked by left wing protestors that didn't want us to have our freedom of speach. You must live in some kind of perspective bubble. I have never seen so much censorship as when I try to have my right to protest and it doesn't agree with the left.
You seem to have a very narrow field of knowledge and experience.
As for Peace during Clinton. Are you nuts? How old are you? This was only a few years ago and you have forgotten all the conflicts that we were involved in during Clinton? Do some simple research if you can't even remember the last 15 years.
I think that the reason why the right brings up Clinton is that there never seems to be protestors when the war is being run by a democrat....
You would think that peace is peace and war is war....but as far as I can see War is wrong....unless a democrat is presidentMichael Sperber / Acella Financial LLC/ Online Payment Processing
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Originally posted by sperbonzo
And by the way, Lincoln actually provoked a war with the south because they were practicing their right to succeed from the union... read some consititutional history, they had the right to do that according to the original framers. The war was about the rights of states over the federal government, not slavery. Obviously I'm glad that things turned out the way that they did, but technically, the Confederacy was in the right. Linoln and the north were technically the aggressors, and they did NOT have the right to impose their will just because they wanted the cotten and agricultural products from the south.
Yea but the Confederacy was formed for one simple reason; because the southern states knew Lincoln was opposed to slavery and viewed him as a threat to end slavery. So the civil war was about slavery. The war wasnt started because the federal govt was trying to impose their will on the south, it was started when the south started siezing federal forts and thus the attack on Fort Sumter.Comment
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I would recomend a broader field of research if you are really interested in this subject. Please don't just rely on high-school history books. The issue of slavery was NOT the central issue and didn't come in until later. It actually started regarding land, trading and tariff issues.Originally posted by SuckOnThisYea but the Confederacy was formed for one simple reason; because the southern states knew Lincoln was opposed to slavery and viewed him as a threat to end slavery. So the civil war was about slavery. The war wasnt started because the federal govt was trying to impose their will on the south, it was started when the south started siezing federal forts and thus the attack on Fort Sumter.
Please also review the federalist papers regarding the intent of the constitution as regards to states rights.
I'm not trying to be condescending here, I'm merely suggesting that you get a little more info on the subject.
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There are always conflicts going on, but did Clinton ever go take our kids into a battle unprovoked. Iraq is the first and only war this country has ever started with absolutely no reason. Every other war or conflict has been to help allies or after we were attacked.Originally posted by sperbonzoWhat are you talking about? I'm having a debate with you here? Who is telling you to shut up?
For your info I have had signs ripped out of my hands and had friends attacked by left wing protestors that didn't want us to have our freedom of speach. You must live in some kind of perspective bubble. I have never seen so much censorship as when I try to have my right to protest and it doesn't agree with the left.
You seem to have a very narrow field of knowledge and experience.
As for Peace during Clinton. Are you nuts? How old are you? This was only a few years ago and you have forgotten all the conflicts that we were involved in during Clinton? Do some simple research if you can't even remember the last 15 years.
I think that the reason why the right brings up Clinton is that there never seems to be protestors when the war is being run by a democrat....
You would think that peace is peace and war is war....but as far as I can see War is wrong....unless a democrat is president
How many US soldier were killed in Kosovo...............
We have another Vietnam people and we better get used to it. They are sending another 1500 more over. There is absolutely no exit strategy. Shit they are planning for 4 more years of war, right now. Did we learn nothing from that war?
If you love the president and his policies so much, why not volunteer and get on the next plane over there. I already did my stint in the first war.
Remember the first Iraq war, when our ally Kuwait was attacked?
Why do I think the sign you had ripped out of your hands, was at a anti-abortion rally. You seem like the type that would be screaming about saving a 16 cell unborn, but has no problem sending 18 year olds to die.
Just a guess.Comment
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Actually Bush created terrorists in Irak ...Originally posted by GatorBYeah right. Bush's cock must taste good he's got so many people sucking on it. By the way Iraq has NOTHING to do with 9-11 or terrorism other than the fact that ever since we invaded Iraq they have MORE terrorists in Iraq than before.Originally posted by rayadp05I rebooted, deleted temp files, history, cookies and everything...still cannot view the news clip. All I see is that fucking gay ass music video from "Rick Roll". Anyone else have a different link to the news clip?Comment



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