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Nifield 08-25-2005 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
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Amateur-Flix (03:02 PM) :
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Nifield (03:04 PM) :
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this program is as much of a jump in gallery submitting as from when I went from all manual submissions to using Advanced Submitter, my previous program

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Amateur-Flix (07:47 PM) :
np, go right ahead

spanky part 2 08-25-2005 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve
http://inflationdata.com/inflation/i...l_20050819.gif

The significant difference between the rise in the current rise in the price of oil and other such highs (eg early 1980s) is that there is no single external shock that is driving the price up. The increases are fueled (no pun intended) by several factors:

- speculation to the upside bases on emerging demand issues especially from large, developing countries (eg China)
- speculation of some event that will affect oil production
- Real supply vs. Demand factors (long term and short term, eg seasonal changes in demand, popularity of gas-guzzlers, real demand in countries like china)

The reason this rise is manageable is because it is not volatile. Like inflation, rising or dropping prices are manageable when they are predictable. That is, high inflation is ok if you know that its going to be high. Volatility and shocks are problematic. The market has basically priced in a fairly large shock already, which would lessen the effect if there were an actual shock.

Look at your own graph. When did the oil prices start to rise? When Bush took office. Seems strange that all of a sudden the world started to run out of oil when he took office, doesn't it?
Seems more like the corporate "pigs" were at the trough waiting for the feeding to begin.

I have read all of the statistics about the oil production bubble, and it has had several holes poked in, by people smarter than you or I. It's simple profit taking. If it was a supply problem, then I doubt Exxon-mobil would be having the largest profit ever for a US company.

Just look at today, oil prices are up because of the tropical storm that "might" hurt production. There seem to be a lot of these "mights' lately.

We are all at fault for buying these gas pigs of cars. I myself bought a very gas efficient car a couple of months ago. Kind of funny that they are pushing hybrid cars that get 40-50 mpg. Shit back in 81 I had a dodge colt that got 45 mpg, and it wasn't a hybrid.

How did we go backwards so far. Very short memory, I guess.

But hey, the just extended the tax credit for hummers and full size suv's! :thumbsup

Dollarmansteve 08-25-2005 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2
I have read all of the statistics about the oil production bubble, and it has had several holes poked in, by people smarter than you or I. It's simple profit taking. If it was a supply problem, then I doubt Exxon-mobil would be having the largest profit ever for a US company.

uhhh.. thats why I said 'speculation'.. broad speculation in a market is more powerful than the whim of a corporation to profit-monger. And please dont mention enron, they traded in proprietary markets.

jayeff 08-25-2005 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rickholio
Using GDP to measure the economic health of a country is an extremely blunt instrument at best, and often misleading. There are more and imo better methods to measure improvements 'on the ground', as it were.

You are absolutely right. The beginning of my post was a response to someone who had bought into the headlines about "record deficits" and the like. We now face a media which has gone from dumbing us down to actually feeding us misinformation, the result is that we end up squabbling over irrelevancies.

Your comments about employment expanded on what I was referring to in "There is globalization which has a direct effect on (real) employment levels and wages". You could also have mentioned that during the past 20 years, while blue collar wages have barely increased at all, CEO salaries have jumped 300%. That isn't just a symptom of a sick economy, but of a sick society and if that trend continues, gated communities will become not merely a vanity, but a necessity.

To drift even further from your response, there have been many changes in the political landscape during my lifetime. Possibly the most curious is that back in the 50's and 60's, Americans didn't think in terms of left- and right-wing when talking of the two big parties. Instead, we took it for granted that all Americans (except for a few eccentrics perhaps), were essentially right wing and that the main differences were which constituencies they represented: Republicans the wealthy, Democrats the workers. The middle class split according to the degree of optimism they felt about their futures.

I throw in that observation because it is another way in which we have been manipulated into debating irrelevant issues and adopting positions which have little to do with reality. And while we are busy insulting each other as immoral fascists and flag-hating liberals, the politicos and their friends have their snouts deep in the trough.

Greg B 08-25-2005 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
You are absolutely right. The beginning of my post was a response to someone who had bought into the headlines about "record deficits" and the like. We now face a media which has gone from dumbing us down to actually feeding us misinformation, the result is that we end up squabbling over irrelevancies.

Jayeff,

I respect you much as over the years you've never lied or bullshitted us. I've seen you hold your own and keep things on an even keel when others were falling apart at the seams.

So I value your opinions and observations whether they're industry based or not.

Yet this time you've hit the nail on the head to something that I can speak from from experience and that is the media and it's being used to fuck us over.

I got out of mainstream news almost 20 years ago because I saw how the intelligence communities were taking over during the Reagan Administration. People bitch and moan about Reagan but we loved that old man. He was always there for us no matter what and many a great newsman and newswoman who raised me knew him personally. We knew he was in trouble soon as he took office and when he got shot it confirmed that. We were all on our toes. Reagan wasn't the problem, it was the leeches and scumbags surronding him that were.

There were stories of great importance that would go by the wayside in favor of propoganda. Those were the days when the Iran Contra thing was going on. Dope and weapons and sex slaves were the name of the game then.

Lots of news guys split. We had no choice but to take our chances in the streets or other venues. Lotsa guys played it 'safe' and are working cushy jobs but their consciences caught up with their asses and now it's eating them up.

Yet when you tell people this they wanna call you a conspiracy nut or some shit.

Well whose cryin' now? Let's look at the stats:

We're in a global debacle caused by a religious nut we funded decades ago.

Nuclear weapons are proliferating amongst our old enemies who are back to being our enemies again after the supposed Cold War ended.

We have horrid diseases about to envelope the planet and no one paid any attention because only us conspiracy nuts talked about it.

Global warming is a fact. So what yeah any volcano could do the same thing if it super erupted, but why add to the problem?

We are one remark away from a totalitarian state and our legislative, judicial branches are about as helpful as wipin' your ass with sandpaper.

Whether you like them or not, guys like Jeff Rense from rense.com and Alex Jones from prisonplanet.com have been warning about this shit for years.

Greg B 08-25-2005 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Nifield
Hit me up in ICQ if you have any questions or concerns and i'll be more than happy to give you a hand.

Oh, I'm already sold!

I know how auto submitters can do wonders and I've been using cool Craig's TGP Wizard. Works like a charm!

I know how your submitter works cause I read the specs and there is no doubt traffic and quality traffic can be had in a short time. That's the key, quality traffic. TGPs and MGPs are the trick, not search engines anymore.

That pay per click and keyword bidding shit is for the birds.

rickholio 08-25-2005 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by jayeff
You are absolutely right. The beginning of my post was a response to someone who had bought into the headlines about "record deficits" and the like. We now face a media which has gone from dumbing us down to actually feeding us misinformation, the result is that we end up squabbling over irrelevancies.

Look! MISSING WHITE WOMAN! OVER THERE! Find out what completely irrelevant people think about it! Also, 72 things in your kitchen CAN KILL YOU! Are your children at risk of SUDDEN, HORRIBLE, PAINFUL DISFIGURATION AND DEATH? Find out at news at 11! :karaoke

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Your comments about employment expanded on what I was referring to in "There is globalization which has a direct effect on (real) employment levels and wages". You could also have mentioned that during the past 20 years, while blue collar wages have barely increased at all, CEO salaries have jumped 300%. That isn't just a symptom of a sick economy, but of a sick society and if that trend continues, gated communities will become not merely a vanity, but a necessity.
Globalization is only one half of the story. Money's being syphoned out from the top by the BigCos and jobs are being eaten away from below by globalization/outsourcing. People in the middle are feeling the pinch in a big, big way.

I also didn't get into how much people are now dependant on debt (I touched on it briefly about leveraged real estate being the sum of personal wealth for many) and the bankruptcy laws which may well reinstate indentured servitude wholesale... and woe betide anyone who happens to fall ill, with or without insurance (50% of all bankruptcies over the last year are medically related, and 75% of those bankrupts had insurance at the start of their illness)

I think we're both reading from the same page on this issue though. :thumbsup

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To drift even further from your response, there have been many changes in the political landscape during my lifetime. Possibly the most curious is that back in the 50's and 60's, Americans didn't think in terms of left- and right-wing when talking of the two big parties. Instead, we took it for granted that all Americans (except for a few eccentrics perhaps), were essentially right wing and that the main differences were which constituencies they represented: Republicans the wealthy, Democrats the workers. The middle class split according to the degree of optimism they felt about their futures.

I throw in that observation because it is another way in which we have been manipulated into debating irrelevant issues and adopting positions which have little to do with reality. And while we are busy insulting each other as immoral fascists and flag-hating liberals, the politicos and their friends have their snouts deep in the trough.
I think Frank Zappa said it best:

I used to have a job an' I was doin' very well
Depression came along an' everybody start to yell
"Where'd they go, them good ol' days, an' all that crap we used to sell?"
Now I'm in Hot-Plate Heaven, at the Green Hotel

Republicans is fine if you're a multi-millionaire
Democrats is fair if all you own is what you wear
Neither of 'em's REALLY right 'cuz neither of 'em CARE
'Bout that Hot-Plate Heaven... 'cuz they ain't been there!


Really, the trite, contrived tit-for-tattery of what passes for journalism is what they trundle out when they can't sufficiently distract people from a missing white woman these days. It's bread and circuses, except they make you pay for the bread, and if you have cable, you pay for the circus too. :2 cents:

Rui 08-25-2005 11:45 AM

Things are going to get very ugly (much worse than now) really soon...

rickholio 08-25-2005 11:46 AM

Too late edit:

Really, the trite, contrived tit-for-tattery of what passes for journalism is what they trundle out when they can't sufficiently distract people WITH a missing white woman these days.

Greg B 08-25-2005 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rickholio
Look! MISSING WHITE WOMAN! OVER THERE! Find out what completely irrelevant people think about it! Also, 72 things in your kitchen CAN KILL YOU! Are your children at risk of SUDDEN, HORRIBLE, PAINFUL DISFIGURATION AND DEATH? Find out at news at 11! :karaoke


Globalization is only one half of the story. Money's being syphoned out from the top by the BigCos and jobs are being eaten away from below by globalization/outsourcing. People in the middle are feeling the pinch in a big, big way.

I also didn't get into how much people are now dependant on debt (I touched on it briefly about leveraged real estate being the sum of personal wealth for many) and the bankruptcy laws which may well reinstate indentured servitude wholesale... and woe betide anyone who happens to fall ill, with or without insurance (50% of all bankruptcies over the last year are medically related, and 75% of those bankrupts had insurance at the start of their illness)

I think we're both reading from the same page on this issue though. :thumbsup


I think Frank Zappa said it best:

I used to have a job an' I was doin' very well
Depression came along an' everybody start to yell
"Where'd they go, them good ol' days, an' all that crap we used to sell?"
Now I'm in Hot-Plate Heaven, at the Green Hotel

Republicans is fine if you're a multi-millionaire
Democrats is fair if all you own is what you wear
Neither of 'em's REALLY right 'cuz neither of 'em CARE
'Bout that Hot-Plate Heaven... 'cuz they ain't been there!


Really, the trite, contrived tit-for-tattery of what passes for journalism is what they trundle out when they can't sufficiently distract people from a missing white woman these days. It's bread and circuses, except they make you pay for the bread, and if you have cable, you pay for the circus too. :2 cents:

Rick, as much as we may argue and beef on the boards you are so dead on balls accurate!

Glad someone around here is old enough to remember Zappa! ( Titties & Beer )

Yep, we're all set up for slavery for sure! I know all about the debt scams going on. Did news reports on them for years!

Medical expenses and divorces. Two worst things that can happen to a guy. It's destroying the family structure of the country as it is! I remember as a kid if someone was divorced it was a news item of the day! Now if someone is married long enough to have an anniversary or two it's a miracle!

Dudes get FUCKED in our society. Be a breadwinner and you might as well walk down the street with a bullseye painted on your forehead.

About that kid in Aruba who's missing? NBC or ABC did a big ass special about how there are far more missing people right here in the U.S. that never got one second of air play because they weren't white! I mean they OWNED the news media over this shit. I can understand why as the majority of people in the U.S. are white. People forget that fact. When you have 200+ million white people in a country of almost 300 million the news is gonna swing in the majority's favor. It doesn't justify what the news media does but it's a fact.

Dig where the average guy is now, if he's just out of college and owes $100k what job can he get to pay that shit off? If he gets married and has a kid he's in hock til he's 60 years old. If he gets a divorce which is a 55% probability, he's FUCKING OWNED FOR LIFE.

And now he can't even claim bankruptcy.

Makes me wanna hold up in a mountain cabin and make porn all day.

Greg B 08-25-2005 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Rui
Things are going to get very ugly (much worse than now) really soon...

I hope not but you may be right if we don't do something quick.

woj 08-25-2005 12:06 PM

You are all just speculating without any solid evidence to support your claims, if you are so sure it will hit $100/barrel by winter, talk to your broker, buy some options and make a killing. But let me guess, you won't have the balls to put your money where your mouth is?

Rui 08-25-2005 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
I hope not but you may be right if we don't do something quick.

Diesel reached an historic price here today... 1?/liter :helpme

Greg B 08-26-2005 02:12 AM

Y'see, I hate it when I'm right about things that are wrong:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/08/26/D8C7BBRO0.html

It's a story update on violence regarding high gas and oil prices. If we don't do something fast we might end up at each other's throats by winter.

Greg B 08-26-2005 02:18 AM

Well here's a story that spells it out in precision terminology and historical events. Well worth the read as it breaks down what is going on and how it could get worse.

http://www.rednova.com/news/display/...urce=r_science

Greg B 08-28-2005 04:39 PM

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/...&w=RTR&coview=

I was right. Oil is NOW over $70 per barrell. 25% of the U.S. refined oil is dead in the path of this monster storm.

I expect it to hit the $80 mark by next weekend. Expect $4 to $5 per gallon for premium by mid September at the latest.

Nightnday 08-28-2005 04:47 PM

A barrel will NOT hit $95 this year, maybe $68-70, next year it will go higher, thanks to Bush for that!

If it get over $70, and the fisrt to post on my board get clothes for the rest of the year from me!

Greg B 08-28-2005 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightnday
A barrel will NOT hit $95 this year, maybe $68-70, next year it will go higher, thanks to Bush for that!

If it get over $70, and the fisrt to post on my board get clothes for the rest of the year from me!

Dude, like spamming during a disaster thread is like lower than snakeshit in quicksand.

Oil has already hit $70+ just read the link above yours. I want a year's worth of clothes by default as I posted it first. No I ain't signin' up for your program to post on your board.

Greg B 08-31-2005 02:30 PM

Gas prices risin' in Los Angeles faster than a new nookie boner.

Greg B 09-05-2005 01:05 PM

http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds...afx2205462.html

Told ya so. Forbes just published an article about oil reaching $100 a barrel.

TehKinkyHotness 09-05-2005 02:09 PM

We should all invest our money in moped manufactures...

woj 09-05-2005 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
http://www.forbes.com/finance/feeds...afx2205462.html

Told ya so. Forbes just published an article about oil reaching $100 a barrel.

try again :-/

Greg B 09-05-2005 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by woj
try again :-/

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...s_050904040628

rickholio 09-07-2005 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Greg B

I'd much rather oil hit $100 for psychological and speculative reasons now, rather than critical supply shortages later. God knows the planet needs a serious kick in the ass to get it started SERIOUSLY on looking for a replacement to liquid dinosaurs.

Greg B 09-07-2005 03:50 PM

71% increase in heating if you use gas, 31% increase if you use oil for this winter according to NBC Nightly News.... Add to that just the price of filling your tank, and the increase in goods due to higher costs and you can see a collapse coming...

tranza 09-07-2005 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg B
Mark my words. Oil will hit $100 a barrel easy by Winter. All the bad guys need is one terrorist attempt or natural disaster.

Let's just hope this doesn't happen, the economics effect of such a hit would be pretty nasty for the whole world.

dready 09-07-2005 05:00 PM

I'll go further and say $100 this winter... $200 within 2 years.

Greg B 09-08-2005 12:04 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/08/D8CG3S7O0.html

See? No sooner said than done... Watch the shark's smell blood in the waters ....

EroticySteve 09-08-2005 12:32 PM

There is a thread on Forbes' prediction on a near-term and sudden drop/normalization in oil price back to previous levels of $35 to $40 per barrel.

Dollarmansteve 10-16-2006 10:14 AM

Bump for people who still talk about $100 oil... it's still not happening no matter how much you panic and talk about it.

Gottis 10-16-2006 10:19 AM

I predict oil will hit $400 per barrel within 100 years. MARK MY WORDS

Fizzgig 10-16-2006 10:29 AM

Didn't Russia just discover huge oil resources in their part of the Arctic?

69pornlinks 12-24-2006 02:57 PM

bump....

juz 12-24-2006 03:02 PM

:1orglaugh

TyroneGoldberg 11-21-2007 12:24 PM

Think so?

jalami 11-21-2007 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dollarmansteve (Post 11087219)
Bump for people who still talk about $100 oil... it's still not happening no matter how much you panic and talk about it.

oil's at $99.29


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