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Old 08-22-2005, 05:57 PM   #1
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Car Companies vs. Cigarette Companies

They both kill.

People know there is a chance of getting in to an accident in a car and dying.

People know there is a chance of dying if they smoke cigarettes.

So why the hate on cig makers. People are just jelous that cig companies are making all this profit. And now, you cant even sue them! hahah! They also get new smokers by putting out anti-cig commercials. They have it so perfect now.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:09 PM   #2
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Holy shit, first thread where everyone agress with me?

Well, Its the truth so no arguments here.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:15 PM   #3
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such a childish comparation.
all people who smoke more than 6 months more than 5 cigs everyday have bronchitis.
the world is full of people who drive for years and never had an accident.

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Old 08-22-2005, 06:15 PM   #4
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Well Bridgestone didn't fare so well. After all, the car isn't the killer, its the tires.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:16 PM   #5
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Is it the tires or the drivers themselves?
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:17 PM   #6
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Comparing cars to cigs. Yeah right.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:19 PM   #7
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You can say car companies are worse.

Do you have any control over wtf happens on the road? Some asshole can come and hit you with his CAR and kill you. You dont see people making anti-car commercials.

Noone comes and put a cig all up in your ass and wait 20 years for you to die.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:21 PM   #8
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You can say car companies are worse.

Do you have any control over wtf happens on the road? Some asshole can come and hit you with his CAR and kill you. You dont see people making anti-car commercials.

Noone comes and put a cig all up in your ass and wait 20 years for you to die.
What a crap
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:23 PM   #9
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What a crap
Thanks for agreeing with me man. It is crap.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:26 PM   #10
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Thanks for agreeing with me man. It is crap.
Yep you are talking crap all thread long, what did you smoke
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:29 PM   #11
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Yep you are talking crap all thread long, what did you smoke
Why am i wrong? You are just saying im wrong, but not saying how. I smoke newports btw.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:38 PM   #12
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Why am i wrong? You are just saying im wrong, but not saying how. I smoke newports btw.
Smoking cigs results in your health getting worse.
Driving a car doesnt have any affect on your health unless you get a accident.

Accidents can happen with everything/anywhere. You say cars kill. They kill by accidents.

A train could crash aswell
A airplane could crash aswell

Lets make anti - train/airplane commercials
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:42 PM   #13
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At least, a car is usefull for something... goiing somewhere.

The only place you can go with cigarette is to hell!!!!

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Old 08-22-2005, 06:47 PM   #14
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"Smoking cigs results in your health getting worse."
That is a weak argument.

Eating to much at fast food can results in your health getting worse. Should we ban fast food?

Unprotected sex can get you can results in daying of aids. Should we not have sex?

So many more examples like these....
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:50 PM   #15
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am glad i don't smoke.
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:50 PM   #16
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you can say that shit about anything.. cig companies are like car companies are like... silverware companies! SOMEONE WITH A FORK JUST MIGHT COME STAB YOU NO!
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Old 08-22-2005, 06:57 PM   #17
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Eating to much at fast food can results in your health getting worse. Should we ban fast food?

Unprotected sex can get you can results in daying of aids. Should we not have sex?

So many more examples like these....
That's exactly the crap you are saying. You say cars are bad aswell. So trains are bad aswell, and airplanes and and and. It's endless. Cigs get you a bad health and others around you who dont smoke. The reason the government puts up anti commercials is to safe useless $ on the health care because it gets people cancer ect.

No car has ever given someone cancer
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:01 PM   #18
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Eating at mcdonalds can give you a heart attack.

There are a lot of bad things yes, cigs are just one of them. Why are the cig companies getting singled out.
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Old 08-22-2005, 07:54 PM   #19
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I am more owrried about the toxic fumes from car exhaust than I am about an accident.
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:01 PM   #20
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No car has ever given someone cancer
Not true
likely pathogens in car exhaust:

Carbon Monoxide
Nitrogen dioxide
Sulphur dioxide
Suspended particles including PM-10, particles less than 10 microns in size.
Benzene
Formaldehyde
Polycyclic hydrocarbons

Benzene and other less known hydrocarbons are produced in petroleum refining, and are widely used as solvents and as materials in the production of various industrial products and pesticides. Benzene also is found in gasoline and in cigarette smoke. It has been shown that exposure to benzene is related to the development of leukemia and lymphoma
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Old 08-22-2005, 08:06 PM   #21
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such a childish comparation.
all people who smoke more than 6 months more than 5 cigs everyday have bronchitis.
the world is full of people who drive for years and never had an accident.

PS: I shouldn't have posted, you're just a post bot
At least you cleared things up for some idiots.
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uhhhhhhhhh wow that is a stupid comparison
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that would be the dumbest analogy I have ever heard.
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:20 PM   #24
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yeah i saw them commercials, the commercials will never help if people want to smoke theyll smoke, and people are addicted to smoking so they surely wont stop because of a TV ad
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Old 08-22-2005, 11:28 PM   #25
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uhhhhhhhhh wow that is a stupid comparison
Great, now tell us why?
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A naive comparison, but you could argue that the car companies should come in for more criticism than they do. Back in the mid-80's I used to write about cars for newspapers and magazines, and in the course of that work I visited several manufacturers R&D departments. They already had working models of the hybrid cars we are only just beginning to see on the market, along with many safety and anti-pollution features, some of which have still not appeared in production vehicles 20 years later.

Car manufacturers of course argue that their decisions are market-driven and that they cannot include, for example, a safety feature which buyers would not perceive as justifying an increase in the cost of their products. That is their reasoning, not only for witholding technology until they perceive a marketing advantage, but also for lobbying very effectively against legislation which would force its introduction.

Which is the same reasoning behind inadequate drug testing, unhealthy food being sold in supermarkets and restaurants, etc, etc. All of these things kill people, shorten and limit lives. And because we are unwilling to tackle in a broader arena the fundamental question of when/if profits should take a back seat to social responsibility, we end up using the courts when we think that companies have gone too far.

It's an inadequate response, even if people who are foolish enough to believe they will never be victims can be persuaded they would be better off with lower costs than allowing companies to be sued. The reality however is that a company like Merck, the producers of Vioxx, will at worst likely lose not more than half the profit they made from a product that allegedly killed or damaged the health of thousands of people. That hardly seems like an incentive to take greater care in future.
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They both kill.

People know there is a chance of getting in to an accident in a car and dying.

People know there is a chance of dying if they smoke cigarettes.

So why the hate on cig makers. People are just jelous that cig companies are making all this profit. And now, you cant even sue them! hahah! They also get new smokers by putting out anti-cig commercials. They have it so perfect now.
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Why dont you go sue a cig company? O yeah, thats right, you cant sue anymore!
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I relax with a cig, thats a benefit.
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:18 PM   #35
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Do you have any control over wtf happens on the road? Some asshole can come and hit you with his CAR and kill you. .
some asshole...not the car.
it's just a tool, just like a hammer....some asshole can throw a HAMMER on your head and kill you.
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Old 08-24-2005, 05:32 PM   #36
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This is the point im trying to make.

Cigarette Companies dont come to you're house and put cigs in you're mouth and force you to smoke. A person does it with their free will. They know its bad, but they choose to do it.

No need to blame the cigarette companies.

Its like blaming a car company because you drove drunk and crashed the car. It makes not sense.
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