as soon as it started I said to my self,,,,cut the wheel to the right and slam it into reverse.

how fukin stupid are you to do this on video?

Read what I fucking wrote already people, I said that I told the fucking dude to get lost after he grabbed Ramona, and he went and gathered his friends, all 8, 8 on one and you had a gun you wouldnt have shot?

what should have happened was you should have had some friends in the business around to help thwart off an attack from 8 guys.


sorry there was no one man enough to help ya out....but hey at least you arent in jail serving 20 years and risking a life sentence when you defend your own life a few times.

staying out is the right choice

You said that if you had not thought that you would have been frisked, then you would have brought in a gun and then you would have shot someone for grabbing your GF ass
Somehow I doubt that you have a permit for the gun, since you claim to be an ex-felon.....

Never mind. I used to watch winners like you go to prison and get killed every day.

Good luck to ya! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fuck that.

Better tried by 12, then carried by 6.

No, there was security right there on the show floor, you go to where security is, taking your girlfriend with you, and then get those guys thrown out of the show.

end of story

I wish I hadn't watched that. I won't be watching any more of them.


:(

Mike you are a homeboy, but I disagree.

that is why in florida we have CCW's. There are times that security or the police cannont protect you and it is your right to defend yourself at all times.

They would have helped but the internet warriors didn't have their keyboards with them.

True, and if it had been out on the street, I would totally agree with self-defence. In the middle of a controlled enviroment like the show floor... no.

Dude again, you have no idea what your talking about, there was no security there at all, you think Im bullshittig? Ask Stewie and Vanilla DeVille they were there!

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh Man that is too funny! Good note to go to sleep on. Thats awesome. :thumbsup

So then you have to agree with me on my actions given my last statement...like I said ask stewie and vanilla they were there!

Respect! It sucks when cowards group up and start shit like that. Best to be prepare for when you meet that dude again in a future convention - revenge is a dish best served cold. :2 cents:

Adult-Con isnt well known for its "controlled enviornment". It's quite shabby

CLASSIC!!! :)

why the fuck did the one guy think he had the right to tell the other guy to move his car. only reason that asshole did that was to start a fight. i think gangbangers and wanna be gangbangers are pathetic. too many people nowadays are afraid to settle shit the old fashioned way. im sick of hearing kids always spouting off about shooting someone. all too many times have i had some guy threaten to come back n shoot me when he got thrown outta a some bar i worked in. and i dont feel like a pussy when i say that im glad none of em ever came back and did,lol. i dont think however that you gotta take a beatdown from 10 or 20 punks either. i have my concealed carry permit. i know the laws concerning justifyable homicide in my state. now i dont know why the guy told him to move his car, maybe he had good reason. but from what the video shows if the guy in the car had a permit and a gun, in my state after the other guy had punched him, he would have been justified in shooting. nowhere does it state that you have to endure x amount of injury before taking a life. the video itself proves that the guy in the car was not being confrontational. and that the guy outside the car was the agressor the whole time. once he punched the guy and started pulling him outta the car, the victim would have been justified in shooting. i dont condone gun violence and think punks who carry guns and threaten to shoot people need a good ald fashioned ass whoopin. but as a law abiding citizen with a permit that has attended more than a civilians fair share of tactical firarms use classes, i can tell you this much. i would have shot his ass right there on the spot. and then shot anyone who tried to shoot me afterwards or attack me in any way. with that many people around with a frenzied gang mentality he would have definately been justified. more people need take responsibility for thier safety. when enough homeboys get shot by law abiding people, then this shit will stop. i would have killed him. and i would NOT have went to prison.

the moral of this 3 page drama is.....lock them all up, 6 out of 10 of them will end up there eventually

No, the driver wouldn't have been justified in shooting the black dude.
Why? Because in court, the judge would have said "Your doing life you stupid bastard. You shot the guy instead of driving off and avoiding further confrontation."

People who shoot people are pussies.
People who can't fight one on one are pussies.
People who jump a man 2-3+ against one deserve to get their kneecaps taken out for good.

Very well said, and I totally agree! I'm not a gun toting punk, but I am well aware of my enviroment and were I am at, and I will take every measure possible to protect me and my loved ones!

There's a "No Refund No Return" policy white boy....Suck it up and deal with it. We're here to stay and we're MAD AS HELL AND WE'RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!

Exactly what i observed as well. I still love that someone on here thought "you cant shoot someone for (that)" . And i believe Dukes was trying to say the same thing you said here (albiet in a more heated fashion) and gets jumped on for it. Point the dude attacked the guy and had he been shot it would have been deserved.

What lala land do you live in? In Florida, we have this thing called Castle Doctrine. Look it up. You do not have to retreat.

I swear GFY has the largest psuedo Doctors, Lawyers, and now Judges of any board I've ever read.

thats why we lock you fellas up as fast as possible with minimal questions :thumbsup

so what your saying is that it was ok for the black gut to hit the guy SITTING in the car in which he had no way to defend himself? And to avoid further confrontation...the black guy confronted him...annd when was the last time you were able to back your car up when somebody outweighing you by 100lbs was punching you in the face? You must have a high tolerance for an ass beating!

While we are at it... Stats that have a reciprocal with Florida on Concealed Permits.

http://www.packing.org/state/florida/#otherstatehonors

* Alabama
Updated: 2003-02-06
http://www.ago.state.al.us/ag_items.cfm?Issue=64
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Alaska
Updated: 2005-06-01
http://www.dps.state.ak.us/PermitsLi...eciprocity.asp
(High confidence)
* Arizona
Updated: 2005-06-01
see http://www.dps.state.az.us/ccw/recip.asp
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Arkansas
Updated: 2004-08-13
http://www.asp.state.ar.us/chl/chl_gen2.html#Recip
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Colorado
Updated: 2003-07-02
http://cbi.state.co.us/ccw/reciprocity.asp
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Delaware
Updated: 2005-06-02
http://www.state.de.us/attgen/main_p...ledweapons.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Georgia
Updated: 2003-08-17
www.ganet.org/ago/press/press.cgi?year=2003
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Idaho
Updated: 2005-06-01
http://www.isp.state.id.us/patrol/faqs.html
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Indiana
Updated: 2003-02-07
http://www.in.gov/isp/faq/index.html
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Kentucky
Updated: 2003-03-13
http://www.kentuckystatepolice.org/conceal.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Louisiana
Updated: 2003-02-06
http://www.lsp.org/handguns.html
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Michigan
Updated: 2005-06-01
http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,1607,7-...0639--,00.html
(High confidence)
Resident Permit/License only
* Mississippi
Updated: 2005-08-21
http://www.dps.state.ms.us/dps/dps.n...p?OpenDocument
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Missouri
Updated: 2004-02-27

(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Montana
Updated: 2005-06-01
http://www.doj.state.mt.us/enforceme...ledweapons.asp
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* New Hampshire
Updated: 2002-11-30
http://webster.state.nh.us/safety/nhsp/plupr.html
(High confidence)
Resident Permit/License only
* North Carolina
Updated: 2005-08-21
http://www.ncdoj.com/law_enforcement/cle_handguns.jsp
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* North Dakota
Updated: 2003-03-16
ND permit holders must be 21 years old or older.
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Ohio
Updated: 2005-06-02
http://www.ag.state.oh.us/web_applic...eciprocity.asp
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Oklahoma
Updated: 2005-06-02
http://www.osbi.state.ok.us/PublicSe...eciprocity.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Pennsylvania
Updated: 2005-06-01
http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/cld/f...eciprocity.cfm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* South Dakota
Updated: 2003-02-06
http://www.state.sd.us/sos/Firearms/index.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Tennessee
Updated: 2005-06-02
http://www.state.tn.us/safety/handgun/reciprocity.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Texas
Updated: 2005-06-02
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/adminis...eciprocity.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Utah
Updated: 2003-02-06
http://bci.utah.gov/CFP/CFPFAQ/FAQOther.html
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Vermont
Updated: 2004-09-11
see general notes section of VT page
(High confidence)
* Virginia
Updated: 2004-08-15
http://www.vsp.state.va.us/cjis_reciprocity.htm
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok
* Wyoming
Updated: 2003-02-06
http://attorneygeneral.state.wy.us/dci/CWP.html
(High confidence)
Non-resident Permit/License ok

when you got a gang of people around you and you xant pull out cause they are blocking you in, then yes you are justified. if you slammed it in reverse and punched and hit someone, that is the same as using the gun. either way he would have been using a weapon of some type. the law in my state is clear on the fact that if you run someone over with a car it is no different than using a gun. i have attended classes n shit taught by the prosecuting attourney for my county of residence. i know what im talking about. if he COULD have pulled away with out hitting someone then yeah, that'd be the thing to do. BUT.... if he would have had to run some fucker down to get away because they were trying to not let him leave, then its the same as a gun, BUT, he still woulda been justified using the car, if it was his only way out. gun/ car, same thing.

yo, anthony, i got my permit from florida. but i live in ohio. i like the fact that florida permits have so many reciprosity agreements.

It's a wonderful thing. :)

Dude, I'm a 7 foot tall 280lb man. I've bounced in clubs for years and have been hit with everything from beer bottles, pool cues, pool balls and once a baseball bat in a parking lot after work.

You know what, unless you get knocked out, you could easily pull the fuck away while in a car. Roll your window up, lock his arm in it and peel out.

I don't care what laws you have, in that video the mand got hit once, then several moments went by where he just stayed there. He could have used that opportunity to back away. He didn't.

I know you have a new law in Florida and I don't know all the details of it, but from what I can see, if the guy driving would have pulled out a gun and shot the other guy instead of driving off, he would be in jail.

If it was as you say, and there was no security or control, then I retract the statement and apologise :2 cents:

Really cool guy.. i wish that i was him.

wonder what would have happned if it started when all were out of the car and not the mexican stuck behind the wheel and the brother getting free shots at him

but still.. crazy ass shit dgoing on

This should stand in all 50 states!
The Florida "Castle Doctrine" bill does basically three things:

One: It establishes, in law, the presumption that a criminal who forcibly enters or intrudes into your home or occupied vehicle is there to cause death or great bodily harm, therefore a person may use any manner of force, including deadly force, against that person.

Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others.

Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force.

It also prohibits criminals and their families from suing victims for injuring or killing the criminals who have attacked them.

In short, it gives rights back to law-abiding people and forces judges and prosecutors who are prone to coddling criminals to instead focus on protecting victims.

like i said. if he COULD have pulled away without running someone over then yes, that would be the right thing to do. but if he woulod have had to hit someone with the car, then he would still be using a weapon by state law. if he had to hit them to get away, then by implication the other people would have been trying to keep him there to impede his getaway. in which case, he would have been justified in either shooting, or using the car.

and i have a florida permit....

Bro really, no need to apologize, I'm not here trying to be tuff guy, i was just saying that I will do what I have to for the safety of my family and friends! Thats it, nothing more nothing less, and I was in a situation that could have got real ugly if I would have brought a gun that day. Thats it :thumbsup

I'm a 6 foot 1, 270lbs man. I'm still not going to take someone punching me, with the chance of after beating me, my children and wife are at danger.

Castle Doctrine, read what Duke just posted. I have every fucking right to kill that fucker dead for trying to harm me and my own.

lol, well said

Sometimes you have to take a breath when excited before posting. I understood the gist of your original post, but others, well, really who cares. :)

I've been the victim of posting with emotions running high quite a few times.

I fully agree. :thumbsup

This industry does not need bullshit like this.

shit, cant see it, the link wont open... is it still up?

Nahh, you are just clueless, hooked on crack and plain stupid.

Not everyone but 90% of blacks

holly **** fucking stupid black hit then still his wallet i guess its call ligitim defense

Good One

The video shows typical negro behavior when they are in groups. This is nothing new, nobody should be alarmed. I can not see what all the fuss is about. That is why it is always safe to carry a very high voltage tazer gun when you are out and about in negro populated areas and alone. When they single you out and are in a pack, you can make an example out of the one closest to you without putting too much effort into it.

From experience, when the rest of the pack sees one of their brothers hitting the ground twitching and spitting a milkshake out of his mouth, they will pannic and frantically dodge for the nearest watermelon to provide some sort of much needed comfort.

Why do these nobody surfer assclowns come out of the woodwork in racial threads?