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woj 08-25-2005 11:46 AM

100...........

RogerV 08-25-2005 01:50 PM

And the beat goes on

Cash 08-25-2005 02:06 PM

There was a dialer company that never paid anyone, Dialerco, their site is not even online nowadays ... Also Telcoweb (dialer) owed me money in the end (after initially paying all money due for months) ...

will76 08-26-2005 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat
he registered 1 year ago


LOL he believes only what he wants to believe. If he says he registered today then GFY must be wrong lol.

will76 08-26-2005 12:13 AM

I like how the clickcash haters attack clickcash related threads and try to say they are worst, they don't pay, etc... but when you have a true sampling of people listing all companies that have not paid them, the truth is more clear. Just about every major company was listed here, some a few times. how many times did you see ClickCash listed ?

proof it is just a handfull of haters who don't like clickcash who are very vocal (and who obviously missed this thread lol.)

jonnax 08-26-2005 12:20 AM

Ezgreen, some dialercompany i do not remember any more and http://www.vidshop.com/ did not pay me either :(

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew
oxcash has been paying everyweek for years. You either did not reach a minimum payment or you were terminated from the program for something.. Feel free to email me and i will look for it.. jordan at oxideas.com

Hard to believe or not, it took 20+ phone calls and many emails to get no check, despite a promise from the brass over there.

We sent 800,000+ clicks. They claimed their billing solution didn't process our signups, despite the fact that the billing provider (epoch, at the time) showed signups and rebills, yet Ox Cash's system didn't. They showed $50 on 800,000 clicks; it was laughable.

We called, complained, got a promise to follow up, got an excuse about affiliates trying to cheat, got another promise, no check, another follow up, an excuse about having problems with Epoch, etc, etc, and then no check again. Nada to this date (almost a year later). I don't really care, to be honest. It was only 6 hours worth of traffic -- if our servers had been down for that period, it would have been the same net result. *shrug*

I've never heard of OxCash cheating ANYONE, so it really surprised me. It was probably only a few thousand dollars (well, not including rebills) so it's not really a big deal. I think they're 99% reputable, but the thread is about being cheated -- and we were.

I'll post emails.

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:40 AM

Email 1 from OxCash:

Quote:

He didn't get back to me. Now, the OxCash login doesn't work. Does this mean you'll be keeping the money that we earned? I smell lawsuit.

--
Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism


> Hello,
>
> I have passed your message over to Penn.
>
> Thank you,
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:40 AM

Email #4 to/from OxCash:

Quote:

I guess you didn't feel like following up any further?

--
Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism


> Hello,
>
> What is your affiliate id and password.
>
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:41 AM

Email to/from OxCash, after they closed our account. This is after a LOT of phone stuff with Penn and everyone else, trying to solve it:

Quote:

It's been another month without response. Soon, we will have no choice but to pursue the matter through legal channels. Epoch stats told of several
signups through your system, even though your own stats did not. We are fully entitled to these rebills, and it's inappropriate for your company to
have closed our account simply because we complained about a lack of service.

--
Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com


----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:40 AM
Subject: [AFFILOC #6055]: Professionalism


> Hello,
>
> What is your affiliate id and password.
>
> Carol Santiago
> Account Representative

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:42 AM

Here's the "kiss off" email to Penn, after sending over 800,000 clicks to the program, seeing people sign up on Epoch's side, and seeing nothing on OxCash's side. After this, the Epoch account was emptied (down to one signup showing, then to zero) and the OxCash account password was changed. Hopefully, this helps you get some perspective on the situation. We sent 820,000 clicks to the program, documented by their own system. *shrug* Penn had a decent explaination over the phone, though: apparently, a lot of affiliates will cheat clicks through, and then demand payment. Still, it sucked how we ended up not working with them going forward -- they converted thousands of signups for us (granted, we didn't get the money), which is an AWESOME ratio.

Quote:

Penn,

I've left you numerous messages at this point, and I cannot continue to follow up with someone who is not going to return a phone call. You and I had an understanding that you were to contact me within a week concerning the underproductive nature of the traffic we sent you, or the misreporting of the stats, whichever the case may have been. I would have expected you to at least do the professional thing and return a phonecall. Compounding this issue, we sent 821,205 clicks in a short space of time, and even that
didn't rate us a call back or an email.

I'm disappointed that we had to pull the traffic -- we were only sending from 7 sites out of thousands, so the potential for a larger relationship was definitely there. In the future, you might do well to treat resellers with some level of professionalism and return a phonecall.


Thanks anyway for the time you initally spent.
--
Domenic R. Merenda
Vice President, Business Development
Edge Productions, Inc.
http://www.edgeprod.com
NOTE: I REPEAT, OxCash is most certainly a reputable company, and a LOT of people make a LOT of money with them. I am a member of their sites as a surfer, and enjoy their content. They simply dropped the ball on servicing us as an affiliate, and we were forced to get rid of them as a sponsor. Water under the bridge, and I'd have a beer with any of the guys/gals over there.

edgeprod 10-18-2005 12:44 AM

So anyway, I don't expect you to do anything about it, but the lack of communication from Ox Cash, despite numerous promises to reconsile the Epoch billing numbers with Ox Cash numbers, nothing was done, no one helped, and the follow up was horrible. It took me so many calls, so many emails, and NOTHING ever happened, no one even TRIED to help.

So I'm not holding my breath.

VeriSexy 10-18-2005 01:31 AM

Too much drama :helpme

sacX 10-18-2005 01:48 AM

altavista.com from their befree.com program in '99
commission junction
search123

surprisingly all main stream.

inthestars 10-18-2005 01:53 AM

netvideogirls.com

fris 10-18-2005 01:59 AM

teenfuns

SmutGiant 10-18-2005 02:05 AM

off the top of my head

intergal
cashforlink
sexyavs

I think that's all anyways...

u-Bob 10-18-2005 05:07 AM

adhearus .

studiocritic 10-18-2005 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pipecrew
oxcash has been paying everyweek for years. You either did not reach a minimum payment or you were terminated from the program for something.. Feel free to email me and i will look for it.. jordan at oxideas.com

bangbros has always paid me like clockwork :thumbsup even if the stats tracking is a joke :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

xfalmp 10-18-2005 05:26 AM

SwallowItAll affiliate program. It was run by one of the owners of OCCash.

Now I don`t have anything against OCCash and their crew, it looks like a solid sponsor. I even talked with one of ex owners of SIA, Morgan, which later partered with xxxjay, and he looked cool. He had Jettis mail me a check (which was actually 1/3 what was owned to me), but guess what? It bounced. :(

DutchTeenCash 10-18-2005 05:35 AM

besides Ibill :

donatieknop http://www.e-paycompany.nl or one of the other 400 Ltds they use

cant believe these aholes actually visit shows. They even got sued for fraud and still rip off n00bs.

I especially like the day one guy ICQd me and said so whats wrong with THEM. He worked for epaycompany.

DutchTeenCash 10-18-2005 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris
teenfuns

you do know these guys were kicked from cc bill right? cause of not exactly ok 2257 docs...

Radiate 10-18-2005 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
besides Ibill :

donatieknop http://www.e-paycompany.nl or one of the other 400 Ltds they use

cant believe these aholes actually visit shows. They even got sued for fraud and still rip off n00bs.

I especially like the day one guy ICQd me and said so whats wrong with THEM. He worked for epaycompany.

Whoah, didn't know this. Can you give more info on e-paycompany? I was talking to GeeDee from EPC at Amsterdam last month, he's a cool guy and I was preparing to do business with them.

eldominik 10-18-2005 08:09 AM

DeluxePass - not paid for a few months already, because i`m not sending any new traffic for like 2 years, and I want to get paid for my rebills

MafiaBucks - everything connected to Snow ended as a big Scam

RogerV 10-18-2005 08:11 AM

Ok this thread is an oldie but a goodie

who's bumping old threads

Marcin978 10-18-2005 08:15 AM

www.teenfuns.com running by two guys, they didn't pay me about $970

warning, one of this guy opened new program (it's just converted old teenfuns with new tour i think)
probably scammer too
http://www.forumophilia.com/topic5669.html

DutchTeenCash 10-18-2005 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcin978
www.teenfuns.com running by two guys, they didn't pay me about $970

warning, one of this guy opened new program (it's just converted old teenfuns with new tour i think)
probably scammer too
http://www.forumophilia.com/topic5669.html

these guys have serious issues, got kicked from ccbill and I can show you some sites promoting teenfans you dont wanna see AT ALL.

The Sultan Of Smut 10-18-2005 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RogerV
Ok this thread is an oldie but a goodie

who's bumping old threads

I don't care, I'm glad they did :)

moneymotivates 10-18-2005 09:21 AM

phonesexmoney :321GFY simon

BlingDaddy 10-18-2005 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx
these guys have serious issues, got kicked from ccbill and I can show you some sites promoting teenfans you dont wanna see AT ALL.

That's gay.

strobi 10-18-2005 09:51 AM

boobdollars,adult.com PPC,insiteadult

american pervert 10-18-2005 11:25 AM

gamelink

edgeprod 10-18-2005 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sultan Of Smut
I don't care, I'm glad they did :)

You're welcome.

Someone did a drive-by "Oh, you're just being silly -- we pay all the time!"

And I had to correct that bullshit.

ludwig 10-18-2005 04:54 PM

Well, Epiccash for around 700$+ a couple of years ago. I was buying google adwords traffic at time and sending it to a landing page. So I lost money on the traffic I bought as well. The 'Girl Fucks Guy' site was converting at approx 1:12, or something equally ridiculous, at the time!

Typical story, no money received from previous period, email several times, ask questions, emails go unanswered, can't login anymore.

On a brighter & more professional note, when Maxcash was having drama with the FTC, I waited months for my cheque. They owed me over 30K...I was worried BUT they paid!

Now, that, is PURE CLASS!

Thanks Aly :thumbsup

Jer 10-18-2005 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenGodFather
teenclicks.net
rush4gold

Same here.

+ trafalgarmarketing.com (Steve Goldman's exit sponsor)

Jer 10-18-2005 05:05 PM

I got a $40 check from cyberthrill casino but I'm not sure if it was cleared or not
(they kept a few hundred dollars, but sent $40)

VicD 10-18-2005 05:15 PM

http://www.directgalleries.com/index.php

Waiting for about $ 70,00

They never responded to my mails (around 10)

I'll keep on trying!

nico-t 10-18-2005 05:45 PM

i think i said it in here already and ill say it again: BoobDollars

nicchick 10-18-2005 05:49 PM

proadult
cashforlink

phonesex 10-18-2005 05:49 PM

AmericanTelnet fuck them they went out of business

RogerV 10-18-2005 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
i think i said it in here already and ill say it again: BoobDollars


Who owned boob dollars?

RogerV 10-18-2005 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ludwig
Well, Epiccash for around 700$+ a couple of years ago. I was buying google adwords traffic at time and sending it to a landing page. So I lost money on the traffic I bought as well. The 'Girl Fucks Guy' site was converting at approx 1:12, or something equally ridiculous, at the time!

Typical story, no money received from previous period, email several times, ask questions, emails go unanswered, can't login anymore.

On a brighter & more professional note, when Maxcash was having drama with the FTC, I waited months for my cheque. They owed me over 30K...I was worried BUT they paid!

Now, that, is PURE CLASS!

Thanks Aly :thumbsup

Try us out :winkwink:

Cogitator 10-18-2005 06:55 PM

Did someone say IBill already?

Asthma 10-18-2005 08:16 PM

you can count on www.triplexcash.com to pay you on time every time. try us

SmutGiant 10-18-2005 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asthma
you can count on www.triplexcash.com to pay you on time every time. try us

I remember promoting College Fuck Fest when you guys were using Websitebilling... WSB went under and all us affiliates got paid out of your own pockets. That will never be forgotten :thumbsup

pocketkangaroo 10-18-2005 08:31 PM

Movixo Money (an adult DVD rental place) owed me over $1000 plus however many rebills I'd have gotten.

inthestars 10-19-2005 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nico-t
i think i said it in here already and ill say it again: BoobDollars

They are still sending out webmaser newsletters..lol

over38 10-19-2005 06:32 PM

insiteadult
boobdollars
makingbank
dirtydollar

edgeprod 10-20-2005 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgeprod
So I'm not holding my breath.

And it appears there was no need anyway.

EroticySteve 10-20-2005 02:56 PM

Come to think of it

RogerV, we've never been paid a damn cent by you.

Care to explain yourself?


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