Which Backup Processor - Paycom or Verotel? - GoFuckYourself.com

menatplay · 08-22-2005, 12:07 AM

Hey im adding a second processor to my site so I can catch all the declines made by CCbill, who Im currently processing with. Infact since my current processing rates with CCBill are so high i might actually use the new one as my primary procesor if they are cheaper.

Im debating between Paycom and Verotel, each of which has its plus points

Paycom - Accept Switch and Solo which would open a whole new market of customers in the UK. anyone have any feedback on this?

Verotel - Multi currency billing (nice touch), European Direct Debit.

Or is there anyne else i should consider that offers all of the above in one package? Any info on this matter would be a huge help.eg. how do tehy compare in service, pricing etc.

cheers

Steen2 · 08-22-2005, 12:13 AM

I think Paycom and then as you grow add Verotel as well.

synapse · 08-22-2005, 12:18 AM

Personally I'd suggest you use both ... ccbill primary then fail over (technically or through support) to paycom ... then use verotel primarily for u'r EU traffic

EuroBill · 08-22-2005, 07:51 AM

@synapse

To be honest, we are not interested in being someones backup processor number nineteen but if you have European traffic you should definitely give us a try!

We process credit cards of all major European countries and offer Direct Debit payment for Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Switzerland as well. All web forms implement a Geo-Targeting system which automatically offers your surfers an appropriate language. The display of the prices of your products and services can be configured to be shown in many different currencies, making it possible for your customers to pay in their own, familiar local currency.

Please contact me via email or ICQ if you have further questions.

regards

menatplay · 08-22-2005, 10:38 AM

Hey thanks for the advice... sounds good.

Ill have a look into Eurobill too, looks interesting, i hadnt considered it.

spooky181 · 08-22-2005, 03:50 PM

Verotel have been great for us...

NETbilling · 08-22-2005, 03:52 PM

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Theo · 08-22-2005, 03:55 PM

i would go with epoch

synapse · 08-22-2005, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Mitch you have no idea how much I wish you guys could helps us, but as an Australian company, even with a NV LLC, we've been told NetBilling would have to run our bank through croatia or somewhere crazy, no thanx

... if we could get set up with NetBilling we'd never need any other processor

To anyone who is in the USA though and you wanna take u'r biz to the next lvl hit up Mitch

menatplay · 08-23-2005, 02:56 AM

Hi Mitch, I think i contacted Netbilling a few months ago and as far as I remember there was a problem because we are a UK regsitered business. is this right?

Ben.Z · 08-23-2005, 08:58 AM

Don't forget about online checks!!!

If your not accepting ACH (online checks) on your sites, your leaving money on the table!

WTS-Bank is the oldest and largest check processor in the industry, and we process for the majority of the largest programs on the AdultNet. In business since 1997, WTS pioneered ACH processing on the Internet and has evolved into the most complete solution available for recurring membership sites. Complete with username/password management, cross-sales, membership upgrades, loyalty offerings, in-house collections and the best merchant support in the industry... WTS also only charges on COLLECTED monies, and there are no other fee's!

There are no costs to get setup, and our staff will have you up and taking transactions within 24-48 hours.

Drop me a line, or fill out our online application at the link above for more information.

I hope to hear from you!

Kind Regards,
Ben Zuckerman

Sales Manager
Web Transaction Services
Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168
ICQ: 138827832

Fetish · 08-23-2005, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by synapse

Mitch you have no idea how much I wish you guys could helps us, but as an Australian company, even with a NV LLC, we've been told NetBilling would have to run our bank through croatia or somewhere crazy, no thanx

... if we could get set up with NetBilling we'd never need any other processor

To anyone who is in the USA though and you wanna take u'r biz to the next lvl hit up Mitch

Yeah - Netbilling has been our primary for years now. Nobody can touch them IMO.

Fetish · 08-23-2005, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by menatplay

Hi Mitch, I think i contacted Netbilling a few months ago and as far as I remember there was a problem because we are a UK regsitered business. is this right?

I know they have UK banks that they work with as well but I think you havew to be doing 75k per month to get a merchant account there. I will ICQ mitch and ask him to respond on this thread again.

TheDoc · 08-23-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

The way I understood things is you guys don't have any open banks currently.. They are all full.. I have been waiting for like 4 weeks for a bank to open high-risk processing..

Kimmykim · 08-23-2005, 10:01 AM

Hey Chris, tell your wife to check her icq

Dalai lama · 08-23-2005, 10:02 AM

Go with epoch. Many extra features to make $

Radik · 08-23-2005, 10:05 AM

Verotel is great if you use wire xfers.. cheques get lost. Thats about all i know i've never not been paid.

menatplay · 08-23-2005, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dalai lama

Go with epoch. Many extra features to make $

arent Epoch and paycom the same?

EZRhino · 08-23-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

I got to admit that Netbilling did give my killer customer and technical support.

NETbilling · 08-23-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EZRhino

I got to admit that Netbilling did give my killer customer and technical support.

Why thank you very much!

Mitch

AdultMegaCash · 08-23-2005, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back

Fetish · 08-24-2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back

No shit man. We save so much money every year with them over using third party processing it is rediculous.

AdultMegaCash · 08-24-2005, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Fetish

No shit man. We save so much money every year with them over using third party processing it is rediculous.

bigdog · 08-24-2005, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMegaCash

Netbilling should be your first choice man. Great rates, and support. We've never looked back

well you need your own merchant account before you use netbilling

OY · 08-24-2005, 09:42 AM

You should not limit yourself to only 1, 2 or even 3 ways of getting paid. Use at least 2 - 3 credit card processors in a cascade, add a solid check processor for the US markets, declined cards or check transactions you should send to either Chargemelater.com or 123Bill.com - add a telephone billing option for those surfers that prefer that, direct debit solutions for EU market and so on...

- in general, OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE!

born · 08-24-2005, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support.

Thank you, Mitch Farber

I agree with Mitch... With NB you will get awesome rates (using your own Merchant account) and their customer service/End user support is second to none!!! Very professional and they know all the tricks to maximize your $$$.

B-

OY · 08-24-2005, 10:24 AM

Clients of ours using Netbilling report of very very good results and you can use them in a true cascade in combination with a third party processor as well.

KGucci · 08-24-2005, 10:40 AM

Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

Certified EU IPSP
Secure Payments
Weekly Payouts
Funds held by the bank
Full documented
Fully traceable
Each wire is bonded
Payouts in your selected currency

Fetish · 08-25-2005, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KGucci

Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

Certified EU IPSP
Secure Payments
Weekly Payouts
Funds held by the bank
Full documented
Fully traceable
Each wire is bonded
Payouts in your selected currency

What banks do you use?

NETbilling · 08-26-2005, 12:08 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone. Can I answer questions for anybody??

Mitch

menatplay · 08-30-2005, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NetBilling

Thanks for the kind words everyone. Can I answer questions for anybody??

Mitch

Yes please Mitch, so where do we stand as a UK regsitered company wanting to open a merchant account and process with Netbilling?

DutchTeenCash · 08-30-2005, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KGucci

Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative.

Certified EU IPSP
Secure Payments
Weekly Payouts
Funds held by the bank
Full documented
Fully traceable
Each wire is bonded
Payouts in your selected currency

that email template weve got was a complete joke messy as hell and lotsa errors. Plus imho 25c per transactions sucks, its another way of increasing costs.

throwdown · 08-30-2005, 01:50 AM

paycom of course

KGucci · 08-30-2005, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish

What banks do you use?

Fetish ~ Please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected] to go over your question. Thanks!

KGucci · 08-30-2005, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkx

that email template weve got was a complete joke messy as hell and lotsa errors. Plus imho 25c per transactions sucks, its another way of increasing costs.

thinkx ~ Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Can you please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected]. I would be happy to talk about the rates and the transaction fees. Thanks!

Fetish · 08-30-2005, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KGucci

thinkx ~ Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Can you please contact me via ICQ (234-382-798) or email [email protected]. I would be happy to talk about the rates and the transaction fees. Thanks!

Isn't SEGpay old Ibill owners?

kmanrox · 08-30-2005, 11:03 PM

Paycom - its a no brainer.... i read threads about verotel going out of business at least once a week.... Paycom is stellar and not going anywhere.

basschick · 08-30-2005, 11:06 PM

paycom, for sure!

Webby · 08-31-2005, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fetish

Isn't SEGpay old Ibill owners?

Yep! IBill born and bred.

spunkmaster · 08-31-2005, 12:32 AM

Netbilling is one of the best for US Merchants !

xxxice · 08-31-2005, 12:34 AM

Paycom

Validus · 08-31-2005, 01:43 AM

If it was me, I would use Paycom. Best a combination of CCBill and Paycom if possible.

Maybe even a merchant account, which however can bare many risks with it.

KGucci · 08-31-2005, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby

Yep! IBill born and bred.

Segpay has no relationship to iBill.

A small group of us at SegPay did work at iBill at one time or another. We wanted to stay in the industry and continue working at an IPSP. That is the only tie back to iBill. None of us had any ownership in the company.

This seems to be a common theme coming from you so if you would contact me I would be happy to talk to you personally to clear this up.

NETbilling · 08-31-2005, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spunkmaster

Netbilling is one of the best for US Merchants !

Thank you very much! We also handle many offshore merchants too and provide call center services for many companies not even processing with us.

Thanks again, Mitch Farber

08-22-2005, 12:07 AM	#1
menatplay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lONDON Posts: 18	Which Backup Processor - Paycom or Verotel? Hey im adding a second processor to my site so I can catch all the declines made by CCbill, who Im currently processing with. Infact since my current processing rates with CCBill are so high i might actually use the new one as my primary procesor if they are cheaper. Im debating between Paycom and Verotel, each of which has its plus points Paycom - Accept Switch and Solo which would open a whole new market of customers in the UK. anyone have any feedback on this? Verotel - Multi currency billing (nice touch), European Direct Debit. Or is there anyne else i should consider that offers all of the above in one package? Any info on this matter would be a huge help.eg. how do tehy compare in service, pricing etc. cheers

08-22-2005, 12:13 AM	#2
Steen2 Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 7,662	I think Paycom and then as you grow add Verotel as well. __________________ ICQ: 2262.73945

08-22-2005, 07:51 AM	#4
EuroBill Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 13	@synapse To be honest, we are not interested in being someones backup processor number nineteen but if you have European traffic you should definitely give us a try! We process credit cards of all major European countries and offer Direct Debit payment for Germany, Austria, Netherlands and Switzerland as well. All web forms implement a Geo-Targeting system which automatically offers your surfers an appropriate language. The display of the prices of your products and services can be configured to be shown in many different currencies, making it possible for your customers to pay in their own, familiar local currency. Please contact me via email or ICQ if you have further questions. regards __________________ Tim Support Team EuroBill

08-22-2005, 03:52 PM	#7
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	We are here is you need us as well with incredible rates and top notch support. Thank you, Mitch Farber __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

08-23-2005, 08:58 AM	#11
Ben.Z Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: CardReady.com Posts: 1,164	Don't forget about online checks!!! If your not accepting ACH (online checks) on your sites, your leaving money on the table! WTS-Bank is the oldest and largest check processor in the industry, and we process for the majority of the largest programs on the AdultNet. In business since 1997, WTS pioneered ACH processing on the Internet and has evolved into the most complete solution available for recurring membership sites. Complete with username/password management, cross-sales, membership upgrades, loyalty offerings, in-house collections and the best merchant support in the industry... WTS also only charges on COLLECTED monies, and there are no other fee's! There are no costs to get setup, and our staff will have you up and taking transactions within 24-48 hours. Drop me a line, or fill out our online application at the link above for more information. I hope to hear from you! Kind Regards, Ben Zuckerman Sales Manager Web Transaction Services Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168 ICQ: 138827832 __________________ *Credit Card Processing for Adult Merchants* Contact me: Ben Z. (ben\|AT\|CardReady.com) ICQ_138827832 Toll Free: 1.888.398.6001 Ext.212

08-22-2005, 12:18 AM	#3
synapse NameNetwork.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,175	Personally I'd suggest you use both ... ccbill primary then fail over (technically or through support) to paycom ... then use verotel primarily for u'r EU traffic

08-22-2005, 10:38 AM	#5
menatplay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lONDON Posts: 18	Hey thanks for the advice... sounds good. Ill have a look into Eurobill too, looks interesting, i hadnt considered it.

08-22-2005, 03:50 PM	#6
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	Verotel have been great for us...

08-22-2005, 03:55 PM	#8
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	i would go with epoch

08-23-2005, 02:56 AM	#10
menatplay Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lONDON Posts: 18	Hi Mitch, I think i contacted Netbilling a few months ago and as far as I remember there was a problem because we are a UK regsitered business. is this right?

08-23-2005, 10:01 AM	#15
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	Hey Chris, tell your wife to check her icq

08-23-2005, 10:02 AM	#16
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	Go with epoch. Many extra features to make $ __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

08-23-2005, 10:05 AM	#17
Radik Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vancouver ICQ: 3588423 Posts: 808	Verotel is great if you use wire xfers.. cheques get lost. Thats about all i know i've never not been paid. __________________ 100% Exclusive, Check Us Out!

08-24-2005, 09:42 AM	#25
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	You should not limit yourself to only 1, 2 or even 3 ways of getting paid. Use at least 2 - 3 credit card processors in a cascade, add a solid check processor for the US markets, declined cards or check transactions you should send to either Chargemelater.com or 123Bill.com - add a telephone billing option for those surfers that prefer that, direct debit solutions for EU market and so on... - in general, OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE OPTIMIZE! __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

08-24-2005, 10:24 AM	#27
OY Industry Pioneer Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA/EU/ASIA Posts: 5,401	Clients of ours using Netbilling report of very very good results and you can use them in a true cascade in combination with a third party processor as well. __________________ Around since 1997, and the company that introduced "Cascading Billing" in MPA3® Affiliate Management and Tracking Software Outsourcing With A Norwegian Twist - NordBits - Inquire within!

08-24-2005, 10:40 AM	#28
KGucci Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoFla Posts: 653	Mentaplay~ Hit me up on ICQ 234-382-798 to talk about SegPay as an alternative. Certified EU IPSP Secure Payments Weekly Payouts Funds held by the bank Full documented Fully traceable Each wire is bonded Payouts in your selected currency __________________ www.SegPay.com KGreer at SegPay dot com Skype: kgucci

08-26-2005, 12:08 PM	#30
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Thanks for the kind words everyone. Can I answer questions for anybody?? Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

08-30-2005, 01:50 AM	#33
throwdown So Fucking Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: dirty south Posts: 997	paycom of course

08-30-2005, 11:03 PM	#37
kmanrox aka K-Man Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Gutter Posts: 29,292	Paycom - its a no brainer.... i read threads about verotel going out of business at least once a week.... Paycom is stellar and not going anywhere. __________________ Crypto HODLr Crypto mining Angel investor

08-30-2005, 11:06 PM	#38
basschick Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: el lay, ca usa Posts: 2,540	paycom, for sure! __________________ Got Gay and For Women Traffic?

08-31-2005, 12:32 AM	#40
spunkmaster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 2,052	Netbilling is one of the best for US Merchants ! __________________

08-31-2005, 12:34 AM	#41
xxxice Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,042	Paycom

08-31-2005, 01:43 AM	#42
Validus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 4,012	If it was me, I would use Paycom. Best a combination of CCBill and Paycom if possible. Maybe even a merchant account, which however can bare many risks with it.