And you've been around since Aug.???? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh There are really some old school people in this thread :2 cents:

Your doing a good job airek. :) Thanks for the help on icq earlier.

What is the big deal why not say who owns the company?

it seems shady to me.

Does anyone know who really owns Bang bros, yet everyone still send to them. and many others. Please don't take this personal but many program owners are very much behind the scenes

Airek has a stake in it and is the face to the company like many other programs out there. I'm sure the guys behind it have the money lets just call it a hunch :winkwink:

To target just them is not right :2 cents:

Most programs barely have an email to contact the owners yet webmasters will still send to them.
since when is there loyalty in this biz I put all my info out there and I feel I'm very much part of this community and industry as I feel Airek is as well.

Just a little advise anyone can fuck you in biz at anytime.

Very simple many programs are backed by the same business men why you ask so they can compete with eachother for lateral marketing. :2 cents:

lets just say the guys who started this biz will continue to keep a strong grasp of it.

The bottom line should be promote them, it they convert for you and you are making money who gives a shit who is behind the company. Trust me, I've been burned big time from companies I've worked with for years, spoke with them on weekly basis, and have visited their office.

Programs will come and go. You'll definately know about it on these type of boards of who is fucking who over. Thats how this biz is. I've been promoting since 1997 so I've had my fair share of being ripped off.

no shit lol gfy gets the news before cnn sometimes. you can't fuck people in the biz so easy with the internet around. its the information highway

Yes.

Many times the owner, or co-owner is the person who signs the checks.

Really? this thread has been up for a few hours and nobody seems to know who the fucking owners of a simple program are.

Im quite aware that the risk of being fucked over isnt increasing or decreasing with the owners of the program being anonymous.

Its just that IF i get fucked id LIKE to know whos fucking me...?

I find it very disturbing webmasters dont really seem to care who they are doing business with as long as they get paid. Thats very stupid for many reasons.

50..........

Just an FYI:
DNS1.RAGECASH.COM 66.28.204.75
DNS1.EXTREMEPAYCHECKS.COM 66.28.203.190

That says things pretty clearly.

WHOIS

RageCash.com
727-518-2101
Fax:727-518-2882

ExtremePaychecks
727-518-2101
Fax:727-518-2882


If mods feel the above information should not be posted please feel free to delete it.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh I've known for along time! :winkwink:

what matters is if there is enough cash behind the company to
cover pay per signup payouts until the recurring member base,
cross and upsells are ample enough to do so.
otherwise it is impossible to do so without shaving.
the math is basic and quite simple.
search oprano for the math and explanation by the only guy I trust in
this business, bill pmb.

maybe I'm wrong, but the point is.....why hide??????? What's the point? :2 cents:

don't talk about what you don't know or have a clue man :2 cents:

Plus I get the idea most newcomers posting in this thread don't have a clue about the money put into this...

Almost every new affiliate program seems to be owned by a pre-existing sponsor.

I send you traffic,

You convert it,

You send me money.

Other than that, I could give a rats ass who owns the mutha-fucka

Well shit, there it is..... everyone should be happy now.

LOL

yes, it's EPC. Drama's over. Peace

EPC people didn't hide their relationship with Ragecash. They messaged me last week to let me know about this new program. I can see it having more than one owner, that's why they didn't come out hey we own this program blah balh.

Anyhow, since it's backed by Extremepaychekcks to a degree, you won't have to worry about funds for their PPS program.

:1orglaugh

All the suspence and lack of details and public denials over the craploads of times the name ExtremePayChecks came up were....pointless