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GatorB 08-22-2005 01:26 AM
The people that threw that shingding ought to know better to try to do anything FUN in UTAH.

baddog 08-22-2005 01:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adulterate
they do have local #'s to call.. not just 9-1-1
yeah. . . everyone goes and looks up the 7 digit POTS number rather than dialing 911 . . . let me guess . . . .you are a stoned raver too?

klinton 08-22-2005 02:01 AM
http://www.icoulddobetterthanthat.co...digy_small.jpg

V_RocKs 08-22-2005 02:22 AM
Raves have been raided long before 9-11...

You originally stated that all needed docs were obtained and yet the 250 or more per gathering was not obtained. That is the FIRST document a promoter of any caliber should obtain. It is standard for just about ANYWHERE in the US to require one! (with different variations on the number of people)

Raves are often full of drugs and I haven't been to one yet that was drug free. Most of the raves I've attended sold drugs to the attendees or had a deal worked out with a dealer to provide them at a percentage.

Children under the age of 18 are common at raves and are the most likely to overdose or become incompacitated.

Inappropriate groping is extremely common at raves and is the most often complaint by women I've attended raves with.

If you are going to sit there and say that I am wrong you are a fucking moron or are just lying to serve your own agenda!

Now... I am not saying raves should be illegal. I am going to say that they should have age limits and that they should be more strict on drug use on the premisses of the venue (including the parking lot).

Rave producers who take steps to handle these problems don't get shut down. PERIOD and END OF STORY!

Tat2Jr 08-22-2005 02:23 AM
Wow.... so from the looks of this thread most of you pornographers feel like that was a justified use of power because teens were doing drugs????? I just really don't know what to say about that.

baddog 08-22-2005 02:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tat2Jr
Wow.... so from the looks of this thread most of you pornographers feel like that was a justified use of power because teens were doing drugs????? I just really don't know what to say about that.

Illegal assembly, illegal drug use, illegal consumption of alcohol, rape, gun possession . . . shall I go on?

reynold 08-22-2005 02:30 AM
spread the wealth man.

Tat2Jr 08-22-2005 02:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
Illegal assembly, illegal drug use, illegal consumption of alcohol, rape, gun possession . . . shall I go on?
Wow... you would have sucked to have at any of our parties when I was a teen..... and NO we didn't rape and have guns, but I don't think they did either.


I hate how all the baby boomers lost the true values of life they learned in the 60's.

Oracle Porn 08-22-2005 02:46 AM
dude your friend is making an acid party...obviously it can't happen in your state....
open air parties are the hardest to keep open.....lots of legal reasons...

baddog 08-22-2005 03:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tat2Jr
Wow... you would have sucked to have at any of our parties when I was a teen..... and NO we didn't rape and have guns, but I don't think they did either.


I hate how all the baby boomers lost the true values of life they learned in the 60's.

It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time

robfantasy 08-22-2005 03:07 AM
its one thing to disperse a gathering of people

its another to unleash dogs, beat people and stick guns in peoples faces when they arent even commiting a crime

Tat2Jr 08-22-2005 03:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time
Hell, we're on the same page here. Sure, I don't agree with some of the draconian mandatory minimums for drugs, but if you're fucking around and end up in the federal pen, ya'd better accept your fate. That's the bed ya made. That's not really what I was saying at all.

I just don't agree with that show of force to break up some teens doing drugs, having sex, and dancing..... or the huge waste of resources used for that when our borders are wide open just waiting for terrorists to cross over with the guy that mows my lawn. Or the money could have been used to help protect our food supply which is ripe for terrorist attack. Or use the money for just about anything but swooping down on a crowd of teens with helicopters and dogs to get the 60 bad apples.

Sorry, I'll pipe down now.... I'm just a godless liberal that should learn my place and toe the line.

crockett 08-22-2005 07:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
You read it on the Internet, so it must be true?
did you bother to watch the video? I agree I would think the story was made up if it didn't have the matching video..

pretty fucked up shit..

sternyduke 08-22-2005 07:59 AM
shit like that has been happening in arizona since 2000 that's why i quit throwing raves out here. fucking whack ass mormon state.

AmateurFlix 08-22-2005 09:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robfantasy
its one thing to disperse a gathering of people

its another to unleash dogs, beat people and stick guns in peoples faces when they arent even commiting a crime
Exactly.

If those cops hadn't of been playing soldier and had dressed and acted like policeman instead of thugs the whole event probably would have been dispersed without incident.

Just what was the purpose of wearing combat fatigues to disperse a group of concert goers?

crockett 08-22-2005 09:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AmateurFlix
Exactly.

If those cops hadn't of been playing soldier and had dressed and acted like policeman instead of thugs the whole event probably would have been dispersed without incident.

Just what was the purpose of wearing combat fatigues to disperse a group of concert goers?

Were they cops? Or where they using Army reserves as back up? I don't think cops dress in camo even if they are doing swat stuff.

uno 08-22-2005 09:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog
Illegal assembly, illegal drug use, illegal consumption of alcohol, rape, gun possession . . . shall I go on?
You make me laugh sometimes BD.

nofx 08-22-2005 09:50 AM
www.killpolice.com/forum

talk about it

riddler 08-22-2005 10:05 AM
hahahaha owned, serves them ravers right.. its wide known fact raves are a mecca and breeding ground for fucking drugs, they are almost worse than a phish concert touring america..

ravers are as bad as emos, now they will cry some until its thrown out of court because the ravers stink like vicks..

riddler 08-22-2005 10:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crockett
Were they cops? Or where they using Army reserves as back up? I don't think cops dress in camo even if they are doing swat stuff.
swat has tatical gear, nation guard comes in for crowd controls in events such as this..


Ok these promoters were stupid, They had the permits but they didnt report to local police that they had this event planned? Maybe these hop heads should talk to some big event promoters where BIG named bands play and ask how many fucking permits they have to obtain and how many places they have to contact to make sure it sits ok.

Breakyourself 08-22-2005 10:17 AM
evol intent rules

t.Dot 08-22-2005 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robfantasy
i wasnt there, just spreading the story.. that was someone else account of what happened
If you didnt witness it, how can you write all of that stuff?

t.Dot 08-22-2005 10:41 AM
by the way, what was the schedule of music?

Maybe the DJs sucked?

warlock667 08-22-2005 11:53 AM
OH MY GOD!!!!

HOW DARE THEY ARREST US WHILE WE ARE BREAKING THE LAW!!!!

OOH THE HUMANITIES!!!!



Let me guess, you're the one cheering for the one resisting arrest in all those 'police brutality' videos...

dirtysouth 08-22-2005 12:11 PM
Wow. Nick is a good friend of mine. LOL. Sucks the promoters didn't have their shit together. :2 cents:

That's him on the mic from the last show I booked him for.

http://www.djbs.com/mcknick_girl.jpg

dynastoned 08-22-2005 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by robfantasy
wtf are u talking about bro

raves dont mean people are there to do drugs. people go to have a good time and listen to music. if people do drugs its their choice like any other concert or public place.


and its good music... not that bullshit "im going to kill you, i have guns, i sell drugs, and i am a bad ass" bullshit they forcefeed you on the radio and mtv.

what a fucking double standard
LOL raves dont mean people are there to do drugs? shit when you hear the word rave whats the first thing that came to mind? hmm ecstasy maybe?

justsexxx 08-22-2005 12:33 PM
The USA is sooo great :)

justsexxx 08-22-2005 12:34 PM
Was it maybe a terrorist Rave?

RogerV 08-22-2005 12:42 PM
And the wonder why kids are getting in trouble caseu they have nothing to do.

when will the gov. understand

RogerV 08-22-2005 12:42 PM
And they wonder why kids are getting in trouble cause they have nothing to do.

when will the gov. understand

RogerV 08-22-2005 12:43 PM
And they wonder why kids are getting in trouble cause they have nothing to do.

when will the gov. understand the youth needs something to enjoy

je_rome 08-22-2005 05:49 PM
that's just nasty fucked up.

TreasureBucks 08-22-2005 06:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by INever
4400 more enemies of the state
good point.

but since most of the people there probably couldnt care any less about voting... doubt it would turn into anything positive for free thinking people.

TreasureBucks 08-22-2005 06:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerV
And they wonder why kids are getting in trouble cause they have nothing to do.

when will the gov. understand the youth needs something to enjoy
theres plenty of things to do....

like

homework...
house hold chores......
sunday school meetings......
church revivals.......
getting your ass shot up in a foriegn country....
baking cookies....
having a paper route....
get a job at local food processing plant...(you know the ones where everyone looks like a oompa loompa, with white jackets and hairnets)
go to college.... then spend the next 20 years paying off the student loans, while moving back into your parent house)
lock yourself in your house.... stay off the computer, dont watch violent tv, and read your bible everyday.

did i miss anything??

cambaby 08-22-2005 07:08 PM
I THINK YOU LIBERAL PEOPLE DEFENDING THESE RAVE FAGS NEED TO READ BETTER:

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.

TreasureBucks 08-22-2005 07:10 PM
by the way.... hint to the people throwing a party......

stop calling them "raves"


just saying that word implies one thing in everyones mind...even my own.

not everyone at a "rave" is on x, they are on an assortment of things... :)

And some arent on anything at all.

Any concert, club, or other music related event in america could probably produce the amount of drugs, if not more, if they flew helicopters over an outdoor music festival, for example.......

lets imagine they swoop in on a "clear channel" outdoor music theatre...

it wouldnt happen becuase "clear channel is a corp" and corporations run politics.....

but lets say they did....

they could probably find 10 times the amount of drugs they turned up in that utah raid.

TreasureBucks 08-22-2005 07:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cambaby
I THINK YOU LIBERAL PEOPLE DEFENDING THESE RAVE FAGS NEED TO READ BETTER:

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.

Hmm.... The rave party did that to her?????

Or did she do that to herself when she decided to injest it????

Where were her parents???? Maybe the parents should blame themselves a little for not knowing where their 17 year old daughter was, or not talking to her about drugs and having to found out about it, by experimenting with it , with her peers.

Im not defending Ravers..... clearly.... bad judgement for even going to the event that claims to be a "rave". Thats just stupidity.

Tat2Jr 08-22-2005 07:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cambaby
I THINK YOU LIBERAL PEOPLE DEFENDING THESE RAVE FAGS NEED TO READ BETTER:

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.
TWO WORDS:
Natural Selection.

Now I'm going to probably have to pay for her through welfare or foodstamps. Isn't it enough that my taxes went for her schooling? Obviously money well spent.

huey 08-22-2005 08:00 PM
Rave 101
Always have them on Indian land.

latinasojourn 08-22-2005 08:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Dane
Other side of the story:

"Utah County Sheriff's Office shuts down Rave Party in Spanish Fork Canyon.

During the summer of 2005 the Utah County Sheriff's Office has seen an increase in the number of large Rave parties that have occurred within Utah County. Approximately four weeks ago the Sheriff's Office became aware of another possible Rave party that was to occur somewhere in Utah County on August 20, 2005.

Tickets were sold through a Salt Lake vendor, Uprock, for $20.00. Tickets could be bought in advance and directions to the exact location of the Rave would be provided on the day of the event.

Utah County mass gathering ordinance prohibits the gathering of two hundred and fifty or more persons without a permit, bond, and Utah County Commission approval.

Research was conducted and no mass gathering permit had been obtained for this incident. However, a health department permit had been obtained and EMS personnel were contracted to be on scene for first aide.

From several previous experiences with Rave parties of this size, a large amount of drug use and underage consumption of alcohol occur. In addition reports of sexual assaults, overdoses, firearm violations, vehicle burglaries, and numerous individuals drive from the party under the influence of alcohol and or drugs.

Utah County Sheriff's Office Detectives interviewed several females that had attended a prior rave party in the Utah county area in the past month that had been sexual assaulted. These females stated that the combination of drugs and alcohol made them fear for their safety due to the groping and sexual assaults that occurred during the Rave party. In the last year alone one near fatal shooting was investigated by Utah County Sheriff's Office at a similar party.

Around noon on Saturday, August 20th, the Sheriff's office learned that the Rave Party was to take place in the Diamond Fork area located in Spanish Fork canyon at the Child's ranch. At that point it was again verified that the Utah County Commissioner's office had no knowledge of this nor had a permit been obtained.

Utah County Major Crimes was contacted to assist with undercover surveillance. Both local and state SWAT teams were called in to control the crowds ( Utah County Metro SWAT, Utah Department of Corrections out of Salt Lake and Gunnison, Department of Public Safety and their helicopter and Provo SWAT) approximately 90 law enforcement personnel combined.

At 9 pm the Rave party began and by 10 pm Major Crimes observed numerous illegal activities. Which included illegal use of drugs, distribution of drugs, and underage consumption of alcohol.

It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct.

A safety sweep was conducted after the crowd was ordered to disburse and numerous narcotic items were located scattered on the ground which included: cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol and large amounts of drug paraphernalia.

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.

Several local teenagers from Spanish Fork, Springville, Provo, and Payson were identified at the party by officers. As well as, numerous individuals out of the Salt Lake and Davis County area.

Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. Sexual assaults, rapes, overdoses, drugs, alcohol abuse, thefts, and firearms violations. The sale of drugs at these parties is so prevalent that at this particular Rave party drugs were offered to a local off duty emergency medical service personnel who were contracted to be there. In addition two security personnel hired by the promoter were arrested for possession of cocaine and ecstasy."

http://www.co.utah.ut.us/News/DeptNe...System=SHERIFF
yes, there always is 2 sides to a story.

the simple fact is that government exists to control unreasonable people---reasonable people don't need much governing.

the dope culture ain't cool, no matter how you package it. i'm an old man and have never seen a doper make it big later in life. maybe there is one, i've just never seen it. the shit starts with this sort of thing. sorry for the fuckin' truth.


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