brand0n

Sign up here

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killerkay

if thats real, god bless you

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killerkay

also you might of just convinced me, im not sure yet though

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SleazyDream

i love it when people post fake stats

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brand0n

500 bucks says they are real

put your fat purse where your fat mouth is

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StatsJunky

I thought they were paying $50 per join? Wish my stats were that good with them.

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SOADa

I dont see why anyone would lie about making $420.00 with EpicCash. LOL. 9 sales isn't impressive. Show me 40 to 100 and you've got my attention.

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p1mpdogg

/me turns up the shave..

thats fucked up

1:7?

wish these stats were not real, but they are.

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SleazyDream

there isn't enough info there to make a basis on anything not stating a sourse for the traffic means basiclly nothing in the numbers you post.

thus they are as good as fake numbers. pay up

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p1mpdogg

what did you just say?

LOL

you are such a moron scott.. for real.

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SOADa

1:7 is good.

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StatsJunky

Brand0n you crossed out you stats for name but posted your refferal link

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SleazyDream

you're right - posting stats without stating source proves without a doubt that your program is the best one on the net.


nothing wrong with that is there?


woops - sorry about that little thing called AN OUNCE OF FUCKING INTELLIGENCE

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frankfortuna

We send about 1200 joins a month to our internal product sites, but I'd like to start diversifying our revenue streams. I think it's feasible for us to send around 500 joins to a program, and I've been looking at cams or dating to fill this gap. Have you compared EpicCams against cams.com and iFriends by chance? I intend to perform some tests, but I wouldn't mind hearing from others.

p1mpdogg

what ever you say scot.

because the guy doesnt post his source of traffic it means he is lying?

lol wtf kind of logic is that you retard?

im verifying these stats are real.

I didnt ask this dude to post the stats, but i am verifying them since you are skeptical.

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reed_4

great conversion man, congrats.

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EviLGuY

$420 divided by 9 signups means you are getting paid $46.67 a signup? Okay then..

Interesting that the payout is "420" too. Somehow I am not buying this.

SleazyDream

it's skewing the picture dude - it isn't a real picture without all the real facts

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StatsJunky

I was thinking the same thing. But he might be doing their free join program and got 1 join @ $20 then the $50 started and he got 8 @ $50 for $420

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p1mpdogg

he was being paid 40 flat from a previous deal we had in place. it wasnt till the 2nd or 3rd sale when his acct was turned to 50 a sale when the promo began. he will be paid 450 not 420.

if you dont buy it then dont promote it

pretty simple.


his stats are real.

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SleazyDream

his source is hiden for a reason me thinks

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p1mpdogg

prolly chat spam or email who knows.. wtf do i care lol

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brand0n

its damn sure not tgp traffic.. thats a fucking given..

well scrubbed clicked link traffic from all over the place.

well before my traffic gets anywhere near a join page they are made aware of the fact that its going to cost to get into the cam site and that you must use a credit card.

truth in marketing. i admitt, i start with alot more traffic then ever hits the join pages, but by the time they get there, they are buyers.. as you can see for yourself.

btw.. you owe me 500 bucks

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brand0n

show me the light brother dog!

take me to the chat room that has 100 people in it and 1 out of 7 hold a credit card and are wanting to buy a cam membership

ill stalk that chat the rest of my life

same goes with emails.. i mean that would have to be the best of the best of the best email list ever made. i wouldnt email these people. i would drive to there house and bring my laptop and do a full presentation.

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brand0n

ofcourse.

heres my thoughts as far as the others go.

1st off ifriends has got a bad rap to surfers. stick up a poll on a free page and ask HAS IFRIENDS RIPPED YOU OFF. you would be amazed at the response. now by no mean am i saying ifriends or clickcash is scamming or ripping anyone off, but that seems to be the general thoughts from surfers. (and alot of webmasters, but thats another story)

cams.com wont work with me due to the 25 dollar joins they surfer has to buy for it to be considered a sale. sure, the pay out on that is decent, but it wont cover what i can do in trial joins. 1 dollar lifetime joins seems to work well with my traffic. not 2 much where they think that they are getting robbed.. and not free.

belive it or not, i tested epics free joins vs the pay joins and the pay joins do better with my traffic. i guess thats due to some other companys offering free joins then not providing them with what they expected with out an upsale.

and.. if you are going to sign up and send epic those 500 joins.. lol.. might as well click my link at the top

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will76

Well I can speak on behalf of how well you can do with Clickcash. I have been a clickcash (ifriends) affiliate for over 4 years. I send them about 500+ joins a week myself and they pay on time, every week. Never have had any problems. I also own www.teamclickcash.com which is a ClickCash resource site where i help people who use clickcash make more money by setting them up with the promos that work the best, getting all the ifriends content they need, I will review their sites and give suggestions on what has worked the best for me, and I also work with a bunch of chathost who can provide custom content if you need it. (plus a whole bunch more stuff).

BTW 500 FREE signups to clickcash in one week makes you $28,000 a week.

I would suggest you try them all out yourself and see what works the best for you. I can provide you with any promos that the other sites offer, co-branding, geo-targeted ads, etc. I can probably give you more one one one help then any company here.

But if you want the run down of the other 2 programs here it is. If you go with epic cams, Trey is likely to call your mother a whore and insult you if he doesn't like what you say. Now they do have a great resource site that helps people (www.teamepiccash.com) you have to check that out for yourself and then look at my site: www.teamclickcash.com let me know how they compare. (Trey copied my idea but that was about it lol). Cams.com is a good program but if you want to get paid per signup, the customer has to spend money, so they have to spend like $20 for you to make $50. ClickCash (with your volume of sales) you would make MORE then $50 per FREE signup. Which is much much easier to convert then making someone shell out $20, They also offer 20% of sales if you are looking for a long time return. Lars is a good guy and he has a good setup and staff. If I was making so much with clickcash /ifriends they would likely be my next choice.

ClickCash has it's haters, it is the best and biggest site out there and has a lot of idiots here who were terminated for spamming so they flame clickcash to get back at them.

BTW. when epiccash owners and reps chime in, remember they are owners and employees, so take what they say with a grain of salt. (they want your business so they will say anything ) I am just an affiliate for clickcash. You don't have to refer me when you signup, so you can take what I am saying as the truth. Now if you do want my help and you want to work together, then I would appreciate if you did signup through my site, www.teamclickcash.com . you still make your own clickcash account, I just help people make more money with clickcash. (and we don't insult anyone either).

I hope this has helped answer some of your questions.

will at teamclickcash dot com.

Thanks for your time and good luck.

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BIGTYMER

You're sure hitting them hard with traffic.

btw, nice ratio.

VIPimp

Contact me, I'll get you what you need to promote us and answer any questions you have.

We are paying $50 per free cam join till the end of the month, PLUS send 200 joins by sep 15th and we will send you a 42inch plasma tv.

Cory @ epiccash.com
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will76

also take note that "p1mpdogg" (what a stupid ass name) who is the owner of epiccams has not even replied to your post here. instead he has replied several times since your post to argue and insult another poster in this thread. just more proof of what I am saying. I know i wouldn't feel comfortable working with someone who acts that way. Do a search for yourself. If you want to consider sending 500 joins to a company I would do a search on the owner, search for p1mpdogg and threads he has started... stand up guy lol.

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VIPimp

That's because I replied to him and I am contacting him via icq now... so get lost.

frankfortuna

Thanks for the anaysis, I appreciate it. If we do go the cam route, which is likely, I will be sure to use your ref code. If and when I do, I'll advise you in advance. Since we buy most of our traffic, ie. it is not organic SEO traffic, it will probably take us 3-5 months to build up to that level as we would reinvest month to month revenues into growth.

frankfortuna

Will, I appreciate your input and have no doubt that you know the cam business very well. I have no beef with p1mpdogg, actually, I passed up a great opportunity with him years ago that I regret to this day.

I will test iFriends and EpicCams and let you know how it goes. Thanks again.

VIPimp

Try both and see which works the best for you... feel free to let me know if you need anything.

will76

you need to get a clue man, I know you are a hater of ifriends / clickcash so i know this wont change you mind, but posting it for the benefit of others reading this.

I sent ifriends over 18,000 joins last year. I doubt I make up more then 5% of their traffic. so multiple that times 20, which is 360,000 customers last year alone (probably a lot more then that) . Find me one company online that doesn't have a few people upset with it that has that many customers. MILLIONS of people have signed up to ifriends over the years.

You can't make everyone happy and when you are the biggest you are going to get some complaints doesnt matter what company it is.

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slapass

You have to go with Will on this one. Long term it is very hard to beat clickcash. Short term imlive.com has a cool contest going to so I would test them first and right now.

fuzebox

brand0n, why the need to scrub your traffic so hard? Sure you can boast sponsor conversion ratios of 1:10, but that's really a useless number. You don't think if you were more general and sent more eyes to the cam sites that you'd get an extra couple of sales out of your surfers?

NTSS

57 uniques $420...ok yeah...sure

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fuzebox

Did you read the thread? It's 57 qualified join page hits. Surfers know they will need a credit card before they ever see a join page... I'm surprised the ratio is as high as 1:7, must be processor scrub

will76

Frank if you are going to do a test let me help you. Even if you don't want to refer me. (not that I doubt your knowledge, it just sounded from your post that you wanted to try webcams for the first time.) I would hate to see you try clickcash and not set it up the best way, get bad results and think epiccams is better. So even if you don't want to refer me I will still help you. Hit me up on icq if you have it: 86364801.

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will76

I know i would be more impressed with a ratio if 1:200 from 20,000 hits then 1:10 from from 100 hits. (especially from a 1 week period)

If your traffic can only yeild a few hits it is never going to make you a lot of money no matter who you send it to or how well they convert, those stats don't prove anythign except that you need more traffic.

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frankfortuna

You are correct, cams, dating, and the like would be new to me. We advertise on every large adult site under the sun practically, but I've never sent a single click to another program except for Ox and Nasty Dollars years ago. I am about to hit the sack, but time allowing, I will hit you up tomorrow from the office. Thanks again.

frankfortuna

Btw, Brand0n, I didn't intend to jack your thread.

will76

Sounds good. I buy a good bit of traffic as well, and I help big sites get setup with clickcash, So I can help you many ways.

nice talking to you.

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Doctor Dre

Telling Justsexxx he posted without source is the same thing you just stated here ...

Actually if I was converting 1:7, I wouldn't give away my secrets

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Varius

Just a comment, Brandon, about sometimes people qualify their traffic too much.

For example, you might have a 1:6.33 ratio there, but it's always possible you could make more by getting more of your traffic over there

For example, let's say you send 10x the hits by qualifying it only slightly or not at all. Let's say that did 1:50.

57 uniques at 1:6.33 = 9 sales
570 uniques at 1:50 = 11 sales

So incase you haven't, you should try both methods

I often see some of our own affiliates who realize they make more by filtering less....that's of course when the scale for your payout doesn't work on the conversion ratio.

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Varius

Err seems I just kinda repeated what some people above me said....I really should read threads the whole way through before replying

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p1mpdogg

bump for will76

he hates to see me win

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JD

MakingCoin can solve that problem

SleazyDream

still not an answer - where's my $500?

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