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Metis · 08-21-2005, 10:16 AM

Hi everyone, I am new to that board.
trying to figure out why google traffic doesnt convert at all for my sponsors, was trying different words, texts, sponsors. No results, ratio is more than 1:1000 . Using google , directly from google to sponsor, no results.

And have another question, Does the processor (paycom or other) really make the difference for the sales ?

sean416 · 08-21-2005, 10:30 AM

SEO traffic is organic se traffic. SEO = search engine optimization. What you're talking about is PPC = Pay Per Click

Lots of things can affect your PPC campaign. The easiest way to ensure your campaign will be profitable is by chosing the right keywords (advertising a teen site on teen keywords for example and not a mature site with teen keywords). Secondly, the ad itself, you need to make sure that it is accurate so you're not paying for clicks by people who aren't interested in what you're pushing.

There are a lot of articles about how to make a good PPC campaign with lots of tips. Without actually telling us which site you are promoting, what keywords you are targetting and your ad copy, there isn't much else anybody can offer you in terms of advice.

StatsJunky · 08-21-2005, 10:33 AM

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polish_aristocrat · 08-21-2005, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by sean416

What you're talking about is PPC

what makes you think so?

sean416 · 08-21-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat

what makes you think so?

Hmmm, now that you mention it, I'm not so sure. When I read

"was trying different words, texts, sponsors. No results, ratio is more than 1:1000 . Using google , directly from google to sponsor, no results."

That sounded like PPC to me, but now I realize that was an assumption on my part. Sorry if I confused your thread, Metis.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 10:47 AM

Hey Sean,
All my keywords and ad in google are totally describe the sponsor, I am not using any free keywords or anything like that. I cant understand why none of the combinations are not working.
For Ex. If you would promote teens, You would use any keywords like teen sex, and all keyword which reklevant to teens, same as ad , it would be something like "Hot Teens, 1000+ of videos" for ex. , but still no results, only one sale for more than 1000 hits from Ad Google. What I am thinking right now, maybe I should use some Doorway which will do people more specific.
What you think ? What was you experience with google ?

Rockhound · 08-21-2005, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by StatsJunky

Read this and order his course. He does regular updates for members.

http://www.perrymarshall.com/google/

Thanks for this link , I signed up

Hinc · 08-21-2005, 11:01 AM

Did anyone purchase that perry marshall course? Worth it?

chaze · 08-21-2005, 11:06 AM

Sometimes what they read right from google or ppc makes a differance in converting.

Just like tgp galleries, having something that says what they will have to pay right from the start will get them to convert better.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 11:25 AM

Hi Chaze,
I understand for you mean, but how specific it has to be ? Does it has to say the price ?

chaze · 08-21-2005, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Metis

Hi Chaze,
I understand for you mean, but how specific it has to be ? Does it has to say the price ?

Exactly, that's the main thing.

You should get less clicks but better conversions.

A big mistake is just trying to get traffic, if you show the price then they will have the option in the back of their mind while viewing the site to sign up. otherwise it would be an impulse buy and those are very hard to come by.

I was told this by a great source I think tommysbookmarks years ago and when I changed to this my conversions drastically went up.

We use this idea for our hosting marketing as well, always list the price.

Morgan · 08-21-2005, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chaze

Exactly, that's the main thing.

You should get less clicks but better conversions.

A big mistake is just trying to get traffic, if you show the price then they will have the option in the back of their mind while viewing the site to sign up. otherwise it would be an impulse buy and those are very hard to come by.

I was told this by a great source I think tommysbookmarks years ago and when I changed to this my conversions drastically went up.

We use this idea for our hosting marketing as well, always list the price.

I would just get the clicks first, then show them what to buy and a free option.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 11:42 AM

Chaze, What about Sundays, It looks like everybody die on sunday, number of clicks from google almost nothing, Is that every sunday like that ?
There is no changes in google, everything still the same.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 11:44 AM

Ganjasaurus ,
Thats a good idea, but what kind of free option it could be ?
wasting of money from google for at least 0.1 per click for a free option, free option has to be really performance. Isnt it ?

adonthenet · 08-21-2005, 11:47 AM

Metis I have some nice exp. I can tell you that dont EVER use the word "free" in your ads... thats rule #1 ;=)

StatsJunky · 08-21-2005, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockhound

Thanks for this link , I signed up

NP. I should have got a refferal link first... But he has helped me when using adwords in a big way.

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</spam>

CyberMax · 08-21-2005, 11:49 AM

there is no money in SEO

Metis · 08-21-2005, 11:50 AM

Adonthenet ,
Maybe you could some advice how to configurate google, I dont ask you to help me get 100 of sales, I just want to understand why my ratio is so high and I dont even use any free keywords.

chaze · 08-21-2005, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by adonthenet

Metis I have some nice exp. I can tell you that dont EVER use the word "free" in your ads... thats rule #1 ;=)

Def, this is so true.

As for a free option, they will not most likly book mark your site. But you can get a stats program to see if they do or not if you want to test it.

So if you do do a free option on your main page, try to convert with every free pic or movie you give.

If you don't close on that visit you are not liky to make the sale.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 11:57 AM

Why I would try to convert "free" click to a sale, if they looking for free stuff ?

chaze · 08-21-2005, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metis

Why I would try to convert "free" click to a sale, if they looking for free stuff ?

Sundays are slower, just like summers are slower. Same with hosting. less people are online.

Friday and Saturday nights should be your biggest nights.

Free stuff is like a popup your just hoping you might get something out of them in the last chance.

The focus should be giving them what they want.

there is allot of free surfers but there is also people willing to pay on a dime for the right site.

I know guys that sign up to a new site almost every week. And he only uses certain billing processors. maybe keep that in mind.

I just see allot as a host and do some marketing for customers.

The best sites are the ones that use a popular billing processor and are unique.

Metis · 08-21-2005, 01:26 PM

Chaze you really clear some things out there, thank you so much.
But what kind of processors its better to use or which ones most populars ?

08-21-2005, 10:30 AM	#2
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08-21-2005, 10:16 AM	#1
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	SEO Traffic Hi everyone, I am new to that board. trying to figure out why google traffic doesnt convert at all for my sponsors, was trying different words, texts, sponsors. No results, ratio is more than 1:1000 . Using google , directly from google to sponsor, no results. And have another question, Does the processor (paycom or other) really make the difference for the sales ?

08-21-2005, 10:47 AM	#6
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Hey Sean, All my keywords and ad in google are totally describe the sponsor, I am not using any free keywords or anything like that. I cant understand why none of the combinations are not working. For Ex. If you would promote teens, You would use any keywords like teen sex, and all keyword which reklevant to teens, same as ad , it would be something like "Hot Teens, 1000+ of videos" for ex. , but still no results, only one sale for more than 1000 hits from Ad Google. What I am thinking right now, maybe I should use some Doorway which will do people more specific. What you think ? What was you experience with google ?

08-21-2005, 11:06 AM	#9
chaze Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 9,752	Sometimes what they read right from google or ppc makes a differance in converting. Just like tgp galleries, having something that says what they will have to pay right from the start will get them to convert better.

08-21-2005, 11:25 AM	#10
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Hi Chaze, I understand for you mean, but how specific it has to be ? Does it has to say the price ?

08-21-2005, 11:42 AM	#13
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Chaze, What about Sundays, It looks like everybody die on sunday, number of clicks from google almost nothing, Is that every sunday like that ? There is no changes in google, everything still the same.

08-21-2005, 11:44 AM	#14
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Ganjasaurus , Thats a good idea, but what kind of free option it could be ? wasting of money from google for at least 0.1 per click for a free option, free option has to be really performance. Isnt it ?

08-21-2005, 11:47 AM	#15
adonthenet Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,753	Metis I have some nice exp. I can tell you that dont EVER use the word "free" in your ads... thats rule #1 ;=)

08-21-2005, 11:49 AM	#17
CyberMax Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 421	there is no money in SEO

08-21-2005, 11:50 AM	#18
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Adonthenet , Maybe you could some advice how to configurate google, I dont ask you to help me get 100 of sales, I just want to understand why my ratio is so high and I dont even use any free keywords.

08-21-2005, 11:57 AM	#20
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Why I would try to convert "free" click to a sale, if they looking for free stuff ?

08-21-2005, 01:26 PM	#22
Metis Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 9	Chaze you really clear some things out there, thank you so much. But what kind of processors its better to use or which ones most populars ?