When she is talking to potentional clients in hopes of taking food off my table, its an issues. Im sure it would be the same for you.

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all this threads are doing for me is thinking more and more S_M is in fact perfection jeff, same self destructive style threads as jeff did back in the day :Oh crap

i really do want to believe sm isn't jeff, can you just post a pic and finish all the bullshit? come on are you that ugly? :1orglaugh

Ive seen your girls... you get what you pay for a guess.

Ive sent you my pricing break down a couple times. But yeah.. min 100 sets of 100 plus images and 8 hours of video. One, totally exclusive site.

As for the "male stripper" thing. Sure, whatever makes you feel good about your life. Personally, I would nver tell a sole if I had to strip to make a buck as a man.

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Are you really this fucking stupid????????? Jeez...I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, when people where icqing me saying it's Jeff! Ohhh, but, hey......I'm a woman, so I must be stupid! Prove me wrong asshole.....show your face in Amsterdam, or shut the fuck up! Oh...but, no one knows you... :1orglaugh, ask just about anyone, you'll find me! I don't hide, I don't need too! :winkwink:

You are refering to 69gs.com right?

if so, thanks, appreciate that comment. :thumbsup

You lost that right when you agreed to the deal we made. I didnt offer it, you did (see posted time line). All I ask is that you follow through with your agreement with me as I did with you. No biggie.

Sure if i go, I will look you up. Make sure you wear yellow though. I dont think I will be able to find you unless you are covered in it, head to toe.


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Yep! I love that new black girl you have. Awesome!! If I could find one that hot I would build I site around her myself.


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Yes, Promise is amazing! She's been selling great too. :thumbsup

Not at all a surpize!


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Nice try asshole!!!!!!!!! And how would shooting_manic now this????? hmmm??? Step in it a little bit more asshole! :321GFY Like I said, I don't have to hide...I'll be easy to find! :) How about you??? Will you be easy to find???

Nice chat on ICQ. Look fowarding with talking to you soon. :) Have a great night man.

That sucks... let the hater talk... blah blah blah...

A HA!!!! Got ya woj!!!! :1orglaugh

I can't say I have been in the boat you are in before, But then again I don't give people a reason to make trouble for me. When I have a debt I pay it when I am suposed to. And if you didn't owe FA the money why did you pay her? FA didnt make you look guilty you did.? You could of proved that you weren't jeff by sending her a photo or posting it on the board for everyone to see to prove your self. But for some reason you have something to hide. You shoot content right? So take your camra and take a pic of your self and post it. If not you are just showing everyone you have something to hide.

Bella-Seaira

I'm really sorry you feel this way! I have not started this stupid fight! But if he wants to play.....I'm game! And bottom line is, I don't want others fucked over! That's why when asked, over and over again if it was Jeff..I couldn't say no, without some sort of proof. He couldn't provide it, or a picture even (photographer without a picture..hmm??) Maybe you should look at old threads about the scum perfection jeff... if not, I'll be in Amsterdam, very easy to find, will he?? hmmm?? no way in hell! :2 cents:

Just honor your agreement Lori. Thats all I ask. I did exactly what I said I would do for you and you have not even come close to doing the same for me.

I took you at your word and paid you $400.00 so you would drop this bs and yet, day after day, icq message after icq message you keep it going. You gave me your word you would drop it. Not, if you post a pic I will drop it a "pay me that 400l.00 and I will drop it". You havent. Says a ton about the type of person you are. I have proof of my claims you lied to me and took my money on a good faith deal. Do you have any proof of yoru claims, after two weeks of saying that you do? No! So, let it go.

All I know is that I helped you out and you continuted to fuck me after we had an agreement.

I see your true colors, shinning through.....

I can't post in any other sm/pf related threads from now on, it can be misunderstood as a conflict of interest since i happen to produce content now, it wasn't the case when jeff stole my rebills. just wanted to clear that out.

:1orglaugh Let me send the money back to you Jeff! You really are an idiot! Want me to mention who's party it was.....don't think so asshole!!!! I'm trying to show a little respect for them but, keep it up...I'll tell it all! You are on ignore on my icq, so you can take your threats and shove them up your ass!!!!!!! :321GFY

Please post the "threats" and I have not icqed you in hours. Those "threats" had better match my icq logs also Lori.

You post or tell whatever you like. And no, keep the money. I didnt send it to be a marter, I send it to do a good deed and to help you out, per our documented request. We made an agreement and now that you have broken it you think its just ok to send it back. Whatever.

I really am sorry I spent time trying to help you and work you through this.

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You are such an ass, I don't even know what to say to you! :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh Good luck with that Lace!

just be happy this person didnt charge you interest, jeff.

:1orglaugh I'm guessing by this time, he's been told to shut the fuck up! :2 cents: Not that I know anyone or anything :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh What an ass! :2 cents:

talk about "going wrong"

shit...I really do think both of you could sort this out like adults tho.......

Hi JEFF 8chars

I feel like I'm reading about 2 people who once were in love or were in cahoots spill their life into my lap.

What happened? Did something go sour? Keep your shit in ICQ. ACTION people. Too much of this bitching gets NOWHERE.

Fuck! I let this die.....but damn, that is THE most discusting thing I've ever read! Do a little research! I don't want others fucked over....if he wants to come back as someone else great, good for him....but, start to fuck over others again.....not cool! :2 cents: And if I shut up......I couldn't live with myself! Otherwise, I wouldn't give a shit what this prick does!

Oh...forgot to ask. Who the fuck are you SOADa???? At least if your going to make me sick to my stomach, tell me who you are, what you do!

You sir are a liar.

I know what this business is about better than most and to say you take $80K worth of business in a week is a lie.

Also how can you claim a model is 100% exclusive? You have no control over what a model will do the day after she finishes working for you. She could join Jim South and be shot to death in a month and you have no control.

Don't sit there and call me names, prove it.

The one thing that amazes me about SM is the BS he claims over and over again.

I had a chat with him on ICQ, using another name, and he told me what he delivers for $20K, 100 image sets and 50 videos of one girl he uses once only. So how does he produce the content, because that is a lot of work and a lot of girls. Unfortunately I think I lost the ICQ message, but if he denies it I will hit him up again and get him to repeat it or cripple his business.

What surprises me about this whole business is the lack of support for a man who claims to do so well. With all these clients it seems strange no one wants to jump in and put out the fire by standing up for SM. I can understand no one wanting to get involved flaming in a slanging match, but ending it with support would impress a lot of webmasters.

However there is little heard from people who have been ripped off and for a person who claims to do so much business this is also strange. I personally suspect SM is full of shit and does very little business. Let's face it the number of people who will spend $200 on a model are not plentiful on GFY, $20K would be a lot harder to find.

very true... also people who do $20k deals don't need to go around announcing they just got 4 new clients this week etc.. He sure doesn't act like someone who is this big. I could be wrong though but something doesnt smell right to me. :2 cents:

I have never seen a pic of jeff before but if one eixsts than why not post a pic of yourself and clear this up once and for all? IF you truly were being falsely accused of being this person who did all these horrible things you would think you would want to clear this up asap? Most people would.

Also the motive of this post is questionable.... so is paying a debt that isnt yours just because of principal etc... not much adds up here TO ME... :2 cents: