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Old 08-18-2005, 10:32 PM   #1
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If you smoked in Amsterdam...

...then came home and failed a UA for Children's services...could you get in trouble? It was legal where you did it.....and it would stay in your system for up to 30 days.

Just curious. I don't smoke anymore because I'm too scared I'd lose my babies if someone ratted on me. So the question occurred to me when I saw all the Amsterdam threads, lol.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:33 PM   #2
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I highly doubt they will accept Amsterdam as a get out of jail free card
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:33 PM   #3
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i dont care about drug tests anymore. guess thats what happens when your running your own show...
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:34 PM   #4
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BTW, was it you who needed divorce help for their mom or something?
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:35 PM   #5
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Doubt the location would have any bearing on that.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:36 PM   #6
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You can actually get drug tested and kids taken away for failing?

My god if thats true they need to start doing that all over the fucking united states, fucking meth heads and shit with kids is insane.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:36 PM   #7
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BTW, was it you who needed divorce help for their mom or something?
Yup. Her house is safe, it's a non-marital asset under Florida law. Her retirement money could be split, but he's got annuities worth roughly the same amount that would also be split, so it's likely they'll both just keep their own crap.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:38 PM   #8
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:39 PM   #9
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You can actually get drug tested and kids taken away for failing?

My god if thats true they need to start doing that all over the fucking united states, fucking meth heads and shit with kids is insane.
Yep but I think you would have to have had a prior conviction for it to affect you. I know the big thing here in KY now is that anyone convicted of drug posession, even a little bit of pot signs aways any constitutional rights to search and seizure, and is also subject to a piss or blood test at any time. Thats if they get probation, which most offenders do on misdemanenor charges. I say fuck that. Ill serve my 10 days or what the fuck ever if im ever caught.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:39 PM   #10
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You can actually get drug tested and kids taken away for failing?

My god if thats true they need to start doing that all over the fucking united states, fucking meth heads and shit with kids is insane.
Hell yeah.
I used to smoke and someone called in a false report that I was dealing (likely my husband's ex-wife) and when my husband failed his UA (for some reason I always pass them, even when I have smoked...it's happened for job UAs before, too) they ordered him to go to drug counseling, NA, and not to be alone with the children, and to submit to random testing, which if he failed again, either he would have had to move out, or we would have lost the kids.

Needless to say I don't smoke anymore.
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:41 PM   #11
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Hell yeah.
I used to smoke and someone called in a false report that I was dealing (likely my husband's ex-wife) and when my husband failed his UA (for some reason I always pass them, even when I have smoked...it's happened for job UAs before, too) they ordered him to go to drug counseling, NA, and not to be alone with the children, and to submit to random testing, which if he failed again, either he would have had to move out, or we would have lost the kids.

Needless to say I don't smoke anymore.
Land of the free and all ...
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:46 PM   #12
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Hell yeah.
I used to smoke and someone called in a false report that I was dealing (likely my husband's ex-wife) and when my husband failed his UA (for some reason I always pass them, even when I have smoked...it's happened for job UAs before, too) they ordered him to go to drug counseling, NA, and not to be alone with the children, and to submit to random testing, which if he failed again, either he would have had to move out, or we would have lost the kids.

Needless to say I don't smoke anymore.
Wow amazing, I'm going to have to start trying to vigilanty my neighborhood then, Fuck.. Time to find some numbers to call about some god damn crack heads with kids around here.. Live in a mother fucking 200k house and live like you in the fucking projects..
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Old 08-18-2005, 10:50 PM   #13
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Land of the free and all ...
I have an 11yo that I would like to be able to teach not to smoke without being a hypocrite, so I don't mind all that much.

BUT...

It does boggle my mind that pot is illegal for parents to partake (not AROUND the kids of course, that is wrong, no doubt) while parents who get sloppy drunk in front of their kids all the time are not doing anything illegal. I've never heard a story about a parent getting so stoned that they beat their wife or child up. They'd be far too lazy to get up even if they did get that mad. *grin*
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Old 08-18-2005, 11:49 PM   #14
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I have an 11yo that I would like to be able to teach not to smoke without being a hypocrite, so I don't mind all that much.

BUT...

It does boggle my mind that pot is illegal for parents to partake (not AROUND the kids of course, that is wrong, no doubt) while parents who get sloppy drunk in front of their kids all the time are not doing anything illegal. I've never heard a story about a parent getting so stoned that they beat their wife or child up. They'd be far too lazy to get up even if they did get that mad. *grin*
Too right, the world is a mad hypocritical place.

Here's what I found out:

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The length of time that drugs remain in your body varies according to a lot of factors. However, on average, cannabis will be detected for up to about 36 hours.

Some of the factors which can vary these figures include:

The purity
How much you have
How you have it
How often you have them
What other drugs you have
Your mood and environment
Your tolerance to the drugs
Your sex and age
Your general health & well-being
Your general metabolic state
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:09 AM   #15
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Advice for those going to Amsterdam : Bring your own rizla... the variety over there doesn't go out when you put it down.. It just burns away.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:10 AM   #16
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I have an 11yo that I would like to be able to teach not to smoke without being a hypocrite, so I don't mind all that much.

BUT...

It does boggle my mind that pot is illegal for parents to partake (not AROUND the kids of course, that is wrong, no doubt) while parents who get sloppy drunk in front of their kids all the time are not doing anything illegal. I've never heard a story about a parent getting so stoned that they beat their wife or child up. They'd be far too lazy to get up even if they did get that mad. *grin*
sometimes the greatest threat to children are thir own parents.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:26 AM   #17
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Being high is not illegal in the U.S. You can walk up to any police officer and say your stoned out fo your mind because you just smoked five joints.

Though if your in a battle for your childs custody, I could see a positive piss test being a contributing factor to you loosing your child.

Either way though, unless you are on a court order which you cannot use drugs of any kind and must take drug tests. You cannot be summoned to take one. It's against your 4th amendment right. Police cannot just go up to someone and force them to take a piss test without cause.
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:48 AM   #18
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:49 AM   #19
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Old 08-19-2005, 01:58 AM   #20
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...then came home and failed a UA for Children's services...could you get in trouble? It was legal where you did it.....and it would stay in your system for up to 30 days.

Just curious. I don't smoke anymore because I'm too scared I'd lose my babies if someone ratted on me. So the question occurred to me when I saw all the Amsterdam threads, lol.

if you knew anything about USA laws you are required to follow our laws where ever you travel.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:51 AM   #21
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if you knew anything about USA laws you are required to follow our laws where ever you travel.
I didn't know, that's why I asked. Duh. The only time I've ever been out of the country is to Canada when I was a child, and the Bahamas on a cruise last year.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:53 AM   #22
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Being high is not illegal in the U.S. You can walk up to any police officer and say your stoned out fo your mind because you just smoked five joints.

Though if your in a battle for your childs custody, I could see a positive piss test being a contributing factor to you loosing your child.

Either way though, unless you are on a court order which you cannot use drugs of any kind and must take drug tests. You cannot be summoned to take one. It's against your 4th amendment right. Police cannot just go up to someone and force them to take a piss test without cause.
If you are under investigation by children's services they can compell you to take a test. I don't know what would happen if you refused...it wasn't worth the risk to my family to find out.
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