New Ibill CC Pages - Can You Believe it! - GoFuckYourself.com

Shoplifter · 02-09-2002, 12:24 AM

If you are an Ibill merchant look at your new hellopages. They now have a $1 default donation to:

I agree to a One Time Tax Deductible $1 Donation to The International Center for Missing and Exploited Children.
The charge on your Credit card Statement will appear as WebPldg.org.

This makes a "think twice moment" for any potential subscriber
filling out the form.

I just simply cannot believe what is up with Ibill...This is totally mickey mouse. And When I call them in a minute I am sure I will get the"So you don't like children comment"

Is there a code for a different hello page without the donation?

[Labret] · 02-09-2002, 12:41 AM

ahahaah that donation shit is absurd.

Roberto · 02-09-2002, 12:42 AM

so you don't like children?

TaDoW · 02-09-2002, 12:42 AM

that's absolutely fucking retarded, I can't believe they'd do that! I mean.. the donation thing is cool, but you're right about the think twice moment ... that could cost a ton of sales

TaDoW · 02-09-2002, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
so you don't like children?

does anybody?

Plugger · 02-09-2002, 12:45 AM

What I find ironic about this is that we all here bitching about chargebacks, right? So now someone joins a site for a $3.95 trial and then they find a additional dollar was billed, think they are going to get pissed?

At the very least the default should be UNCHECKED! If someone wants to donate they can read all of the text and check the box, but most people join an adult site have one hand on their dick and do not read everything that closely.

We have enough problems to deal with, we should have to worry about our billing companies adding to them . . .

Shoplifter · 02-09-2002, 12:52 AM

Yah it is a chargeback waiting to happen. I called them about it and they are saying to email in to be excluded.

This must be some sort of half assed tax dodge or scam. I can't really fathom the rationale.

[Labret] · 02-09-2002, 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
so you don't like children?

Would rather have lukemia.

I would donate a dollar for forced sterilization.

Roberto · 02-09-2002, 12:57 AM

soooo... what if it encourages them to sign up? so they clean their "dirty" concience about joining a pornsite but at the same time they're doing a donation...

Roberto · 02-09-2002, 02:09 AM

gotcha!

boneprone · 02-09-2002, 02:19 AM

Another LIE!

That money is actually to help hire a real fucking programer for their shit.

$1.00 from everyone should help them get guy out of Turkey and into thier offices for slave labor quite soon.

Mark the Pithy · 02-09-2002, 02:21 AM

I wonder how much iBull profits? Tax right-offs and all...

Didn't the right-wing try this shit awhile ago? That psuedo-gov agency is actually just an anti-porn group.

Somebody host/post the Tenacious D "Fuck the Kids" mp3 here.

And fuck you Ludedude and your reply to my post. LoL.

Nedder · 02-09-2002, 02:29 AM

that is insane

Nz

BrettJ · 02-09-2002, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Roberto
so you don't like children?

no way.

- - - back to ibill - - -

I just checked it out...

some people are right... it might have a pause moment...

but the word donate is pretty easy to see... most people will read that much and uncheck...and a good chunk of the people will uncheck the box out of habit....

a few people will get scammed...and may charge back...

especially since it'll show up as something different than ibill... so they'll have two chargees on the same day for 1 porn purchase...

may think that it is us shady pornograhers charing their cards for fun

Oliver Klozov · 02-09-2002, 03:40 AM

Why is IBILL spending time with this sort of thing when there are so many other problems?

I have no problem with donations to needy organizations but these guys have much bigger fish to fry!

RevShare information and CMI Total Revenue has not worked for over a month now! Would it not be better to put their efforts into fixing the current problems before moving on to this sort of thing?

Who is running the show over there?

pr0view · 02-09-2002, 04:34 AM

yeah, great... what's tomorrow? a 99.99 donation for the recovery of afghanistan?

Pete · 02-09-2002, 04:41 AM

I've already moved to ccbill....Ibill has pissed me off too many times

Theo · 02-09-2002, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oliver Klozov
Why is IBILL spending time with this sort of thing when there are so many other problems?

I have no problem with donations to needy organizations but these guys have much bigger fish to fry!

RevShare information and CMI Total Revenue has not worked for over a month now! Would it not be better to put their efforts into fixing the current problems before moving on to this sort of thing?

Who is running the show over there?

very true Oliver, now they remembered to put donations while nothing is working? It's a bad joke...

Blondy · 02-09-2002, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Labret]

Would rather have lukemia.

I would donate a dollar for forced sterilization.

strong statement dude

Shoplifter · 02-09-2002, 02:25 PM

Are there any potential positives to this? Will this make a transaction harder to charge-back (lol)? If there is a donation can it somehow be classed differently for scrubbing?

Oliver Klozov · 02-09-2002, 02:37 PM

If there was any potential positives to this do you really think IBILL would tell us?

Lets face it PR is not something IBILL has a clue about.

These guys could fuck up a wet dream!

IBILL by default has raisied the price to join a site by $1 without anyones permission. Now they are telling me that each account has to be reviewed before they will remove this option. What the fuck does that mean?

As if sign ups weren't hard enough to get, IBILL goes and starts raising prices!

Fuck IBILL!!

Plugger · 02-09-2002, 03:10 PM

perhaps Ibill in some sort of wierd way is trying to get out of the adult billing business? Is this donation only on adult billing pages?

Fletch XXX · 02-09-2002, 03:16 PM

Last thing you need a man thinking about as he is pulling out his wallet is children and donations. I dont use ibill but it sucks anyway.

jimmyf · 02-09-2002, 03:39 PM

Good Ideal if ibill matches the $ 1.00, I believe that's the way most company's do it, at least that's what we learned were and when I were to school.

Heavy Boner · 02-09-2002, 03:45 PM

Guys, Let's think about this. It's obvious that the federal government and Visa is cracking down on the industry. So, one billing company takes a proactive stance and will be sending money to Hillary Clinton's ( ... and she is a Senator ) favorite charity, fighting child pornography and taking some pressure off of us. I'm a webmaster and I have received no fall out other then longer time reading me advertising. Look at your stats and stop complaining. Be glad that aleast somebody is paying attention to what's going on.

sincerly, making money, Heavy Boner

eroswebmaster · 02-09-2002, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mark the Pithy
That psuedo-gov agency is actually just an anti-porn group.
.

Man you've brought this up a couple of times now.

That nmco.org is not who you are thinking of.

You're thinking of the National Center For Missing And Exploited Children.
Their website is http://www.missingkids.com

And then there is the International Center For Missing And Exploited Children.
Their website is http://icmec.missingkids.com/

Whoever this group The Nation's Missing Children Organization & Center For Missing Adults is beyond me...sounds like someone's idea for a charity scam.

eros

NETbilling · 02-09-2002, 04:42 PM

Amazing....

Mitch

Snake · 02-09-2002, 08:29 PM

And who is Webplg.org? Well......

Domain Name: webpldg.org

Administrative Contact, Technical Contact:
Internet Billing Company, Ltd. (PVCYGIQXPO) [email protected]
Internet Billing Company, Ltd.
5701 Pine Island Rd.
Tamarac, FL 33321
US
954-718-3000 fax: 954-724-2801
Billing Contact:
Internet Billing Company, Ltd. (OCFTDNCNLO) [email protected]
Internet Billing Company, Ltd.
5701 Pine Island Rd. Ste 240
Tamarac, FL 33321
US
954-718-3000 fax: 954-718-3000

Record last updated on 01-Feb-2002.
Record expires on 01-Feb-2004.
Record created on 01-Feb-2002.
Database last updated on 9-Feb-2002 10:33:00 EST.

Domain servers in listed order:

NS05.IBILL.COM 12.8.9.48
NS07.IBILL.COM 12.8.9.50

Interesting concept considering I continue to get "batch" refunds and revokes, not to mention the missing sign ups.

Maybe I should start one of these "organizations".

Mark the Pithy · 02-10-2002, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Man you've brought this up a couple of times now.

That nmco.org is not who you are thinking of.

You're thinking of the National Center For Missing And Exploited Children.
Their website is http://www.missingkids.com

And then there is the International Center For Missing And Exploited Children.
Their website is http://icmec.missingkids.com/

Whoever this group The Nation's Missing Children Organization & Center For Missing Adults is beyond me...sounds like someone's idea for a charity scam.

eros

Hmmm... people might be more likely to donate if they are making the same mistake I did. Probably why they are using such a similiar name.

waste · 02-10-2002, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by netbilling
Amazing....

Mitch

lol did you actually have something to say or did you just want your company's name on here?

NETbilling · 02-10-2002, 01:26 PM

My company actually has an ad. up on this site so that was not the case. I did not want to say anything negative this time about our competition so..... Amazing.

Mitch

02-09-2002, 12:24 AM	#1
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	New Ibill CC Pages - Can You Believe it! If you are an Ibill merchant look at your new hellopages. They now have a $1 default donation to: I agree to a One Time Tax Deductible $1 Donation to The International Center for Missing and Exploited Children. The charge on your Credit card Statement will appear as WebPldg.org. This makes a "think twice moment" for any potential subscriber filling out the form. I just simply cannot believe what is up with Ibill...This is totally mickey mouse. And When I call them in a minute I am sure I will get the"So you don't like children comment" Is there a code for a different hello page without the donation?

02-09-2002, 12:42 AM	#4
TaDoW Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Where It Rains Posts: 3,875	that's absolutely fucking retarded, I can't believe they'd do that! I mean.. the donation thing is cool, but you're right about the think twice moment ... that could cost a ton of sales __________________ -TaDoW I've Upped My Standards, Up Yours!

02-09-2002, 02:09 AM	#10
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	gotcha! Last edited by Roberto; 02-09-2002 at 02:16 AM..

02-09-2002, 02:19 AM	#11
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Another LIE! That money is actually to help hire a real fucking programer for their shit. $1.00 from everyone should help them get guy out of Turkey and into thier offices for slave labor quite soon. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

02-09-2002, 03:40 AM	#15
Oliver Klozov Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Diego, Ca. USA Posts: 629	Why is IBILL spending time with this sort of thing when there are so many other problems? I have no problem with donations to needy organizations but these guys have much bigger fish to fry! RevShare information and CMI Total Revenue has not worked for over a month now! Would it not be better to put their efforts into fixing the current problems before moving on to this sort of thing? Who is running the show over there? __________________ Babe-Bucks.com ICQ 895-80-702 oliversgirls at gmail.com

02-09-2002, 12:41 AM	#2
[Labret] Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: Са́нкт-Петербу́рг Posts: 10,945	ahahaah that donation shit is absurd.

02-09-2002, 12:45 AM	#6
Plugger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Coast Posts: 592	What I find ironic about this is that we all here bitching about chargebacks, right? So now someone joins a site for a $3.95 trial and then they find a additional dollar was billed, think they are going to get pissed? At the very least the default should be UNCHECKED! If someone wants to donate they can read all of the text and check the box, but most people join an adult site have one hand on their dick and do not read everything that closely. We have enough problems to deal with, we should have to worry about our billing companies adding to them . . .

02-09-2002, 12:52 AM	#7
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	Yah it is a chargeback waiting to happen. I called them about it and they are saying to email in to be excluded. This must be some sort of half assed tax dodge or scam. I can't really fathom the rationale.

02-09-2002, 12:57 AM	#9
Roberto Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,459	soooo... what if it encourages them to sign up? so they clean their "dirty" concience about joining a pornsite but at the same time they're doing a donation...

02-09-2002, 02:21 AM	#12
Mark the Pithy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Upstate New Yawk Posts: 276	I wonder how much iBull profits? Tax right-offs and all... Didn't the right-wing try this shit awhile ago? That psuedo-gov agency is actually just an anti-porn group. Somebody host/post the Tenacious D "Fuck the Kids" mp3 here. And fuck you Ludedude and your reply to my post. LoL.

02-09-2002, 02:29 AM	#13
Nedder Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 555	that is insane Nz

02-09-2002, 04:34 AM	#16
pr0view Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Europe Posts: 270	yeah, great... what's tomorrow? a 99.99 donation for the recovery of afghanistan?

02-09-2002, 04:41 AM	#17
Pete Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Mr. Rogers Neighborhood Posts: 6,617	I've already moved to ccbill....Ibill has pissed me off too many times __________________ Evoke Electronics

02-09-2002, 02:25 PM	#20
Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,726	Are there any potential positives to this? Will this make a transaction harder to charge-back (lol)? If there is a donation can it somehow be classed differently for scrubbing?

02-09-2002, 02:37 PM	#21
Oliver Klozov Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Diego, Ca. USA Posts: 629	If there was any potential positives to this do you really think IBILL would tell us? Lets face it PR is not something IBILL has a clue about. These guys could fuck up a wet dream! IBILL by default has raisied the price to join a site by $1 without anyones permission. Now they are telling me that each account has to be reviewed before they will remove this option. What the fuck does that mean? As if sign ups weren't hard enough to get, IBILL goes and starts raising prices! Fuck IBILL!! __________________ Babe-Bucks.com ICQ 895-80-702 oliversgirls at gmail.com

02-09-2002, 03:10 PM	#22
Plugger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: North Coast Posts: 592	perhaps Ibill in some sort of wierd way is trying to get out of the adult billing business? Is this donation only on adult billing pages?

02-09-2002, 03:16 PM	#23
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	Last thing you need a man thinking about as he is pulling out his wallet is children and donations. I dont use ibill but it sucks anyway. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

02-09-2002, 03:39 PM	#24
jimmyf OU812 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: California Posts: 12,651	Good Ideal if ibill matches the $ 1.00, I believe that's the way most company's do it, at least that's what we learned were and when I were to school. __________________ Epic CashEpic Cash works for me Solar Cash Paysite Plugin Gallery of the day freesites,POTD,Gallery generator with free hosting

02-09-2002, 03:45 PM	#25
Heavy Boner Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1	Guys, Let's think about this. It's obvious that the federal government and Visa is cracking down on the industry. So, one billing company takes a proactive stance and will be sending money to Hillary Clinton's ( ... and she is a Senator ) favorite charity, fighting child pornography and taking some pressure off of us. I'm a webmaster and I have received no fall out other then longer time reading me advertising. Look at your stats and stop complaining. Be glad that aleast somebody is paying attention to what's going on. sincerly, making money, Heavy Boner

02-09-2002, 04:42 PM	#27
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	Amazing.... Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!

02-09-2002, 08:29 PM	#28
Snake Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 126	And who is Webplg.org? Well...... Domain Name: webpldg.org Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Internet Billing Company, Ltd. (PVCYGIQXPO) [email protected] Internet Billing Company, Ltd. 5701 Pine Island Rd. Tamarac, FL 33321 US 954-718-3000 fax: 954-724-2801 Billing Contact: Internet Billing Company, Ltd. (OCFTDNCNLO) [email protected] Internet Billing Company, Ltd. 5701 Pine Island Rd. Ste 240 Tamarac, FL 33321 US 954-718-3000 fax: 954-718-3000 Record last updated on 01-Feb-2002. Record expires on 01-Feb-2004. Record created on 01-Feb-2002. Database last updated on 9-Feb-2002 10:33:00 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS05.IBILL.COM 12.8.9.48 NS07.IBILL.COM 12.8.9.50 Interesting concept considering I continue to get "batch" refunds and revokes, not to mention the missing sign ups. Maybe I should start one of these "organizations".

02-10-2002, 01:26 PM	#31
NETbilling Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 8,584	My company actually has an ad. up on this site so that was not the case. I did not want to say anything negative this time about our competition so..... Amazing. Mitch __________________ Mitch Farber CEO - NETbilling, Inc. Email / Phone: 888-357-8166 / 661-252-2456 Transaction processing & 24/7 call center services with exceptional rates and flexibility, since 1998!