Dating Sponsors - What is better REV or PPS? - GoFuckYourself.com

TheSenator · 08-16-2005, 09:33 AM

I know at least 50% percent revshare is the way to go but lately I got caught up in the PPS model.

Who does better in the long run? Let's say one year - 365 days

1. A webmaster who does 5 sign-ups a day @ $25 per sign-up
2. A webmaster who does 5 sign-ups a day @ $15 per sign-up plus recurring at a 60% renewal rate.

MickeyG · 08-16-2005, 09:36 AM

I always make more with revshare, especially since some pay more then 50%

Dalai lama · 08-16-2005, 09:37 AM

I say that Revshare is better, but I also promote Sexsearch which pays per signup.

bauhaus · 08-16-2005, 09:39 AM

well....we offer up to 70% payouts.... and our average members seem to be around 6-7 months....

So its a no brainer really.

The Key to our payouts are...most of our traffic comes from offline marketing so we just offer high payouts to keep the online side busy!!!!

For ANY gay traffic.... hit me up.

ManAddict.com has been featured on gay cable stations, XM/Mainstream radio and various pride events around the country. Its an epidemic!!!

boner 2.0 · 08-16-2005, 09:39 AM

Another vote for revshare

David! · 08-16-2005, 09:41 AM

Dating sites tend to rebill longer than regular porn sites. So I would strongly advise to go for the rev share option. In most case, you make the same as PPS after the 2nd month rebills.
See sig if you want to try a top notch dating sponsors

EroticySteve · 08-16-2005, 09:44 AM

It's important to look at what program is going to do the right thing for you. In the short-term I fully believe that pay per sign up is in the favor of the publisher. Before conversion or revenue are a factor the publisher is earning a paycheck at the cost of the sponsor.

In the long-run revshare wins for new and renewal revenue. As we know some programs convert better than others, but ultimately revshare should be the better way to earn income as you pass some of the risk over to the publisher and they rely on the program for conversion.

TheSenator · 08-16-2005, 09:52 AM

What do dating sponsors prefer in the long run a webmaster sending PPS or REV sharing?

4Pics · 08-16-2005, 09:59 AM

I think you should do balance your traffic between revshare, per free and per sale. Revshare & PPS will help if your traffic source dies up and per free gets you instant money that you can use to grow.

Webmasters should slowly increase the amount sent to revshare so maybe after 8-12 months they have 90% or so of their traffic sent that way.

TheSenator · 08-16-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Pics

I think you should do balance your traffic between revshare, per free and per sale. Revshare & PPS will help if your traffic source dies up and per free gets you instant money that you can use to grow.

Webmasters should slowly increase the amount sent to revshare so maybe after 8-12 months they have 90% or so of their traffic sent that way.

I am going through a transitional period from PPS to REV. My REV should be picking up in the next 3 months to catch up with my PPS. I wanna switch as many dating sponsors to REV.

bauhaus · 08-16-2005, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

What do dating sponsors prefer in the long run a webmaster sending PPS or REV sharing?

to be honest...only a few people have asked for PPS... its just not really anything to look for from a gay based site.

And I know from all the media buys we do...I base my buys on my recurring rev from this site...not sure I will fly to a city setup an expensive booth for $35 per signup...would just go broke...but when you look 8 months in *hell even at 50%* its just worth my time to travel and promote the shit outta this

EroticySteve · 08-16-2005, 10:08 AM

As a program you do what's right for the people who build your business. Each situation is different and depending on how well someone converts it may be more cost effective for me to get traffic one way vs the other but ultimately it's what the affiliate needs that determines what is right.

TheSenator · 08-16-2005, 10:50 AM

Who has the highest paying dating reshare above 60%? Please, don't include prizes, giveaways or post number bot paypal cash. thanks

TondaB · 08-16-2005, 10:55 AM

Adult Date Link pays 60% recurring. There are other programs that pay more but the bottom line, especially with RevShare, is how big your check is

MickeyG · 08-16-2005, 10:57 AM

Iwantu pays upto 70% revshare, Definately a good one to add to your mix I have members rebilling for over 3 years now

adamneve · 08-16-2005, 11:24 AM

i would say $32 - $40 per signup check sig for sites

BlackCrayon · 08-16-2005, 12:08 PM

depends on the site i'd say. i've never been inside these dating sites but i'd imagine the ones that are full of fake profiles don't rebill very well.

wargames · 08-16-2005, 12:12 PM

rev share cause you get those 60-90-180 day sales

but it depends on the site as well if it cant retain always
take per sign up which i have done with alot of dating
sponsors. Only have 2 on rev share now.

betsy · 08-16-2005, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Who has the highest paying dating reshare above 60%? Please, don't include prizes, giveaways or post number bot paypal cash. thanks

AFF pays up to 75% and, on my own personal sites, i choose revhsare over PPS, and PPC - theres a good reason for that. ;)

Drake · 08-16-2005, 12:27 PM

It probably varies per site. See sig for a dating program that pays both revshare and PPS.

TondaB · 08-16-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TondaB

Adult Date Link pays 50% recurring. There are other programs that pay more but the bottom line, especially with RevShare, is how big your check is

See edited quote: I am on another planet today

axelcat · 08-16-2005, 02:17 PM

Revshare would be my choice

Jay · 08-16-2005, 02:28 PM

I would say revshare is the way to go to make more money in the long run. As someone already mentioned members tend to stay longer in dating sites vs porn sites. LOVEDOLLARS pays 60% recurring.

Varius · 08-16-2005, 05:28 PM

I think it depends for each individual site, naturally.....but in the realm of dating, most sites rebill well.

Those that charge more though, like $35-40 per month, may rebill quite a bit less than those charging $19.95-29.95. However if you are working off a %, it comes to the same thing for you.

You can notice though, if a site is giving away 2 months revenue for their PPS, they most likely know their site rebills longer than 2 months. Those giving away just one month's fee (or less) as PPS might not be as confident (or they just need/want more of the share for themselves...)

On that note, IwantU pays upto 70% Revshare or $35 PPS (this should be going up very soon to match our new Pay per Profile which equates upto $50 PPS).

http://affiliates.iwantu.com or use any IwantU Affiliate's referral link or sig

myjah · 08-17-2005, 08:42 PM

I always advise my affiliates that pay per signup is great if you need the money now, but revshare always pays off better in the long run. With that said, I suggest that webmasters who are strictly pay per signup slowly diversy their payout in order to build retaining revshare members. AdultActionCam.com's average member retains for 4+ months, so revshare obviously pays off for our affiliates.

08-16-2005, 09:33 AM	#1
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,337	Dating Sponsors - What is better REV or PPS? I know at least 50% percent revshare is the way to go but lately I got caught up in the PPS model. Who does better in the long run? Let's say one year - 365 days 1. A webmaster who does 5 sign-ups a day @ $25 per sign-up 2. A webmaster who does 5 sign-ups a day @ $15 per sign-up plus recurring at a 60% renewal rate. __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

08-16-2005, 09:37 AM	#3
Dalai lama Strength and Honor Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 16,540	I say that Revshare is better, but I also promote Sexsearch which pays per signup. __________________ A program you can trust. Gallerybooster Run multiply TGPs of 1 script

08-16-2005, 09:39 AM	#4
bauhaus Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 773	well....we offer up to 70% payouts.... and our average members seem to be around 6-7 months.... So its a no brainer really. The Key to our payouts are...most of our traffic comes from offline marketing so we just offer high payouts to keep the online side busy!!!! For ANY gay traffic.... hit me up. ManAddict.com has been featured on gay cable stations, XM/Mainstream radio and various pride events around the country. Its an epidemic!!! __________________ Insane, Color and Instant Sensation REalize the potential of dynamic coded features all in real time Vivid Php Code This is the reality of Outsoursouring SKype HolyBauhaus Deep, Deep in the Tropical Dry Rainforest.

08-16-2005, 09:39 AM	#5
boner 2.0 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 10,970	Another vote for revshare __________________

08-16-2005, 09:41 AM	#6
David! By the wrath of Agamemnon Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Miami Posts: 6,501	Dating sites tend to rebill longer than regular porn sites. So I would strongly advise to go for the rev share option. In most case, you make the same as PPS after the 2nd month rebills. See sig if you want to try a top notch dating sponsors __________________ .

08-16-2005, 09:36 AM	#2
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	I always make more with revshare, especially since some pay more then 50%

08-16-2005, 09:44 AM	#7
EroticySteve Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 4,365	It's important to look at what program is going to do the right thing for you. In the short-term I fully believe that pay per sign up is in the favor of the publisher. Before conversion or revenue are a factor the publisher is earning a paycheck at the cost of the sponsor. In the long-run revshare wins for new and renewal revenue. As we know some programs convert better than others, but ultimately revshare should be the better way to earn income as you pass some of the risk over to the publisher and they rely on the program for conversion. __________________ You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that. Our affiliates earn up to $3/email or $107/sale email steve <at> eroticy.com - icq 290153464

08-16-2005, 09:52 AM	#8
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,337	What do dating sponsors prefer in the long run a webmaster sending PPS or REV sharing? __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

08-16-2005, 09:59 AM	#9
4Pics Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 7,952	I think you should do balance your traffic between revshare, per free and per sale. Revshare & PPS will help if your traffic source dies up and per free gets you instant money that you can use to grow. Webmasters should slowly increase the amount sent to revshare so maybe after 8-12 months they have 90% or so of their traffic sent that way.

08-16-2005, 10:08 AM	#12
EroticySteve Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Sunshine State Posts: 4,365	As a program you do what's right for the people who build your business. Each situation is different and depending on how well someone converts it may be more cost effective for me to get traffic one way vs the other but ultimately it's what the affiliate needs that determines what is right. __________________ You deserve to make more money. I'll help you do that. Our affiliates earn up to $3/email or $107/sale email steve <at> eroticy.com - icq 290153464

08-16-2005, 10:50 AM	#13
TheSenator Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 13,337	Who has the highest paying dating reshare above 60%? Please, don't include prizes, giveaways or post number bot paypal cash. thanks __________________ ISeekGirls.com since 2005

08-16-2005, 10:55 AM	#14
TondaB Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: California Posts: 3,162	Adult Date Link pays 60% recurring. There are other programs that pay more but the bottom line, especially with RevShare, is how big your check is __________________ ICQ: 61462417

08-16-2005, 10:57 AM	#15
MickeyG Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 4,134	Iwantu pays upto 70% revshare, Definately a good one to add to your mix I have members rebilling for over 3 years now

08-16-2005, 11:24 AM	#16
adamneve LIVING LA VITA LOCA Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Internet Posts: 13,324	i would say $32 - $40 per signup check sig for sites __________________ MetArtMoney.com - #1 Nude Affiliate Program MetArt CCbill Affiliate Tools 4K, HD, UP TO 50 MEGAPIXEL Mobile & Tablet Support Daily Updates HTML5 Tools skype: adamneve8 ICQ# 174167541 AIM: adineve YahooM: adineve

08-16-2005, 12:08 PM	#17
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	depends on the site i'd say. i've never been inside these dating sites but i'd imagine the ones that are full of fake profiles don't rebill very well. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

08-16-2005, 12:12 PM	#18
wargames Kliris Join Date: May 2003 Location: ca Posts: 10,423	rev share cause you get those 60-90-180 day sales but it depends on the site as well if it cant retain always take per sign up which i have done with alot of dating sponsors. Only have 2 on rev share now. __________________ ICQ 212-115-582 Email Steve at Vas Media Group .com

08-16-2005, 12:27 PM	#20
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	It probably varies per site. See sig for a dating program that pays both revshare and PPS.

08-16-2005, 02:17 PM	#22
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	Revshare would be my choice

08-16-2005, 02:28 PM	#23
Jay Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: can I get there from here Posts: 1,131	I would say revshare is the way to go to make more money in the long run. As someone already mentioned members tend to stay longer in dating sites vs porn sites. LOVEDOLLARS pays 60% recurring. __________________ Jay <at> DateProfits.com \| Skype: onemarketpro

08-16-2005, 05:28 PM	#24
Varius Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York, NY Posts: 6,890	I think it depends for each individual site, naturally.....but in the realm of dating, most sites rebill well. Those that charge more though, like $35-40 per month, may rebill quite a bit less than those charging $19.95-29.95. However if you are working off a %, it comes to the same thing for you. You can notice though, if a site is giving away 2 months revenue for their PPS, they most likely know their site rebills longer than 2 months. Those giving away just one month's fee (or less) as PPS might not be as confident (or they just need/want more of the share for themselves...) On that note, IwantU pays upto 70% Revshare or $35 PPS (this should be going up very soon to match our new Pay per Profile which equates upto $50 PPS). http://affiliates.iwantu.com or use any IwantU Affiliate's referral link or sig __________________ Skype variuscr - Email varius AT gmail

08-17-2005, 08:42 PM	#25
myjah Back in the harbor Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 11,482	I always advise my affiliates that pay per signup is great if you need the money now, but revshare always pays off better in the long run. With that said, I suggest that webmasters who are strictly pay per signup slowly diversy their payout in order to build retaining revshare members. AdultActionCam.com's average member retains for 4+ months, so revshare obviously pays off for our affiliates. __________________ VP of Marketing AVN Media Network Skype: AVNJill [email protected]