outsourcing rocks

Does it really matter? It's well known that many of the American flags you see have a "made in China" tag on them. Whether that picture was taken in China or not, the fact remains that Americans are buying and flying American flags made in China.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gallery/im...263345,00.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0701/p01s03-usgn.html

Alibaba.com is a site that helps people find Chinese manufacturers, look at their US flag section

http://www.alibaba.com/productsearch/USA_Flag.html

You make a lot of assumptions. I have lived and traveled all over this fine earth. Your second assumption is also baseless, as I do not get my information from TV. China is what it is, a Communist regime where 99% of the population lives in shit, literally.



I used 20 million as an example of a good sized society, not some ass backwards indigenous population you are pulling out of your ass to 'show' Communism has worked. Small sects of population can always live a certain way. When you start throwing real numbers of population in one place that's when your pie in the sky forms of Utopia fall apart.

Right about what? Reviewing your statements, you still have not answered my questions.

I am one of the most realisitic people you will ever meet. I look at things from a first hand, world view. Let's revisit this topic in 10 years, or 20 years even. China's fundamental flaws will prevent it from ever being deemed a first world nation.

oh the irony...:Oh Crap

Products - You're right I don't much in the lines of trinkets and bullshit, but when I do buy things I make sure it is made in the First World. My cars range anywhere from a Porsche to a Cadillac. My clothes are made in Italy. My furniture made in the USA & Italy. I just did a remodel of my house: my floors came from Australia, my cabinets were made in Texas, my appliances were made in the USA (except my dishwasher -> Germany), tile was made in Spain, Marble came from Greece, counter tops from USA (NH granite), etc etc

I watch very closely what I buy, as should most people! I am 100% in favor of a market economy, so when people buy Chinese products, all the power to them. BUT I do not want to hear them cry when the ripple thru the US economy takes them out.

Africa - The corruption will never end, same with South America, but if they can get it semi-managed that will be the next cheap labor hot spot...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=semantics

The meaning or the interpretation of a word, sentence, or other language form: We're basically agreed; let's not quibble over semantics.

I love how the Marxists come out of the woodwork to debate the word and effects of Communism as it applies to China's role in modern society.

Wow! Impressive list, do me a favor (since you are doing research), make me a list of every invention and moderization done by people of European descent. When you have the complete list, send it over... I will give you about 5 years to complile it.

I read a couple intelligent replies and then some Ideologues replies.

I'm willing to go to the nearest University with someone and actually pick the brain of a professor or two.

50..,......

Nobody said anything about China being considered a first world nation, it could become the world's largest economy and still not be considered a first world nation.

never say 'ever'.

Oh the irony..

The power of the mighty dollar

china is so sweet to help the americans do that work. lols

Yeah, lot's of American flags are made in China and sold in the US. Not just the ones that the Arabs burn in riots :(

I guess you have not been to China for at least 20 years :1orglaugh

China's rural population in abject poverty falls by 2.9 million

By the end of 2004, the number of China's rural residents classified as "in abject poverty" fell by 2.9 million from the previous year, according to statistics released Thursday by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS).

The number of rural residents living in abject poverty stood at 26.1 million at the end of 2004, or 2.8 percent of the total rural population. At the same time, low-income residents, or those who have primarily solved food and clothing problems, stood at 49.77 million, a fall of 6.4 million from the previous year, accounting for 5.3 percent of the total rural population.

In 2004, the official per capita income standard for abject poverty had been raised from 637 yuan in the previous year to 668 yuan, while that for low-income was raised from 882 yuan to 924 yuan

The NBS analysis said that in 2004 the Chinese government continued to pay high attention to the issue of rural poverty, implemented a series of beneficial policies for rural residents, largely lowered the tax burden on farmers and speeded-up the construction of the rural social security system, which all contributed to the poverty relief in rural areas.

http://www2.chinadaily.com.cn/englis...ent_436372.htm

You're an idiot. I'm white but why do white people think they invented everything?

China had gun powder for HUNDREDS of years before Marco Polo visited. Took whitey to figure out you could use it to KILL someone else with it.

Arabs invented algebra the concept of the number zero.

While the Chinese and Arabs were making advances in techology, mathematics and astronomy, Euros were busy killing each other over differences in the way they should believe in God.

verisexy knows how to use google

Yup, I can tell that 99% of them are living like shit............ :Oh crap

http://tinypic.com/5x9842.jpg
http://tinypic.com/5vqerc.jpg
http://tinypic.com/5vqi51.jpg
http://tinypic.com/5vqic0.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...Dandong/d1.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y21...Dandong/d4.jpg
http://hongdou.gxnews.com.cn/hongdou...4222522589.jpg
http://hongdou.gxnews.com.cn/hongdou...2614149169.jpg
http://img289.echo.cx/img289/1919/112od.jpg

hahaha thats great

is that shanghai?

Google is your best friend :winkwink:

http://img289.echo.cx/img289/3594/152jo.jpg
http://img289.echo.cx/img289/4841/252cq.jpg
http://img289.echo.cx/img289/8394/98sn.jpg
http://img289.echo.cx/img289/367/84pb.jpg
http://img289.echo.cx/img289/650/93ri.jpg

There are lot's of very nice citys in China, not just Shanghai

http://www.network54.com/Forum/messa...eid=1121914359

See All Threads by Xiao Long (Tons Of Pictures From All Over China)

http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/7682/jilin9uw.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/3049/jilin020po.jpg
http://img347.imageshack.us/img347/647/jilin033gf.jpg
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1...angzhou8dp.jpg
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/1950/shenzhen9uo.jpg

Found the main thread Mainland China's not so famous cities


http://www.network54.com/Forum/threa...p=1122 954933

WOW !!! I knew China was developing but WOW !!

Yeah lot's of people have no idea how much China has changed in just 20 years. Pretty amazing..............

Damn.. beautiful cities