Palestinian army celebrate their victory!

[pr0]

Congrats Israel for giving into international lobbying & terrorism ....and finally pulling out.

Just goes to show everyone in the world, if you got enough people willing to blow themselves up for a cause, it eventually gets done.

Round of applause seriously......

[Hustlin Entertainment]

Originally Posted by pr0

Congrats Israel for giving into international lobbying & terrorism ....and finally pulling out.

Just goes to show everyone in the world, if you got enough people willing to blow themselves up for a cause, it eventually gets done.

Round of applause seriously......

This is from the same guy who says we should invade North Korea, Iran , Iraq...too bad redneck boy, America can't even control Iraq right now, Israel is at fault for alot of these conflicts in the West Bank to begin with...You really think Israel is going to pull out that easy? You are an idiot...

[pr0]

Originally Posted by Hustlin Entertainment

This is from the same guy who says we should invade North Korea, Iran , Iraq...too bad redneck boy, America can't even control Iraq right now, Israel is at fault for alot of these conflicts in the West Bank to begin with...You really think Israel is going to pull out that easy? You are an idiot...

i got kidrock in my sig so all the sudden i'm a redneck

i love it

[PixeLs]

Well, though with uncertainty, I still hope someone is willing to give up. ;)

[crowkid]

Israel, is a tiny country that is free, surrounded by islamic countries who's only goal is to annihilate the state of Israel. Why? Because the peaceful Koran that 95% of the idiots on this board defend says to not trust and to kill all Jews and the West... Also, notice how Israel is the only country in the middle east with a great economy...HMMM, COULD IT BE THAT, THE PEOPLE ARENT TORTURED DAILY BY ISLAMIC FAGGOTS? AND THE WOMEN CAN SHOW THEIR ASSES IF THEY WANT, OR PURSUE A CAREER....some of you on here are brain dead, and when the Islamic flag flies over your shitty insignificant country, I'm glad the USA will not give a shit about you!

jew hating racist faggots... Can't wait till you submit to Allah and his boys.

[pr0]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Israel, is a tiny country that is free, surrounded by islamic countries who's only goal is to annihilate the state of Israel. Why? Because the peaceful Koran that 95% of the idiots on this board defend says to not trust and to kill all Jews and the West... Also, notice how Israel is the only country in the middle east with a great economy...HMMM, COULD IT BE THAT, THE PEOPLE ARENT TORTURED DAILY BY ISLAMIC FAGGOTS? AND THE WOMEN CAN SHOW THEIR ASSES IF THEY WANT, OR PURSUE A CAREER....some of you on here are brain dead, and when the Islamic flag flies over your shitty insignificant country, I'm glad the USA will not give a shit about you!

jew hating racist faggots... Can't wait till you submit to Allah and his boys.

cept for the fag remark

[colpanic]

I still think we should take everyone who wants that land.. make them all go there and fight for it until one side is left. Then build a big wall and make them stay there.

Everybody wins.

[pr0]

Originally Posted by colpanic

I still think we should take everyone who wants that land.. .

its been fought over for thousands of years

it never ends, the language, relegion & color of the people just change

[smack]

people are fucking up shit already...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/...out/index.html

GAZA CITY (CNN) -- Jewish settlers remaining in Gaza rioted early Monday as the Israeli military began a historic withdrawal from the territory, Israeli police said.

In other parts of Gaza, police reported residents coming under fire from Palestinian militants.

There were no immediate reports of injuries from any of the incidents, which took place in the hours after Israel closed the Kissufim border crossing and 20 others that settlers used to enter Gaza.

Israel officially began its historic pullout from Gaza Sunday at the stroke of midnight (5 p.m. ET), coordinating with Palestinian forces to crack down on any violence.

Israeli officials planned to begin informing the approximately 8,500 Jewish settlers that they have 48 hours to leave Gaza or be removed by force. Some have already left.

Police reported rioting in Neve Dekalim, the largest of the settlements, around the time troops closed the crossings. At one point, about 300 people were involved, police said. But the situation was reported to be calm by 2:30 a.m. Monday.

In the southern Gaza settlement of Kfar Darom and the central settlement of Netzarim, police said Palestinian militants were shooting at settlers who remain.

Leaders on both sides expressed high hopes for the withdrawal. Israeli Vice Prime Minister Shimon Peres told CNN Sunday, "I'm sure that history will justify our choice."

Palestinian Foreign Minister Nasser al-Kidwa told CNN, "What's happening is important, and it's positive."

But the looming possibility of violence from settlers and their ultranationalist supporters on one side, and Palestinian militant groups on the other, threatened to overshadow the optimism.

Many Gaza settlers are being forced to leave against their wishes after living for decades in the Israeli occupied territory.

Israel also is withdrawing from four Jewish settlements in the West Bank -- like Gaza, land that Israel has occupied since the 1967 Six-Day War.

Israel Defense Forces Chief of Staff Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz said Sunday the four West Bank settlements -- which are among 120 -- will be vacated after the completion of withdrawal from the Gaza settlements.

He predicted that about half the Gaza settlers will leave voluntarily. Those who don't may be removed by force as early as Wednesday.

Shortly before Sunday's midnight deadline, a steady stream of vehicles left the Gush Katif settlement block, heading toward Israel. Most had orange ribbons affixed to their cars, symbolizing peaceful disapproval of the pullouts.

Other settlers have promised to resist and have been joined in Gaza in recent days by thousands of anti-withdrawal activists. About 5,000 Israeli youths who are not settlers are inside Gaza, Halutz said.

"We're going to have to tell the government, 'No you cannot take us out of Gush Katif,' " settler Rachel Saperstein said. "We are going to stay here as long as possible, as long as our food supply holds out, our water supply and beyond that."

Israeli Defense Minister Shaoul Mofaz has predicted that all settlers will be out of Gaza within a month of disengagement.

Israel also plans to withdraw its troops from Gaza by the Jewish New Year, Rosh Hashanah, in the beginning of October.

While many settlers express religious fervor and a belief that Gaza is part of the historic Jewish homeland, some secular Israelis expressing nationalist sentiment have come to fight the pullout.

One of their chief arguments: That leaving Gaza after years of terrorist attacks by Palestinian militant groups will only reward terrorism and lead to similar tactics by groups wanting to destroy Israel.

Last week, Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu resigned as finance minister, warning Gaza will "become an Islamic terrorist base," endangering "not only Israel but many others in the world."

Meanwhile, about 20,000 Palestinian police and security forces were expected to play a role in the pullout -- 7,500 of them were deployed Sunday near Jewish settlements in southern Gaza, Palestinian security sources said.

They will focus largely on preventing attacks from militants and working to ensure that Palestinians who may move into evacuated areas are safe.

Israeli troops, larger in number and with much more training, are focusing largely on preventing violence from settlers and protecting them from militants.

Israeli government officials have said they hope the withdrawal will change the political landscape of the Middle East, opening the way for resumption of peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.
Palestinian security on alert

Despite complaints about a lack of equipment, Palestinian Authority security forces Saturday were on high alert, stationed outside settlements across Gaza to prevent violence in preparation for the withdrawal of Israeli troops and thousands of Jewish settlers.

Most of the settlers are to be evacuated from Gaza, where Israel has been closely coordinating with Palestinian security forces. A joint information and coordination center has been established at Erez Crossing along the northern Gaza-Israel border.

However, a senior Palestinian minister told CNN's Ben Wedeman that Palestinian security forces in Gaza have been forced to buy bullets on the black market for about $8 each because Israel's military is not providing any ammunition for the ill-equipped forces.

The atmosphere among many Palestinians is jubilant, seeing the pullout of Jewish settlers as a victory. At Gaza City's fishermen's harbor Friday, a crowd waved Palestinian flags in an official celebration of the withdrawal. Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas addressed the crowd and was given a hero's welcome.

Hamas leaders have quietly told the Palestinian Authority they will not disrupt the withdrawal process, but not everyone trusts that pledge.

In a news conference Saturday, senior Hamas member Ismail Haniyye called the withdrawal a "retreat" and said it was "a result of resistance and our people's sacrifice."

"It is evidence that resistance is able to achieve our national goals," he said.

He also vowed that the armed struggle against the Jewish state would continue, despite the pullout.

"Hamas confirms its adherence to resistance as a strategic option until the occupation retreats from our lands and holy places," senior Hamas member Ismail Haniyye said. "Our movement reaffirms that it will protect its military apparatus and Al Qassam Brigades and its weapons and keep them for defending our land."

Hamas, a Palestinian Islamic fundamentalist organization, has been labeled by the U.S. State Department as a terrorist organization. The group's military wing, Izzedine al Qassam, has admitted responsibility for terrorist attacks against Israeli civilians as well as attacks against the Israeli military.
Peres warns troops of violence

Peres met with troops Sunday at the Kissufim border crossing in Gaza, warning that they may face violence from settlers or ultranationalist supporters.

"You are saving the state of Israel," Peres said. "Israel has dangers from the outside, and [Israel Defense Forces] face them all. And now, we have a danger from the inside, and now the IDF has to deal with that as well."

"There is no sense whatsoever to remain here," he added. "The settlers do not have a future in the Gaza Strip, because they cannot live as an isolated group of people 8,000-strong among a million-and-a-half Palestinians who live in poverty and protest and unemployment."
Possible turning point

Sharon, who has invested much of his political future in the pullout's success, has said it may jump-start peace efforts between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Although Palestinian leaders criticized Sharon for making the plan unilaterally -- rather than as part of brokered talks -- they also have expressed hope that, after 38 years in Gaza, Israel's evacuation may create a turning point.

The Bush administration supports the plan. In an interview last week with Israel's Channel 1 TV, Bush called the decision "bold."

"The disengagement is, I think, a part of making Israel more secure and peaceful, and I agree with the prime minister," Bush said. "I can understand why people think this decision is one that will create a vacuum into which terrorism will flow. I happen to disagree. I think this will create an opportunity for democracy to emerge. And democracies are peaceful."

[smack]

- edit - sorry about the consecutive posts, my interwebs be a malfunctioning tonight.

[rickholio]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Also, notice how Israel is the only country in the middle east with a great economy...HMMM, COULD IT BE THAT, THE PEOPLE ARENT TORTURED DAILY BY ISLAMIC FAGGOTS? AND THE WOMEN CAN SHOW THEIR ASSES IF THEY WANT, OR PURSUE A CAREER....

Or it could be because much of US foreign aid pours into israel every year, to the tune of around $90bil since 1949, somewhere on the lines of about $23.5k per israeli overall. Over $2B USD is offered in loan guarantees and grants every year, and that only covers the funds on the books.

Yes, israel is doing well, but that's far more likely due to major cash infusion than anything else.

[VirtuMike]

I'm on the fence here (figuratively). I think what will happen may be quite the chain of events. I think that once the Jews are out of those territories, they will turn into the world's worst shithole with no way out and no means to survive. The land will turn into Mad Max and you'll see gangs fighting for food. They'll turn against each other and that'll be it until Israel comes to take charge of the land once again - this time with half as many people. Things will never change - this is just a procedure to thin out their numbers and show the world that these arabs really are barbarians with no respect for life.

[nofx]

its a never ending struggle

[pr0]

Originally Posted by VirtuMike

I'm on the fence here (figuratively). I think what will happen may be quite the chain of events. I think that once the Jews are out of those territories, they will turn into the world's worst shithole with no way out and no means to survive. The land will turn into Mad Max and you'll see gangs fighting for food. They'll turn against each other and that'll be it until Israel comes to take charge of the land once again - this time with half as many people. Things will never change - this is just a procedure to thin out their numbers and show the world that these arabs really are barbarians with no respect for life.

And that sums it up pretty well

[tristan_D]

the conflict in that area had been going on for centuries now and I think it will go on for a vey long time. so sad.

[montrealpornking]

Originally Posted by VirtuMike

I'm on the fence here (figuratively). I think what will happen may be quite the chain of events. I think that once the Jews are out of those territories, they will turn into the world's worst shithole with no way out and no means to survive. The land will turn into Mad Max and you'll see gangs fighting for food. They'll turn against each other and that'll be it until Israel comes to take charge of the land once again - this time with half as many people. Things will never change - this is just a procedure to thin out their numbers and show the world that these arabs really are barbarians with no respect for life.

I second that Mike.
Before Israel got there is was a worthless shithole and now when they leave it will be a shithole.
In regards to being barbarians we knew that but after September 11th, 2001 the rest of the world knew that as well.
Those who say otherwise are barbarians themselfs who justify thier so called cause for the so called religion.
Want me to respect you ? Stop wearing an explosive belt and stop setting it off on buses where innocent people are doing nothing but trying to go to work or coming back from work to the familes who love them so much.

[JuiceMonkey]

wow..
just wow..

[David!]

This is a strategic move from Ariel Sharon.
Give some to show the world who really wants peace.
This time Sharon took everyone by surprise, even the US.
So, when there are no Jews left in Gaza and the rockets keep on falling, no one can stop Israel from turning Gaza into a parking lot, and a parking lot it needs to be

There is no peace possible with someone that wants you dead and hates you so much that they are willing to sacrifice their innocents.
PussyMan 8/15/05

[reed_4]

too early for a celebration and the war is just starting.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by crowkid

Israel, is a tiny country that is free, surrounded by islamic countries who's only goal is to annihilate the state of Israel. Why?

because in 1948 the UN took their land and gave it to the Jews who didn't want to live in Europe because the Germans tried to killl them all.