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08-10-2005, 08:44 AM
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server question
what exactly is expected in a "managed server" from a host....
all current patches and security holes closed??? (security holes closed - similar to what some peeps here offer as a lockdown/hardening server service?) and these tasks are on a continual basis?? anything else provided that makes it a better choice instead of unmanaged?? I'm looking for a new dedicated server for a new project....
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08-10-2005, 08:50 AM
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Think about hardware troubles to. A managed server with a broken harddrive will be up and running within a couple of hours. Unmanaged.. Well, you're fucked.
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08-10-2005, 08:53 AM
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actually at Cyberwurx (i have some stuff there) hardware replacement is included in unmanaged servers....
thats why i'm asking for a little input on all this....
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08-10-2005, 08:54 AM
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Here is a little run down of what we include in a fully managed dedicated server: All is done on a continual basis and proactively... Install and configure Firewall Binary Hardening PhpsysInfo Version Checker or portaudit PAM Resource Limiting Formmail Checker AIDE installation and configuration WhoCompiled - Check for compiler usage Logwatch installation and configuration Kernel update with grsecurity or custom changes SSH access limitations and hardening Optional Services*, provided on a per server basis after initial setup Optional Services, must be requested only by e-mailing [email protected] Check and clean the mail queue Exiscan installation and configuration Hardisk checking tool Mailmon - Sendmail monitor ClamAV installation and configuration Snort w/Acid configuration Apf with antidos capability - Optional Mod_security module for Apache - Optional MRTG installation and configuration - Optional MailScanner install and configuration ? Optional Checking for root kits Scan for root kit on the server Check logs and block all suspect ips Check server load and partitions to perform maintenance activities Check /proc for hidden or unwanted processes Clean up unwanted files from /tmp Scan server for *.c or binary files (which have possible security issues) Scan for Trojan Horses Set cron jobs to remove log files rotated up to 3 or upwards (space saving measures) Check tcp connections and make sure no unwanted ips or ports are listed Scan and clean the mail queue for viruses and SPAM Watchmysql - mysql monitor Disabling Telnet Access Securing named and host configuration files PSAD - Port Scan Detector PRM - Process resource monitor PMON - Network socket monitor BFD - Brute force detection SIM - System Integrity Monitor SPRI - System priority configuration Scan system logs and block suspect IPs Hit me up with any questions... |
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08-10-2005, 08:55 AM
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Additionally performance tuning, if your site starts to do more traffic its the hosts responsibility to configure it accordingly to handle the larger load.
Also script/module/application installations are handled by a managed host. Basically you dont need to do anything and you can concentrate on your project instead of spending time trying to figure something out on the server, also a managed host since they have hundreds of machines probably has best practice routines worked out that are quite stable and effective hence you're gaining their expertise for your own dedicated server.
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08-10-2005, 08:57 AM
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I'll have the Snort w/Acid configuration with some bolognese please.. 
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08-10-2005, 10:08 AM
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08-10-2005, 10:38 AM
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with managed server you can store highly sensitive information on the server and you can run programs on the server that are not allowed or supported by shared web hosting providers
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08-12-2005, 04:52 AM
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Be careful as the definitons managed, semi-managed and fully managed differ with every provider. Some include monitoring, kernek updates, patches and proactive intervention while others don't.
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08-12-2005, 06:30 AM
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08-12-2005, 06:50 AM
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08-12-2005, 07:03 AM
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everyone has different points of view about what fully managed means.
Real managed (the way I see it) its offered by only a few providers tho, none of the ones that are spamming this board. With a fully managed provider the only thing you should care about is running your sites. You don't need root access because theres nothing you need to do with it. A managed provider will keep your server updated without the need for you to notice them of new vulnerabilities. They should make sure your services are 100% up without you interfering. They should also be able to fix any problem in a reasonable amount of time. Needless to say there needs to be someone online 24/7 that answers you in less than 10 minutes. |
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08-13-2005, 04:31 AM
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Lester,
Great question and has been address quite well by the above post(s). I would only add that your host should fully stock and be able to replace parts in your server in less then 15 minutes from notification 24/7. If they can not provide this service it may an indication that they are a reseller or do not staff the data center 24/7. Regards, Anthony |
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