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budz · 08-12-2005, 07:21 PM

51......

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 07:27 PM

God I love the "business minded" people on GFY

This thread shows what real amateurs there are in this industry compared to other industries..including some of the biggest names.

Nothing, and I repeat nothing anyone seems to throw together works right.

They all get a hair up their ass a few days before a show and expect it to fall together just the way they want it.

Apparently TrafficGigolos *yes what a professional sounding name for a company* is another one of those.

You order cards within days of a show....jeez you should have gone to a nearby print shop and paid for a rush job..one that you could have come back to within a few hours to okay the copy and get started..and POSSIBLY *a word I stress* have them done within the time frame you needed them done.

But no...you like most other sponsors, programs etc SUCK AT THIS.

brand0n · 08-12-2005, 07:31 PM

a group of fuckin morons

MaLil · 08-12-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

a group of fuckin morons

And here's one that just can't stop posting the same useless dribble...

new material please.

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MaLil

And here's one that just can't stop posting the same useless dribble...

new material please.

who are you?
You actually work for Brett or are you just some lame ass post whore?

Jace · 08-12-2005, 07:36 PM

i really do swear, and I may be wrong, but I am pretty damn sure, that almost every single event that happens in atlanta is using acidflyers.com for their printing

if it is like that in any other cities, i seriously doubt this thread will have much impact....

acidflyers.com rocks a big booty shaking dance of joy, and not just in the porn industry either!

brand0n · 08-12-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

who are you?
You actually work for Brett or are you just some lame ass post whore?

time will tell

MaLil · 08-12-2005, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

who are you?
You actually work for Brett or are you just some lame ass post whore?

Nice welcome. A lame-ass post whore with under 10 posts?

I've worked for Brett for the last 6 months, although most of my time has been spent under his desk.

While trafficgigalo's argument may not have been well articulated, I think their beef is not the fact that their order didn't arrive on time, but that they were told by customer service at acid that they were being printed, delivered and carried personally too them. That didn't happen, and it took days into the show to get that straightened out. Late/Emergency/Rush order or not, that's pretty lame.

Shooting_Manic · 08-12-2005, 07:59 PM

A full apology and refund was made on the 8th by highonacid.

This kid just lives to bitch. Karma is right! May he never get an order on time again and may all his pizza show up cold.

Highonacids full and humble apology.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...38#post7981038

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MaLil

Nice welcome. A lame-ass post whore with under 10 posts?

I've worked for Brett for the last 6 months, although most of my time has been spent under his desk.

While trafficgigalo's argument may not have been well articulated, I think their beef is not the fact that their order didn't arrive on time, but that they were told by customer service at acid that they were being printed, delivered and carried personally too them. That didn't happen, and it took days into the show to get that straightened out. Late/Emergency/Rush order or not, that's pretty lame.

You can be a new post whore..being paid to do nothing but draw attention to your sig..and with the name it sounded like yet another filipinio post whore showing up on the scene.

Now let's turn our attention to the drama at hand.

TrafficGigolos fucked this up..pure plain and simple...follow the threads and you'll see.

I'm so sick and tired of the lame ass wanna be business people in this industry who couldn't organize taking a shit because they would order the toilet paper when it came time to flush.

This is not an anomaly, this is the standard operating procedure for this industry....I spent years on the other end taking those orders and everything was a rush order.why?

Because hardly anyone here has a clue how to actually run a business.

Shoehorn! · 08-12-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

El Duderino · 08-12-2005, 08:10 PM

a close friend of mine used them after i recommended them - they had fast service and quick shipping - oh yeah - they were dirt cheap too

SureFire · 08-12-2005, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

You can be a new post whore..being paid to do nothing but draw attention to your sig..and with the name it sounded like yet another filipinio post whore showing up on the scene.

Now let's turn our attention to the drama at hand.

TrafficGigolos fucked this up..pure plain and simple...follow the threads and you'll see.

I'm so sick and tired of the lame ass wanna be business people in this industry who couldn't organize taking a shit because they would order the toilet paper when it came time to flush.

This is not an anomaly, this is the standard operating procedure for this industry....I spent years on the other end taking those orders and everything was a rush order.why?

Because hardly anyone here has a clue how to actually run a business.

I agree with you.

Just wondering why <insert any company's name> and think an apology on a bb and a refund is okay.

It seems that Acid tried and couldn't deliver. With all the volume printing that his shop does, I would think he would just send a nice email or call the customer saying the deadline is to tight for our shop...

JMO

Rob · 08-12-2005, 08:50 PM

Wow, talk about the ultimate backfire!

Thanks to everyone for all the compliments and thanks to TrafficGigilos for the free marketing!

I even posted a public apology and did everything I could to make sure they got at least something to hand out. Still they want to come to GFY and start shit. I don't understand people some times.

Rob · 08-12-2005, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Eros: I'm so sick and tired of the lame ass wanna be business people in this industry who couldn't organize taking a shit because they would order the toilet paper when it came time to flush.

Mind if I use that?

SureFire · 08-12-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Mind if I use that?

Did you read post 63?

Rob · 08-12-2005, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SureFire

I agree with you.

Just wondering why <insert any company's name> and think an apology on a bb and a refund is okay.

It seems that Acid tried and couldn't deliver. With all the volume printing that his shop does, I would think he would just send a nice email or call the customer saying the deadline is to tight for our shop...

JMO

My shop does do a lot of volume and it is very hard for me to stay on top of everything all the time. When this was brought to my attention by one of my customer service people on Monday night, when I designed the card for them. By the time I realized it wasn't going to be ready in time I had my customer service guy call Justin and let him know that we would refund 100% of his money AND send him the print ready art so they could print it at Kinkos. A fair deal if you ask me.

On top of all that, I did print them but was froced to recycle them since the job was cancelled. I actually lost money on this fiasco.

sternyduke · 08-12-2005, 09:08 PM

whatever. his rep is gold in my opinion.

SureFire · 08-12-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

My shop does do a lot of volume and it is very hard for me to stay on top of everything all the time. When this was brought to my attention by one of my customer service people on Monday night, when I designed the card for them. By the time I realized it wasn't going to be ready in time I had my customer service guy call Justin and let him know that we would refund 100% of his money AND send him the print ready art so they could print it at Kinkos. A fair deal if you ask me.

On top of all that, I did print them but was froced to recycle them since the job was cancelled. I actually lost money on this fiasco.

Sounds like you took a loss. But, no one asked you to recycle them showing no proof of ever printing the order. Guess you get a great deal in recycling than hiring CSRs.

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HighOnAcid

Mind if I use that?

Yeah man...sounds like a GFY mission statement.

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NichePay_PeteKT

Order many of times from them and NEVER had a problem, so post some proof of this FAKE drama your causing or SHUT UP, all i have seen you do is start Drama on the board today

your a fucking tool, shut up!

i havent been starting the drama, iv been dealing with drama started by others. he fucked up, he needs to face the music and admit he fucked up.

if he could not get ti done in time, why did he say he would? why didnt he just tell us no?

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tungsten

just shut the fuck up man, it said 3-5 days and it wasnt their fault you guys did it last minute, thats retarted to blame them for your procrastination

your retarded, lay down your crackpipe and read the thread.

we knew it was a rush job AND so did he, knowing that he could not get it done in time, why did he take the job? and then why did he lie about its status instead of telling us the truth and letting us move the order to a more reliable and expediant vendor?

furthermore, 3-5 days was within the window. i have worked in the print industry, lots of print shops work 7 days a week, an order on the 29th, had 6 days to be completed.

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

your a fucking tool, shut up!

i havent been starting the drama, iv been dealing with drama started by others. he fucked up, he needs to face the music and admit he fucked up.

if he could not get ti done in time, why did he say he would? why didnt he just tell us no?

Why don't you guys learn how to run a business.

If you can't organize ordering flyers in time for a convention that happens every year on or about the same time each year then you probably can't handle much else.

eroswebmaster · 08-12-2005, 10:04 PM

You know it's not like you didn't know it was coming you stupid idiots

MarkTiarra · 08-12-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

they lie to you and dont get the job done. 'nuff said.

oh yea, they also make up fake fedex tracking numbers.

They were good for us. Now is this slander or libel when it's in print?

tresisa · 08-12-2005, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

they lie to you and dont get the job done. 'nuff said.

oh yea, they also make up fake fedex tracking numbers.

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra

They were good for us. Now is this slander or libel when it's in print?

its neither when its true.

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

You know it's not like you didn't know it was coming you stupid idiots

shut up fat ass.

we knew it was coming, some things in life arent planned out months in advance. we were also ironging out all the details and everything.

lots of print shops can print with ZERO notice. this has nothing to do with procrastination, it has to do with being lied to and fucked around instead of being told the truth so we could use an alternate vendor.

read the whole fucking thread.

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eroswebmaster

Why don't you guys learn how to run a business.

If you can't organize ordering flyers in time for a convention that happens every year on or about the same time each year then you probably can't handle much else.

furthermore iv delt with your business, and had a bad experience there too. what you show in your portfolio is NOT what the asians you employ deliver, not by any far cry.

Jace · 08-12-2005, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

furthermore iv delt with your business, and had a bad experience there too. what you show in your portfolio is NOT what the asians you employ deliver, not by any far cry.

hahaha, you are just out for the throat tonight huh? 2 of the more respected people in the biz, and YOU had bad experiences with them? sounds like someone is an asshole to deal with, and it ain't eros or acid

Why · 08-12-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

hahaha, you are just out for the throat tonight huh? 2 of the more respected people in the biz, and YOU had bad experiences with them? sounds like someone is an asshole to deal with, and it ain't eros or acid

if you looked at his portfolio of galleries that had been designed by someone obviously pretty well aquainted with PS and instead you got shit from asians that hadnt used a computer 3 months ago, youd be pissed to.

this asshole comes up in here preaching about how to run a business yet his URL goes to nothing. he cant even pay his hosting bills? but he is here to teach us all how to run a business? come the fuck on.

and quite honestly they are the only two people i have had bad business with. and i never delt with acidflyers past calling them twice to try and sort things out with the flyers, they apologized and admitted that it was thier fault, so why are you still here babling?

Rob · 08-12-2005, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Why

lots of print shops can print with ZERO notice.

For full color flyers? Name me one, choder boy. I challenge you to show me one company that offers my prices that will offer my turnaround at ZERO NOTICE.

Here's

, buy yourself a fucking clue.

Rob · 08-12-2005, 10:55 PM

And calling out Eros now?!?!? Give me a fucking break! His reputation in this biz is flawless and he has something that you will never have; a stand up business model, a personality, a perfect reputation, and last but not least...a clue as to what he's doing!

Rob · 08-12-2005, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why

furthermore iv delt with your business, and had a bad experience there too. what you show in your portfolio is NOT what the asians you employ deliver, not by any far cry.

And now you're being racist! Will it ever end?!?!?

Jace · 08-12-2005, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why

if you looked at his portfolio of galleries that had been designed by someone obviously pretty well aquainted with PS and instead you got shit from asians that hadnt used a computer 3 months ago, youd be pissed to.

this asshole comes up in here preaching about how to run a business yet his URL goes to nothing. he cant even pay his hosting bills? but he is here to teach us all how to run a business? come the fuck on.

and quite honestly they are the only two people i have had bad business with. and i never delt with acidflyers past calling them twice to try and sort things out with the flyers, they apologized and admitted that it was thier fault, so why are you still here babling?

what url are you referring to? his sig and profile url work just fine...or are you referring to eroswebmaster.com which he doesn't advertise anymore? buy a clue man, you obviously don't seem to be able to find any around here
I have seen his work, it is top notch, post what you say is crappy, i wanna see it

eroswebmaster · 08-13-2005, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

what url are you referring to? his sig and profile url work just fine...or are you referring to eroswebmaster.com which he doesn't advertise anymore? buy a clue man, you obviously don't seem to be able to find any around here
I have seen his work, it is top notch, post what you say is crappy, i wanna see it

You're right. I pulled eroswebmaster.com down because I do not advertise it anymore.

#1 I now work for Evil Genius Cash
#2 I didn't feel like dealing with 2257 bullshit so I pulled it down AND
#3 It was not a representation of ONLY my work. I had a team of designers and project managers in all over 20 people, and in some cases they far exceeded my talents in others they were okay.
Once I shut everything down, I did not feel comfortable with still having other people's work in the portfolio, and instead of ripping it all down I just moved it.

I don't recall ever doing business with this Why guy, but in most if not all cases if there were issues I always fixed them, tried to work something out with someone.

At this point however I don't care...LOL.
That's not a part of me anymore, I do not do designs for anyone else other than a few former clients who threw a lot of business my way.

But nice try at deflection you little shit stain..and of course I'm talking to Why now.

eroswebmaster · 08-13-2005, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

shut up fat ass.

we knew it was coming, some things in life arent planned out months in advance. we were also ironging out all the details and everything.

lots of print shops can print with ZERO notice. this has nothing to do with procrastination, it has to do with being lied to and fucked around instead of being told the truth so we could use an alternate vendor.

read the whole fucking thread.

LOL wow I'm a fat ass? Man, did you come up with that all by yourself?

I have read both threads, and I have dealt with AcidFlyers before.

Every convention there is always a little bit of drama surrounding the printing and I guess this year it's your turn.

But 99.9% of the time it usually involves a clueless fuck like yourself waiting until the last minute to put in the order.

Throwing a party? Then by god by all means get the details planned out well before a few days before the event.

Jace · 08-13-2005, 01:17 AM

damn, i totally forgot...there is always one person at every convention that bitches about printing...HAHAHAHA

like clockwork

eroswebmaster · 08-13-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JaceXXX

damn, i totally forgot...there is always one person at every convention that bitches about printing...HAHAHAHA

like clockwork

You'd think people would learn.

It's not like there is no warning.
Shit Juicy was posting about the hotels booking up for January. But of course Why knowing the dates will wait until December 24th to put in his order

Tango · 08-13-2005, 01:22 AM

highonacid already posted and said he was sorry about the whole deal the day after the show ended

what happened to your bus? took a while to get back to a computer ;)

Repetitive Monkey · 08-13-2005, 01:56 AM

Eros,

If this was so obviously bound to fail, then why did the printer accept the job to begin with, and still receive nothing but praise from you? Shouldn't the printer be the judge of turn-around time, being in the printing business, familiar with the printing process?

Please try to use logic even if you are entering a debate purely out of bias for one side. I'm embarrassed for all parties concerned.

SBJ · 08-13-2005, 03:28 AM

Thanks for this thread!! I just placed a order with them for cards

beemk · 08-13-2005, 03:31 AM

so they fucked up his order and lied to him about it several times and its his fault? i think some people in this thread are a little biased.

Pete-KT · 08-13-2005, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Why

your a fucking tool, shut up!

i havent been starting the drama, iv been dealing with drama started by others. he fucked up, he needs to face the music and admit he fucked up.

if he could not get ti done in time, why did he say he would? why didnt he just tell us no?

Ima tool? WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU, seriously you come to the boards and start shit with anyone you can, HOA already made an apology and even gave you the design so that you can take it to kinkos and have it printed, IF your still gonna bitch about it then go somewhere else we don't wanna hear it, around here HOA does a lot fo us and we have never had a problem, maybe if you knew how to place your order in time for a show you TOO would of had your fliers on time, I will be using HOA for my fliers for the Florida show.

assmunk · 08-13-2005, 07:06 AM

OH REALLY?

inabon · 08-13-2005, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

someone has toooo much time on their hands LOL

loverboy · 08-13-2005, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by abyss_al

scary creature

GigoloJustin · 08-13-2005, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by brand0n

used them once, and will use them again for future printing

this why clown is a fuck stick.

im glad they fucked up your order, and im glad some asshole billed you for some bs bottle of booze.

karma bitch.

So you won't be to happy to hear that we didn't have to pay for the shit that was billed to our card?

You probably won't be to happy about the fact that our party turned out great? Everyone had a great time at our party. Sorry bro, maybe next time?

TheWylders · 08-13-2005, 08:32 AM

I used them once, paid extra to have them design it and gave them an idea of what I was looking for. I got the proof in the email on a very timesly basis, and I was a little dissapointed. Suggested a few changes and the next day I had exactly what I was looking for. Couple days later (much earlier than I expceted) I had my cards and was very pleased.I found them great to work with and I'll definitely use them again.
Only thing I can say is, don't wait till the last fucking minute next time!!

brand0n · 08-13-2005, 08:41 AM

lol thread backfire eh trafficbozos?

08-12-2005, 07:21 PM	#51
budz Disruptive Innovator Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Vegas Posts: 4,230	51...... __________________ C:\Code\ C:\Code\Run\

08-12-2005, 07:27 PM	#52
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	God I love the "business minded" people on GFY This thread shows what real amateurs there are in this industry compared to other industries..including some of the biggest names. Nothing, and I repeat nothing anyone seems to throw together works right. They all get a hair up their ass a few days before a show and expect it to fall together just the way they want it. Apparently TrafficGigolos yes what a professional sounding name for a company is another one of those. You order cards within days of a show....jeez you should have gone to a nearby print shop and paid for a rush job..one that you could have come back to within a few hours to okay the copy and get started..and POSSIBLY a word I stress have them done within the time frame you needed them done. But no...you like most other sponsors, programs etc SUCK AT THIS. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details Last edited by eroswebmaster; 08-12-2005 at 07:29 PM..

08-12-2005, 07:31 PM	#53
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	a group of fuckin morons __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

08-12-2005, 07:59 PM	#59
Shooting_Manic Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: NY Posts: 1,740	A full apology and refund was made on the 8th by highonacid. This kid just lives to bitch. Karma is right! May he never get an order on time again and may all his pizza show up cold. Highonacids full and humble apology. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...38#post7981038 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

08-12-2005, 08:50 PM	#64
Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,309	Wow, talk about the ultimate backfire! Thanks to everyone for all the compliments and thanks to TrafficGigilos for the free marketing! I even posted a public apology and did everything I could to make sure they got at least something to hand out. Still they want to come to GFY and start shit. I don't understand people some times. __________________

08-12-2005, 07:36 PM	#56
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	i really do swear, and I may be wrong, but I am pretty damn sure, that almost every single event that happens in atlanta is using acidflyers.com for their printing if it is like that in any other cities, i seriously doubt this thread will have much impact.... acidflyers.com rocks a big booty shaking dance of joy, and not just in the porn industry either!

08-12-2005, 08:10 PM	#62
El Duderino Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 835	a close friend of mine used them after i recommended them - they had fast service and quick shipping - oh yeah - they were dirt cheap too

08-12-2005, 09:08 PM	#68
sternyduke Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: scottsdale Posts: 1,082	whatever. his rep is gold in my opinion.

08-12-2005, 10:04 PM	#74
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08-12-2005, 10:55 PM	#83
Rob I'm a great bowler. Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Right Outside of Normal. Posts: 13,309	And calling out Eros now?!?!? Give me a fucking break! His reputation in this biz is flawless and he has something that you will never have; a stand up business model, a personality, a perfect reputation, and last but not least...a clue as to what he's doing! __________________

08-13-2005, 01:17 AM	#88
Jace FBOP Class Of 2013 Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: bumfuck, ky Posts: 35,562	damn, i totally forgot...there is always one person at every convention that bitches about printing...HAHAHAHA like clockwork

08-13-2005, 01:22 AM	#90
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08-13-2005, 01:56 AM	#91
Repetitive Monkey Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,505	Eros, If this was so obviously bound to fail, then why did the printer accept the job to begin with, and still receive nothing but praise from you? Shouldn't the printer be the judge of turn-around time, being in the printing business, familiar with the printing process? Please try to use logic even if you are entering a debate purely out of bias for one side. I'm embarrassed for all parties concerned.

08-13-2005, 03:28 AM	#92
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08-13-2005, 03:31 AM	#93
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08-13-2005, 08:32 AM	#99
TheWylders Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 623	I used them once, paid extra to have them design it and gave them an idea of what I was looking for. I got the proof in the email on a very timesly basis, and I was a little dissapointed. Suggested a few changes and the next day I had exactly what I was looking for. Couple days later (much earlier than I expceted) I had my cards and was very pleased.I found them great to work with and I'll definitely use them again. Only thing I can say is, don't wait till the last fucking minute next time!!

08-13-2005, 08:41 AM	#100
brand0n been very busy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: the queen city Posts: 26,983	lol thread backfire eh trafficbozos? __________________ want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.