im a noob: explain to me why css makes tables obsolete?

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  • mrthumbs
    salad tossing sig guy
    • Apr 2002
    • 11702

    #1

    im a noob: explain to me why css makes tables obsolete?

    Is it because you can determine the position of an item on the page?

    Are tables a thing of the past?

    I never use css.. im still stuck in the 90's and that scares me.
  • tresisa
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2005
    • 146

    #2
    Originally posted by mrthumbs
    Is it because you can determine the position of an item on the page?

    Are tables a thing of the past?

    I never use css.. im still stuck in the 90's and that scares me.
    its ok dude ..

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    • khs
      Confirmed User
      • Feb 2005
      • 1730

      #3
      learn css sooner than later, built into DW aswell
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      • tungsten
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Mar 2004
        • 10579

        #4
        css is a great tool, learn it
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        • mrthumbs
          salad tossing sig guy
          • Apr 2002
          • 11702

          #5
          Originally posted by tresisa
          its ok dude your penis is at least average ..
          Thankie :-)

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          • JD
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Sep 2003
            • 22651

            #6
            tables aren't obsolete. sometimes you need to use them to overcome bugs in the way IE uses css. i.e. the 3 pixel bug

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            • tresisa
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2005
              • 146

              #7
              Originally posted by mrthumbs
              Thankie :-)
              wuushuuuu nice edit dude.....

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              • galleryseek
                Confirmed User
                • Mar 2002
                • 8234

                #8
                Originally posted by SPeRMiNaToR
                tables aren't obsolete. sometimes you need to use them to overcome bugs in the way IE uses css. i.e. the 3 pixel bug
                nah not quite, there's always some sort of fix that'll do the trick.

                css has a number of advantages over tables for layouts. tables DO have a purpose, and that's just to show tabular data.

                - a lot less coding for the spiders to crawl
                - css with xhtml = standards compliant
                - better for things like screen readers

                and there are more, but these are the major ones.

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                • mrthumbs
                  salad tossing sig guy
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 11702

                  #9
                  http://www.decloak.com/Dev/CSSTables/CSS_Tables_01.aspx

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                  • Realpascal
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 2119

                    #10
                    I'll stop. Just a couple of more posts..
                    OMGWTFBBQ

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                    • xfalmp
                      Confirmed User
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 1474

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Realpascal
                      I'll stop. Just a couple of more posts..
                      You already started your crusade? Cool, let's see how much time you last...

                      Trust the "WOW" effect.

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                      • The Truth Hurts
                        Zph7YXfjMhg
                        • Nov 2002
                        • 15734

                        #12
                        you ever actually look at the css files on some of these sites...?
                        they can be fucking huge.

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                        • Rui
                          web
                          • Dec 2001
                          • 9533

                          #13
                          Check out this site, it should help you out getting started:
                          http://css.maxdesign.com.au/

                          cheers

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                          • Downtime
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2004
                            • 7320

                            #14
                            css and html in combination is the best route IMO; only using one of the two isn't a wise choice
                            #27024067

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                            • fris
                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 55703

                              #15
                              http://bluerobot.com/web/css/center1.html

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                              • Chio The Pirate
                                Confirmed User
                                • Oct 2002
                                • 946

                                #16
                                Originally posted by mrthumbs
                                Is it because you can determine the position of an item on the page?

                                Are tables a thing of the past?

                                I never use css.. im still stuck in the 90's and that scares me.
                                YARGH! Check this site for a good example of why css kicks ass.

                                Each page you see (new design) uses the exact same html.
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                                • galleryseek
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2002
                                  • 8234

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Downtime
                                  css and html in combination is the best route IMO; only using one of the two isn't a wise choice


                                  buddy, you can't use css without html. HTML is ALWAYS present.

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                                  • Mutt
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Sep 2002
                                    • 34431

                                    #18
                                    i've seen more fucked up pages using a CSS layout than I have pages using tables.

                                    tables are your friend.
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                                    • galleryseek
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Mar 2002
                                      • 8234

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Mutt
                                      i've seen more fucked up pages using a CSS layout than I have pages using tables.

                                      tables are your friend.
                                      yeah that's because the newbies who tried dev'ing the css didn't know what they were doing.

                                      tables are the enemy of layouts.
                                      css is your friend.

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                                      • Machete_
                                        WINNING!
                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 14579

                                        #20
                                        tables are good, easy and take up a a HELL of a lot less code, if you are spitting our 20 pages of reports

                                        table will be arround

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